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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 06:58 PM
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Bill Shipp: Zell may be running a scam on the GOP
(tinfoil hat material, to be sure, but worth a read)

http://onlineathens.com/stories/091204/opi_20040912030....

Has Zell Miller scammed the Republican Party and helped embattled Southern Democrats hang on to their positions of power?

(snip)

While Republicans cheered and egged him on at their national convention, Miller's firebrand speech made it OK for white Southerners to continue to run and vote as state and local Democrats. Former President Jimmy Carter, once Miller's mentor and benefactor, helped the Georgia senator pull off what may turn out to be a gigantic con.

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Carter's letter, in effect, validated Miller as a renegade Democrat, but a Democrat nevertheless. While Carter is admired across America, the former president remains a prophet without honor in parts of Georgia. To be at odds with Carter is often a badge of respect and a sign of political trust.

(snip)

Disclaiming affection for the national party is nothing new for Georgia Democrats, even when they controlled state government as a one-party power. Party activists often referred to themselves as "Sam Nunn Democrats" or "Dick Russell Democrats" or even "Lester Maddox Democrats" to make clear that they were a breed apart from their national cousins. Miller's angry act in New York allows them to refer to themselves as Zell Miller Democrats and remain loyal partisans on the state and local levels.

Now we may know why Miller's name was left off the guest list to celebrate in the president's box after his speech. At least one smart Republican must have figured out what he was up to.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:00 PM
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1. Never mind, no remark I can think of comes close to what this article
deserves.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:03 PM
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2. Yeah
I think its bullshit. Sorry.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:05 PM
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3. Puh Leeze!!!!
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 07:07 PM by charlyvi
Zell is the devil, that's all. He's pissed at dems and is too stupid to know he was used. Or too far down the bowl to care.

Edit: Ooops. This post was meant to reply to original message. Sorry
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:09 PM
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4. Got it
hard to miss it from your context

:)
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:11 PM
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5. Should have made it clearer -
I think Shipp has his tinfoil hat securely in place, and is trying to put lipstick on the pig that is Zell's NRC speech. Sorry if I came across as if I'm trying to defend Zell. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:19 PM
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8. Sorry mac56....
Didn't mean to snap at you. Zell makes my BLOOD boil is all..
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:20 PM
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9. Actually
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 07:21 PM by are_we_united_yet
I was just rendering my opinion. Many DU'ers put things up for the benefit of information sharing of which I appreciate. Given your number of posts, I find it hard to believe you would defend that dork so I definitely don't take it that way.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:12 PM
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6. Keep it Simple. This theory isn't simple, therefore I doubt it's true (nt)
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:21 PM
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10. Whoa....
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 07:21 PM by charlyvi
Ockham's razor! Haven't thought about that since Philosophy 101.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:18 PM
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7. Yea, I saw him say that on the Ga. Gang this morning.
Shipp is an idiot! He very seldon makes any sense on that show, and I only read his column once!

I've heard of creative thinking before, but this tale is REALLY out there!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 07:27 PM
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11. According to Mike Malloy...
it is common knowledge in Georgia that Zell has early Alzheimer's disease and the Pukes used him. Apparently his (mother or father - sorry) had Alzheimer's. Go figure. After I heard this on the great Mike Malloy show, I have ambiguous feelings about Zig-Zag Zell.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 06:46 PM
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12. I WISH the Democratic leadership around here were that clever.
I have seen no evidence to support it though.
:mad:
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