***** AFTER THE DEBATE: HELP SPREAD THE KERRY MESSAGE *****

[EarlG]

Note: this thread will be continuously updated as we get specific information on links to polls, feedback pages, etc.

IF YOU HAVE LINKS TO NEW POLLS, POST THEM IN THIS THREAD. They will be added to the master list.

++ ONLINE POLLS ++

ABC30 Fresno: http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn

Allentown PA Morning Call: http://www.mcall.com

American Research Group: http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/debatei

AOL News: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20040930112609990001

Asheville Citizen-Times: http://www.citizen-times.com (Right column)

Austin American Statesman: http://www.statesman.com/news/content/shared/news/politics/election04.html

BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3703756.stm

Boston Globe: http://www.boston.com (Look for "SURVEY: Who did better in the debate?")

Campaigns and Elections: http://www.campaignline.com/poll/index.cfm?navid=54

Channel 10 Providence: http://www.turnto10.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

CNBC: http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Promos/P95958.asp

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004

CNN Pundit Scorecard: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/debates/press.pundits

Daytona News-Journal: http://www.news-journalonline.com

Daily Iberian: http://www.iberianet.com

Denver Channel: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

Detroit News: http://info.detnews.com/feedback/lettersindex.cfm?topic=Rate_the_debate&forum=dnletters

Hampton Roads: http://home.hamptonroads.com/poll/question.cfm?poll=3387

Houston Chronicle: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2824115

KATC3 Lafayette: http://www.katc.com

Kansas City Channel: http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

KDBC El Paso: http://www.kdbc.com (left column)

KDKA Pittsburgh: http://kdka.com/?can_view=275003241

KIRO7 Seattle: http://www.kirotv.com/index.html

KIRO 710: http://710kiro.com

KOTV Tulsa: http://www.kotv.com/main/home/main.asp (Right column "Hotbutton")

KSDK St. Louis: http://www.ksdk.com/includes/poll.aspx

KYW Philadephia: http://www.kyw.com

Lafayette Daily Advertiser: http://www.acadiananow.com

LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-na-debate1oct01,1,6123688.story?coll=la-home-headlines&vote14465898=1

Milwaukee Channel: http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who won the Debate?")

Minnesota Star Tribune: http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5008889.html

MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733

MSNBC Horserace: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028629

Ms. Magazine: http://www.msmagazine.com/debate_poll.asp

My San Antonio: http://www.mysanantonio.com (Halfway down on left "Cast your vote")

NBC10 Philadelphia: http://www.nbc10.com/news/3692935/detail.html

NBC25 Hagerstown MD: http://nbc25.com/webpoll.asp

NBC4 Washington DC: http://www.nbc4.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who won the Debate?")

NBC5 Cincinnati: http://www.channelcincinnati.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

NBC5 Dallas-Fort Worth: http://www.nbc5i.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

NBC6 South Florida: http://www.nbc6.net/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

New Orleans Channel: http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

News Central: http://www.newscentral.tv

Newsday: http://www.newsday.com (Look for "Poll: Rate the candidates")

NewsNet5 Cleveland: http://www.newsnet5.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

Orlando Sentinel: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/elections/orl-bk-presdebate100104a,1,5796134.story?coll=orl-home-specialbreaking

PBS: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/debates/ballot.html

Philly.com: http://www.nbc10.com/news/3692935/detail.html

Pittsburgh Channel: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/index.html

Polling Point: http://209.128.109.235/survey/s.phtml?sn=72&cid=157&rid=634974 (Long)

Rapid City Journal: http://www.rapidcityjournal.com (left column)

Sioux Falls Argus Leader: http://www.argusleader.com

Sun-Sentinel: http://www.sun-sentinel.com (right column)

Tampa Bay 10 News: http://www.tampabays10.com

Time: http://www.time.com/time (Right side)

Wall St. Journal: http://discussions.wsj.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=wsjvoices&nav=messages&msg=3298

WESH2 Orlando: http://www.wesh.com/politics/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

WFMY Greensboro NC: http://www.wfmy.com/news/poll/default.aspx

WFTV9 Orlando: http://www.wftv.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

WGAL Harrisburg PA: http://www.thewgalchannel.com/index.html (Look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?")

WHOTV Des Moines: http://whotv.com (Left side of page)

Wilmington DE News Journal: http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal

Winston-Salem Journal: http://www.journalnow.com (Left column)

WKRC Cincinnati: http://www.wkrc.com

WRAL Raleigh-Durham: http://www.wral.com/index.html

WSB 750 Atlanta: http://wsbradio.com

WTRF West Virginia: http://www.wtrf.com

WXYZ Detroit: http://www.detnow.com/wxyz/poll/0,2132,WXYZ_15924_54286,00.html

++ TALKING POINTS ++

Kerry’s Debate Performance

-> America saw John Kerry as our next President tonight.

-> Kerry showed strength, conviction and steady command of the facts.

-> Kerry left no doubt he can lead the fight to hunt and kill the terrorists.

-> Kerry offered hope for a fresh start in Iraq so we can finish the job. Kerry has specific plans: Bush had shallow promises.

Bush’s Debate Performance

-> Bush had a record of failure to defend, and he failed to defend it.

-> Bush refused to take responsibility for his go it alone rush to war. He seemed defensive, annoyed and arrogant.

-> Bush had no plan, no clue for ending the chaos; he’s out of touch with reality.

-> Bush can’t fix the mess in Iraq because he pretends things are fine. Pretending is no substitute for planning.


++ CONTACT THE MEDIA IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE DEBATE ++

CNN

Contact Larry King Live (follows debate at 11pm ET):
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12

Contact NewsNight with Aaron Brown (follows Larry King at midnight ET):
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?13

CNN.com Feedback:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/dotcom

CNN TV Feedback:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv

Fox News

Contact Hannity & Colmes (follows debate at 11pm ET)
[email protected]
[email protected]

Contact On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (follows Hannity & Colmes at midnight ET):
[email protected]

Feedback:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html

Phone:
1-888-369-4762

MSNBC

Contact Hardball with Chris Matthews (follows debate at 10:30pm ET):
[email protected]

Feedback:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3303518

ABC

News Feedback:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/service/Help/abcmail_news.html

CBS

News Feedback:
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml

C-SPAN

Kerry Supporters Phone Number: 202-737-0002

++ MEDIA TOOLS ++

Democratic Underground Local Media Blaster
Democratic Underground National Media List
DNC Media Blaster
DNC Local Media Finder

++ CALL THESE UPCOMING LIBERAL RADIO SHOWS ++

Air America Radio, 24 Hrs
1-866-303-2270

THURSDAY

10pm-1am ET
Mike Malloy | 1-866-303-2270 | [email protected]

10apm-1am ET
Alan Colmes | 1-212-301-5900 | [email protected]

11pm-2am ET
Peter Werbe | 1-313-298-9742 | [email protected]

FRIDAY

12am ET
The Other Side | 1-713-526-5738 | [email protected]

1am-4am ET
Bernie Ward | 1-415-808-0810 | [email protected]

1am-4am ET
Mike Webb | 1-877-710-5476 | [email protected]

4am-8am ET
Ray Taliaferro | 1-415-808-0810 | [email protected]

10am-2pm ET
Neil Rogers | 1-877-785-6345

12pm-3pm ET
Doug Basham | 1-866-820-5528 | [email protected]

12pm-3pm ET
Al Franken 1-866-303-2270

1pm-3pm ET
Lynn Samuels | 1-866-997-4748 | [email protected]

3pm-6pm
Ed Shultz | 1-877-934-6833 | [email protected]

3pm-7pm ET
Randi Rhodes 1-866-303-2270

7pm-10pm ET
Bev Smith | 1-412-325-4197

SATURDAY

6am-9am ET
Doug Stephan | 1-800-510-8255 | [email protected]

3pm-6pm ET
Guy James | 1-888-602-7500 | [email protected]

SUNDAY

12pm-1pm
Democratic Talk Radio | 1-931-433-3546 | [email protected]

7pm-8pm ET
Mark Levine | 1-877-577-2667 | [email protected]

[EarlG]

1. Spreading the message

This is a more comprehensive media list that we put together based on the DNC mailing which was sent out earlier today. If you have anything to add to this list, or spot any corrections, post in this thread and we will periodically update it throughout the night.

[WiseMen]

51. Bush FLOPPED... Again. And even his spinners CAN'T FLIP THAT!

[ClassWarrior]

139. Bush is just a flop (see below)...

23.

[cheezus]

141. CNN pundit scorecard

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/debates/press.pundits/

[sisenor]

150. A COUNTRY OF BUMBLING IDIOTS?

I think not. Republican spinners are saying BUSH's mediocre performance "speaks to the average person, they can relate to how he talks." Oh yeah? We may have our share of backward people in this country, but I give most Americans a little more credit than that. AS KERRY SAYS: WE CAN DO BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tigereye]

152. the irony was that * actually used more than 2 syllable words

I think I actually heard him utter the word "vociferously", and correctly. That was really strange. He did look pissed though and a little confused, at least at first.

[tmooses]

80. Here's my letter to the editor of as many papers I can send it to

Dear Editor,

The first Presidential debate was an amazing expose of the differences between the two candidates. I believe for once in this campaign we were able to view, not through the prism of 30 second sound bites, but through face to face (or lectern to lectern) comparisons on how the candidates view foreign affairs. It was most revealing.
George Bush, looking for the most part like a toad who had just swallowed a lemon, tirelessly repeating the same trite answers in a sort of Karlrovian response mantra that started to wear thin pretty quickly. It became more and more strikingly obvious as John Kerry's responded to questions directly and intelligently.Meanwhile, Bush's answers somehow left you scratching your head and trying to figure out which question this guy was actually answering.
As the debate wore on, Kerry seemed to be more on point while Bush started drifting further from the subject on hand
If Bush was trying to make Kerry indecisive, he instead made himself look confused as he was trying to remember his rehearsal talking points and repeated them ad nauseum.His usual tactic of reframing questions to his advantage became painfully obvious. The President looked decidedly unpresidential and Kerry looked like he was in control of the facts.
The ultimate insult for Bush was at the end of the debate when Jim Lehrer had to help Bush articulate his views on the question of nuclear proliferation.
Any doubts I had on who to vote for were dismissed tonight-and it won't be for the incumbent with the "mexed missages".

[dschlomer]

84. Debate

Just checked the MSNBC polling website (of course I voted for
Kerry), but the results showed Kerry 90+% vs Bush >10%.  I
can only hope that this is a valid poll.  Having watched the
debate, Kerry came across by far the most presidential and
most informed candidate.

[yardwork]

151. ".....toad who had just swallowed a lemon!"

That's great!!!

[Pale_Rider]

122. And to our Freepers friends reading this post ...

:kick:

[SoCalDemocrat]

143. New CNN Press Pundits A-F grading poll

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/debates/press.pundits

I gave Bush an F in both categories, and Kerry an A+. Hey that's how I saw it!

[SoCalDemocrat]

164. Bush got horse whipped last night!

Here is another talking point:

"Bush got horse whipped by Kerry in the Debates!"

[papau]

2. Boilerplate storyline- will media use GOP CW, or a liberal one like below?

Compare this Liberal pre-Debate "boilerplate" to the one the AP had -

does anyone think our liberal press will use something like this rather than the AP's GOP rewrite/spin of "conventional wisdom"?


One of the ways Kerry energized his base was with anti-Iraq war voice that avoided nuance in favor of a few clear, bumper sticker, crisp messages.

Kerry's likability gap shrunk as the joint appearance of two affable candidates showed there was not a major difference in likability.

Kerry managed to strike the right tone as he put Bush on the defensive on the war, health care, the economy, etc. without appearing to be bullying a President that Americans seem to like.

But this was a night for Foreign policy, and Kerry's connecting Iraq spinning out of control with how Bush squandered an opportunity to pursue Osama bin Laden with full global support by alienating long-time US allies and dissipating US troop strength was met by Bush's assertions that Iraq is not spinning out of control and that Kerry is a cut and run defeatist.

Bush's question of just what would Kerry do differently, and how can we trust him to actually do what he says was met by Kerry's "Just because Bush asserts something is true does not make it true" and "Refusing to change course in the face of disaster is not a character trait America needs in a leader".



AP Boiler Plate release at 1 pm by the AP is below- The links below worked until 5pm (ABC) and 7 pm (Boston Globe) LOL


Boston Globe posted before 2 pm and it is now after 5pm! LOL And ABC just took it off their site (5pm).

EDIT: GLOBE took it off Boston.com at 7 pm.


http://www.boston.com/dailynews/274/politics/Bush_and_K ...

Bush and Kerry meet in first of three debates with Kerry needing to make up ground
By Terence Hunt, Associated Press, 9/30/2004 13:47

CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush and challenger John Kerry got their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq war and the bloody aftermath.

The 90-minute encounter was particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.

Bush was expected to confront questions about leading the nation into war on the still-unproven premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He also has faced accusations that he lacked a strategy to deal with the violence and chaos that have left more than 1,000 Americans dead and that the Iraq war has diverted U.S. attention from al-Qaida and other terrorists.

With a record of four years in office to defend, Bush had a debate strategy of being optimistic about Iraq but acknowledging that times were tough. His stance is that Americans know he is a decisive leader even if they don't always agree with his decisions and that Kerry has taken conflicting positions on Iraq and can't be trusted to lead the nation. <snip>

On the Net:

Transcript will be available at: http://wid.ap.org/transcripts/debates/04prez.html

[Lefty48197]

11. DO NOT RELAX BECAUSE KERRY IS KICKING BUTT TONIGHT!

The Republicans will spin the hell out of this event. The people that didn't see or hear it will think Bush clobbered Kerry based on what they'll hear from the right wing spin machine.
DO YOUR PART AND CONTACT THE MEDIA AND GIVE THEM YOUR IMPRESSION AFTER THE DEBATE!.
Please pardon my yelling.

[Cha]

3. Will do with Pleasure!

:kick:

[cheshire]

4. Way to lead. Du monitors rock

[DemBones DemBones]

5. Don't forget C-SPAN!!! Many of us will be watching on C-SPAN

and I'm sure they'll do call-ins afterwards. It's hard to get through on their lines on Washington Journal every morning but DUers have often managed.

I can post the telephone numbers for tonight's show when they give them. I'm watching the pre-debate show on C-SPAN but the numbers they used on it may be different from what they'll use later. Right now they're showing the commission members speaking to the audience before the debate.

Donna Shalala now speaking. It's nearly showtime, folks!

C-SPAN will show a split screen for the entire debate. (Hope that doesn't mean we miss the handshake, LOL!)

[EarlG]

6. Yes, please post them

I'll add them to the list :thumbsup:

[MADem]

7. A suggested tactic

...from a new member!

Position yourself, in any email replies or telephoned commentaries, as a regular viewer of the outlet to whom you are directing your comments. It greatly increases the likelihood that your position will be considered or read on the air. A compliment to the presenters in the text also warms the cockles of their media whore hearts!

Fingers crossed, I am confident...lift off in ten minutes!

[EarlG]

8. Excellent ideas

Thanks.

[Nicholas_J]

9. Well today i was asked by the members of my local Democratic Party's

Leadership (what is it called again, the executive comittee, anyway, they are elected
party officials) to be in charge of my polling district and run all of the programs to
contact all of the registered democrats in the area). Arranging to get people rides to
vote, and on election day co-ordinate telephone calls to people who have not voted
as we get updated voting lists during the day. They also want me to try to clarify
Kerry's position and one of the party executives recommended me to the democratic
mayor of the area as being very capable of explaining Kerry's positions in a simple
manner and that I have come up with a number of 30 second sound bites that
would be good to use with security moms etc (things like, "Do you want to feel
secure, or do you want to BE secure" .

I need a little encouragement here and I dont feel up to the task as I think that all they
find capable is the kind of arguing skills I have displayed on DU, which I think have been
more abrasive than persusive. I dont quite know if I am a good choice, but I have to give
an answer tomorrow night. I certainly will lend my abilities doing research for them for
speeches and telephone scripts. I will also do all the telephone banking that they want
but I dont know if I have any sort of leadership skills that being in charge of thr efforts for an entire polling district would take.

Any suggestions?

[Spiffarino]

110. Two things

First, it doesn't take argumentation skills to be persuasive. Do you believe John Kerry is the best person for the job? Tell them why you do. An honest answer that comes from the heart will be far more persuasive than a series of pat answers.

Look at Bush v. Kerry tonight. Kerry had control of his facts; Bush had memorized lines and Kerry trounced him.

Second, leadership comes from strong core values. You obviously have them already or you wouldn't be here worrying about it. Just get out there and do it.

Say what you are feeling in your heart one time, then move on to the next thing. Don't waste time repeating yourself because your audience will get it the first time. Above all, be your charming, smart, likeable self.

[Nicholas_J]

121. Thanks

Thats what the people on the exec comittee said. that I seemed to feel very strongly about Kerry as a leader and as an honest person, and that I had a very good ability to condense what Kerry means, why he has been consistant on the war in Iraq and the War on terrorism since the very beginning, even before the Iraq resolution was passed, I was able to explain both his op-ed piece in the times and the speech before the CRF in January 2003 in such very short, but precise terms that a non politician could really understand and accept..

Well I will give it a shot.

Thanks for the encouragement.

[crispini]

133. To Nicholas_J

Wait til tomorrow and start another thread with your question. It's a good substantive question but IMO it's not gonna get a lot of attention tonight. :)

[curse10]

10. poll!!!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749/

[hyphenate]

12. For AOL users

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20040930112609990001

They've got Bushie at 60% winning, 40% on Kerry. Freepers!

[Amich]

75. AOL also has a question on who will keep us safer

Can you guess who is winning on keeping America safer and who is better able to handle Iraq. I would say it is getting freeped.

[Spiffarino]

113. Not any more! 53-47 Kerry! n/t

[xultar]

13. For easy Cut and Paste

[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],

[AgadorSparticus]

161. KERRY WINS DEBATE. BUSH LOSES ELECTION.

That is my subject heading that I sent out all morning. Xultar, thanks for the easy cut and paste listing. It really saved me alot of time. Here's is my letter:


Last night’s Presidential Debate was a stunning defeat for the Bush/Cheney campaign. Kerry did a superb job getting his message across while Bush muddled around in repetitive rhetoric.

Kerry proved to be every bit the veteran statesman. He was cool, calm, composed, and eloquent. He presented facts and he presented his plans. He spoke with substance and integrity.

Bush, on the other hand, was impatient, defensive, and angry. All Bush could do was hem and haw over the same tiring set phrases. He has no clear plan to get out of Iraq. He could not answer some questions and got testy or took excessively long pauses in his speech. And this is supposed to be his forte?? This is not a video game. People are getting killed every day and Bush gives us superficial rhetoric at a time when the American people deserve honesty and substance.

I am simply stunned. President Bush is not just a bad debater. He is a bad leader who lacks substance. He couldn’t run away from Kerry fast enough after the initial handshake and he ran off the stage after the debate. It would be amusing if it weren’t so tragic. Bush lost the election last night.

Sincerely,

[Skinner]

14. I just added talking points

Kerry’s Debate Performance

-> America saw John Kerry as our next President tonight.

-> Kerry showed strength, conviction and steady command of the facts.

-> Kerry left no doubt he can lead the fight to hunt and kill the terrorists.

-> Kerry offered hope for a fresh start in Iraq so we can finish the job. Kerry has specific plans: Bush had shallow promises.

Bush’s Debate Performance

-> Bush had a record of failure to defend, and he failed to defend it.

-> Bush refused to take responsibility for his go it alone rush to war. He seemed defensive, annoyed and arrogant.

-> Bush had no plan, no clue for ending the chaos; he’s out of touch with reality.

-> Bush can’t fix the mess in Iraq because he pretends things are fine. Pretending is no substitute for planning.

[rocktivity]

15. Much as I wanted to be posting here when the debate started

I had to work late, and then I had to update my web site when I got home. But since I now have everything off my plate, I can hereby report for duty to do battle in the post-debate spin war!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Skinner]

16. TIME TO GO TO WORK!

FIND THOSE ONLINE POLLS AND REPORT BACK HERE!

[CitizenRob]

17. Two talking points.

George Bush thinks defending America is hard work! Why is he on so many vacations!!??


America's enemies are smarter than Bush. That puts every American in danger.

[Jasper 91]

58. Precisely

I lost count the amount of times he repeated that mantra . How he kept his face straight saying that , when he is the most bone-idle President ever is beyond me .

Kerry rocked .:party:

[Cheswick2.0]

18. CNN POLL

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/

[Skinner]

20. Excellent. I added it to the list above.

Thanks.

[NYC Liberal]

24. 92% Kerry!

:bounce:

Keep at it!

[fishwax]

45. Uh Oh, now he's slipped to 91%

Bush is closing the gap ... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :evilgrin: :D

[ochazuke]

32. Kerry 92% Bush 7% 10:39 EDT

[Clinton Crusader]

19. KICK!

:kick:

[NMDemDist2]

21. hit that AOL poll, kerry's behind n/t

[ochazuke]

38. Done, but look at this:

Kerry's ahead in changing minds while still losing the 'who won' question.

Who won?

Bush 53, Kerry 47

Did it change your mind?

No, 73%
Yes, will vote Kerry: 16%
Yes, will vote Bush: 11%

Also consider that AOL has a rural bias because the countryside is more dial-up than the cities and suburbs.

[xultar]

22. More Press Emails....

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[Tsiyu]

48. This was as I so humbly predicted

As my daughter just announced: "That was so incredibly vindicating."

Kerry showed his true leadership, intelligence and grasp of the issues. Chimpy Bunnypants showed us a virtual plethora of new and uncomfortable facial expressions and obtuse word combinations.

I am so proud of John Kerry. He never backed down, but he was a gentleman, and he never interrupted or got "testy' as * did during numerous responses.

Bunnypants appeared to have just sucked on a real SOUR pickle.

The spin is crap, so don't listen to it. Any sane person knows who aced this one.

CONGRATULATIONS PRESIDENT KERRY!

[madmax]

23. kick n/t

[Tummler]

25. American Research Group (ARG) poll

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/debatei/

[Skinner]

26. I added msnbc.

C'MON PEOPLE -- LET'S HIT THESE POLLS!

[acmavm]

27. CNN 9:37 CST

Who do you think won the debate?

George W. Bush 7%

John Kerry 92%

Neither, it was a draw 1%

[Robert Oak]

28. MSNBC poll

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/

[RoyGBiv]

KICK AOL Poll needs attention now n/t

[OKNancy]

65. 50/50

at 10:15 central

[RoyGBiv]

70. WooHoo!!!!

Much better than it was when I first ran across it.

[OKNancy]

52/48 for Kerry at 10:30

Hi!! Fellow Okie. It's a great night to be a Democrat.

[RoyGBiv]

87. Wonderful night...

The elderly lady who lives upstairs, and who almost never leaves her apartment, came down and knocked on my door.

"Our boy did great tonight, didn't he?"

We shared a glass of wine, and she went home to bed, brightly smiling.

A very good night.

[flamingyouth]

29. kick

:kick:

[acmavm]

MSNBC 9:38 CST

Who won the debate? * 25849 responses


Pres. Bush
31% Sen. Kerry
69%

[acmavm]

MSNBC 9:38 CST

Who won the debate? * 25849 responses


Pres. Bush
31%
Sen. Kerry
69%

[acmavm]

30. MSNBC 9:38 CST

Who won the debate? * 25849 responses


Pres. Bush
31% Sen. Kerry
69%

[theHandpuppet]

31. More votes needed NOW in the AOL poll!

See link in original post.

[medeak]

37. it was closed to me?

in just a few minutes?

[ochazuke]

43. Kerry Gaining!!!

It's now 50-50. Widening lead in mind-change Q 17 to 10%

[LiberalManiacfromOC]

33. Thanks for the info!

Thanks DU admins!

[NMDemDist2]

34. C-span Kerry number 202 737 0002

[Gman]

35. DO NOT use the links from the DNC email

it goes through the democrats.org server on a redirect and the democrats.org server is timing out. Go to these sites directly from the DU links above.

[Cheswick2.0]

36. email Hardblogger

on the MSNBC blog

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/

[Cheswick2.0]

39. hardball poll

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/

[bling bling]

111. Poll closed: Kerry 70% Bush 30%!!!

[gitchel]

40. Scroll to the bottom of AOL Poll

Remember to scroll down to the bottom of the AOL poll. There are more questions to vote on.

[fishwax]

41. Thank you for this thread!

Way to go John Kerry!

:D

[gitchel]

42. Scroll down to the bottom of the AOL poll

Remember to scroll down to the bottom of the AOL poll. There are more questions to vote on.

[Stevious]

52. Local Poll

http://nbc25.com/webpoll.asp

[Beartracks]

120. AOL -- Vote: Who Would Keep Us Safer?

If you visit the AOL poll on who won the debate (http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20040930112609990001#polls), don't forget to also voice your opinion at the link right next to it: "Vote: Who Would Keep Us Safer?" You can also get to those questions by simply scrolling down the page.
I know someone else already mentioned this, but I wanted to point it out again, since Kerry is leading in the "Who Won" poll, but trailing in each of the "Who would keep us safer" questions -- which, when you think about it, doesn't make sense mathematically. :)

[wryter2000]

44. Voted

4 years ago, I felt helpless. Thank you DU for giving me a voice.

[NVMojo]

53. thank you DU, all of you!

so good to not feel so alone like a year ago. Thanks!!!

JOHN KERRY RULES AND KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111


:kick:

[Baja Margie]

46. Thanks,

Wow, Kerry kicked ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Baja Margie]

47. Thanks,

Wow, Kerry kicked ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Baja Margie]

49. Thanks,

Wow, Kerry kicked ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leeroysphitz]

50. I can't WAIT

to hear howard stern DESTROY Bush's "performance" tomorrow...
This was a clear win.

[Aunt Anti-bush]

54. More Polls

ABC News: http://www.abcnews.com/
CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com/
Faux News: http://www.foxnews.com/
USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/

Edit: There are no polls listed yet at any of these ones. Sorry for my mistake...

[Skinner]

57. I don't see any polls on those pages.

:shrug:

[Aunt Anti-bush]

66. You're right.

I am so sorry. I got an email from Move on that said there were polls there, so I posted them and later went to the sites. Sorry.

[zaj]

55. Look for state polls to DU here...

Ohio – News Papers
http://www.enquirer.com /
http://www.cincypost.com /
http://www.plaindealer.com /
http://www.dispatch.com /
http://www.daytondailynews.com /

Florida – News Papers
http://www.news-journalonline.com /
http://jacksonville.com /
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald /
http://www.orlandosentinel.com /
http://www.sptimes.com /
http://www.sun-sentinel.com /
http://tampatrib.com /

ABC
• Cincinnati: WCPO (Ch. 9) http://www.wcpo.com /
• Cleveland: WEWS (Ch. 5) http://www.newsnet5.com/index.html
• Columbus: WSYX (Ch. 6) http://www.wsyx6.com /
• Dayton: WDTN (Ch. 2) http://www.wdtn.com /
• Toledo: WTVG (Ch. 13) http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg /
• Youngstown: WYTV (Ch. 33) http://www.wytv.com /

CBS
• Cincinnati: WKRC (Ch. 12) http://www.wkrc.com /
• Cleveland: WOIO (Ch. 19) http://www.woio.com /
• Columbus: WBNS (Ch. 10) http://www.wbns10tv.com /
• Dayton: WHIO (Ch. 7) http://www.whiotv.com/index.html
• Toledo: WTOL (Ch. 11) http://www.wtol.com /
• Youngstown: WKBN (Ch. 27) http://www.wkbn.com /

Faux
• Cincinnati: WXIX (Ch. 19) http://www.fox19.com /
• Youngstown: WYFX (Ch. 17 & 62) http://www.wkbn.com /

NBC
• Cincinnati: WLWT (Ch. 5) http://www.channelcincinnati.com/index.html
• Cleveland: WKYC (Ch. 3) http://www.wkyc.com /
• Columbus: WCMH (Ch. 4) http://www.nbc4i.com/index.html
• Dayton: WKEF (Ch. 22) http://www.wkef22.com/dayton_oh /
• Toledo: WNWO (Ch. 24) http://www.nbc24.com /
• Youngstown: WFMJ (Ch. 21) http://www.wfmj.com /

TV stations by state
http://newslink.org/stattele.html

News Papers - Most linked to by state!!!!
http://newslink.org/topstate.html

Newspapers By State
http://newslink.org/statnews.html

New Papers - Major Metros
http://newslink.org/metnews.html

News Papers - Dailies
http://newslink.org/daynews.html

Arizona
http://www.dailystar.com
http://www.azrepublic.com
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com

[Stevious]

56. Local Poll

http://nbc25.com/webpoll.asp

[Name removed]

71. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[stubertmcfly]

59. another poll

http://www.newscentral.tv/

[DeepModem Mom]

60. I'm workin' it -- thanks, EarlG!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

61. sinclair broadcasting(local tv chain-banned nightline reading of the dead)

http://www.newscentral.tv/

[Beetwasher]

62. WHY WAS BUSH SO HOSTILE!!!!???

It was quite frightening! I totally expected him to leap across the podium and throttle Lehrer for daring to question him!

He said he wanted to leash his own daughters!!!

[Kierkegaard]

63. Another poll to bang on!

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Promos/P95958.asp

[ochazuke]

64. DU this Missouri poll

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/index.html

Look for the link near debate story.

[DesEtoiles]

67. I'm already getting negative email back from disappointed Bushies

they are pissed

[NVMojo]

73. watch out for viruses from weird email addresses

I got them the other day when I hit the news list over Kerry's true statement on Iraq.

[UCLA Dem]

68. I noticed NBC and PBS were both missing from the list. I think these

should be included as well.

[Skinner]

72. Please find the info, post it here, and I'll gladly add it.

:thumbsup:

[UCLA Dem]

85. Here you go: Emails for NBC and PBS

NBC nightly news: [email protected]

PBS: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/letters.html

[zuzu98]

69. Freepers are on to Ms. Magazine poll...

http://www.msmagazine.com/debate_poll.asp

[bling bling]

114. This Poll Also Closed: Kerry 56%, Bush 44%

n/t

[mistertrickster]

74. FReepers gnashing teeth over on-line polls.

Here's a sample--

To: jcb8199
Forget these polls, the DUmmies are all over them already & do they really matter? I gave up freeping them.

2 posted on 09/30/2004 7:53:15 PM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >

*******

And if there was any doubt that FReeps sit there and delete their cookie files so they can vote again and again, here it is in black and white:

To: jcb8199
I voted a couple of dozen times on the msnbc poll, but I can only clear cookies manually and re-do the pages just so quick.... against 120,000 votes, that requires a robot.

8 posted on 09/30/2004 7:57:49 PM PDT by alancarp

(then later)

To: slatimer
I had that Iowa poll up to 65-35% -- then all of a sudden, the DU "discovered" it.... in 2 minutes, it was back to 50-50 and heading down.

15 posted on 09/30/2004 8:08:26 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies >

[AgadorSparticus]

163. hey freepers, thanks for the tip on clearing out my cookies file. i'll be

sure to do that. :evilgrin:

[UCLA Dem]

76. Just sent the whole round of emails! Go Kerry!!!

[Shopaholic]

77. Man is this fun!

I'm using my different screen names to send multiple e-mails with multiple talking points to the networks. I actually took about 10 pages of notes tonight during the debate. I've got PLENTY to talk about.

[cal04]

78. Poll on

WHOTV/half way down on the left
http://whotv.com/

Who do you think won the first Presidential debate of the 2004 election?

Thank you for participating in our poll. Here are the results so far.

President George Bush
40%

Senator John Kerry
60

[G_j]

102. now 65-35 n/t

[imax2268]

79. I'm on it Earl...

I have been emailing before, during, and after the debate...!!!

[benito]

83. Another local poll

http://www.katc.com/

Kerry 75%
Bush Jr. 25%

Light up this red state for me! Yeah to me for my first post.

[G_j]

89. & another local poll (NC)

scroll down on the right

http://www.citizen-times.com

73 Kerry
26 Bush

[G_j]

115. now 89-10

good going!

[mistertrickster]

93. Welcome to DU, Benito

:hi:

[G_j]

105. welcome Benito! now 79-21

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

81. time magazine (important one)

http://www.time.com/time

[stubertmcfly]

82. colorado poll

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/index.html

[Dakkon]

90. wow.. just wow

Today's debate is very good. Now I can sleep easy with that fascinating job by Kerry.

[Gman]

86. Another Link to poll

www.mysa.com

This poll is in San Antonio, Texas. You will find it about half way down the page, in "Cast your Vote".

[cal04]

88. Poll on CBS

Kerry:
91.13%
President Bush:
8.02%
Neither man. It was a draw :
0.85%

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

[Lithos]

91. Transcript

http://wid.ap.org/transcripts/debates/04prez.html

[UCLA Dem]

92. DU This poll!!

http://www.time.com/time

[UCLA Dem]

104. Good Job everyone!!! Its now Kerry 57, Shurb 41. Keep going!!!

We are going to win this spin war!!!

[Stevious]

94. Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2824115

[sofa king]

95. Star Tribune

http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5008889.html

Thanks to the Free Republic.

[UCLA Dem]

96. LA Times Poll!!

http://www.latimes.com/

Look for: "POLL: Who Do You Think Won Tonight's Debate?"

[stubertmcfly]

100. la times login

peeedash
220911

[Love Bug]

97. Please add this poll from the Minneapolis StarTribune

http://www.startribune.com/

Choose the "instant poll" right under the debate story.

Edit: Oops! Someone beat me to it. In the words of Emily Litella: "Never mind!"

[4morewars]

126. s/n &p/w

bugmenot
startribune

[wysiwyg]

98. PBS Presidential Debate Ballot (scorecard)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/debates/ballot.html

[Zomby Woof]

99. CBS News Online Poll

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

Kerry at 92%!!!

[Thurston Howell IV]

101. Fuckin' Freepers are using this list

Too fuckin' stupid to do their own work.
Bush lost the debate. He's toast assholes!

[UCLA Dem]

106. Yeah!! Stay away from our lists, you lazy morans!!!

[G_j]

119. Bush could not defend the bloody debacle of Iraq

and neither can Freepers or anyone else.

[obiwan]

130. Personally I think freepers only have 22 chromosomes...

Q: How many Republican supervisors does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: None. They make their Democrat subordinates do it.

[brianmattis]

103. Debate

Kerry wiped that smirk off of Bush's face.

[cal04]

107. 1010 wins

WINS WEBPOLL -- Who won the first debate?
BUSH 30.61%
KERRY 69.39%
49 votes counted.

http://www.1010wins.com/

[cjbuchanan]

108. Have not seen this direct link

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

[Chiyo-chichi]

109. Thank God for DU!

We are driving these polls! Doesn't hurt that JFK catually won the debate HANDS DOWN!

Must delete cookies.

Mmmmmmmm. Cookies.....

[SoCalDemocrat]

112. Write editorials to your regional media through DNC's site

Use this page to easily write editorials and get them submitted to media outlets in your region. It's quick and simple. ADMIN please add this to your summary above.

http://www.democrats.org/media /

[Rochambeau]

116. I just took a look to Freep Republikkk and they know...

They know Kerry did win the debates. Oh yes they feel it. They try to do their best to still appear confident ("those debates doesn't really matter in the end blah blah blah...") but they know their chimp have been so kicked he has now a baboon red ass.

I watched the debate on Cnn (the only way in France) and Kerry was good. Just one question, why did it take him so long to send such clear and good message about the quagmire in Iraq? Anyway, he made it !

Go Kerry !!:kick:

PS: How much did the GOP pay Wolf Blitzer for his dirty work tonight ?

[MADem]

117. Virginian-Pilot Online (Hampton Roads area--key precinct)

http://home.hamptonroads.com/poll/question.cfm?poll=3387

They go GOP but they are also Kerry Navy--a strong showing in this poll would be helpful.

[obiwan]

118. What A Killer Debate...

Kerry was obviously saving it up. Forceful, decisive, had a rational answer for everything. Confident, direct, honest. Didn't know he had it in him. A killer good debater.

Brought up the subject of judgement. Brilliant as (bad) judgement has been passed off as "steadfastness."

We saw our next president tonight.

Bush was the used car salesman deluxe. Thank god the podium mike picked up his pounding on the lectern. He doesn't realize how much damage this sound bite will do subliminally to derail his campaign. Hunched over as if he was trying to sell us something (recycled cow flop?) Visibly frustrated and/or flabbergasted. No imagination. Nothing new- the same tired mantra over and over.Showed the same brilliant command of English he's always had.

Two more like this and he will be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

He looked like a campfire weenie on a stick.

I am starting to feel genuine enthusiasm for our candidate.

[President Kerry]

123. Check out Begala's and Novak's blogs

on CNN website.. same mismatch as in the debate, Paul killed Bob Novak.

[Barad Simith]

124. wesh.com link changed to...

http://www.wesh.com/politics/index.html

[ArnoldLayne]

125. John Kerry clearly won tonights debate

he showed he has the knowledge,strength and conviction to be our next President of the United States. Everyone needs to email or send your coments to as many news organizations as they can. I commented and emailed Fox,CBS MSNBC CNN ABC as well as local newspaper and television stations. :kick:

[Overseas]

127. THANKS FOR THE LINKS

It was a pleasure spending the last hour or more e-mailing the media and doing all the polls. It was so sad in 2000 watching the mass media spin a Gore win into a Bush victory. Great to have some practical business to conduct to counteract that force.

JOHN KERRY WAS GREAT was my main message. He was intelligent, resolute, compassionate and strong. He was compassionate for respectfully challenging the President on the facts-- Osama flip, Iraq WMD flip, N Korea flip, Iran flip, Homeland Security flop... And he offered intelligent solutions.

BUSH, by contrast,SEEMED TIRED AND CONFUSED. He ummed and awed and kept repeating tired old phrases like an RNC Toothpaste Commercial. And he kept saying "It's a hard job..." and "It's a tough job..." Well, Mr. President, yes, the job is too tough for you-- we need a President like John Kerry who understands military strategy from the inside, has been fighting international terrorism for years, knows the importance of international relations, and will move the country forward to energy independence.

And I asked some of the journalists I e-mailed to please have the courage to tell the truth that Kerry won and resist the RNC toothpaste commercial.

[RapidCreek]

128. NEED HELP HERE.

Rapid City Journal....Rapid City South Dakota

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/

Thanks,
RC

[harpo]

132. leading now ;)

[obiwan]

135. Done deal...

I lived in Yankton when I was a kid. Beautiful state but the Repugs are dumb as dirt.

[RapidCreek]

142. Thanks folks!

We need all the help we can get out here!

RC

[harpo]

129. dfw nbc...

http://www.nbc5i.com/index.html (click on "who won the debate")

[Dem2theMax]

131. Is anyone else having trouble accessing any of these sites?

I can load the pages to a point, then they stop, and I cannot enter any information at all. This is happening on EVERY site. Never had that happen before. If it's because of traffic, I sure hope the links are still working tomorrow, because I don't have access to my computer all night tonight. AAAARRRRGGGGGGG.

[Mr. Jinx]

134. Three more polls from NC

WXII12- Winston-Salem, NC: http://www.wxii12.com/index.html (look for "Survey: Who Won The Debate?" on the left hand side)

WFMY News 2- Greensboro, NC: http://www.wfmy.com/news/poll/default.aspx

WXLV 45- Greensboro, NC (Sinclair Broadcast Group): http://www.abc45.com/greensboro_nc/ (scroll to bottom of page)

[obiwan]

137. Shoot! This is more fun than squishing tadpoles!

[mr_binklesworth]

136. Thanks for the summary of poll sites...

Spent about 45 minutes voting on them all (having to reboot every 10 minutes after losing net connectivity).

Thanks! All but one was overwhelmingly in favor of Kerry.

Cheers!
-MF

[Beartracks]

138. KOTV poll in Tulsa...

>>All but one was overwhelmingly in favor of Kerry.

Was that the one in Tulsa? I think it's still sort of reversed from most of the others I've seen. Something like 63% Bush... But OK is fairly Bush-y country, I guess. You'd think, though, that the debates would have had an impact... You suppose last week such a poll would have been even MORE in favor of Bush? Anyone have a clue how Kerry rates in OK?

[cmd]

140. Dover/New Philadelphia, Ohio poll... top left

http://www.timesreporter.com/browser_detect.php

[ianrs]

144. 0% Bush..

Thank you West Virginia (and possibly a few outsiders)! WRFT WV poll (although slightly mystified by the missing 2%):

George W. Bush 0 %
John Kerry 98 %
Too Close to Call 0 %
Neither 0 %

[pinto]

145. kick.

[Perdita_Durango]

146. Another Poll :-)

http://www.campaignline.com/poll/index.cfm?navid=54

[RebelOne]

147. Atlanta, Georgia

www.wsbradio.com. And even here in Georgia Kerry is ahead in the debate poll.

[melv]

148. Hit that Tulsa Poll, folks

Bush is leading right now.

[6th Borough]

149. Clicky. Clicky. Clciky Clicky Clicky.

That was a workout...I think I burned off the ribs I had last night.

Nearly all of the polls seem way swung in our favor. Hoorah!:toast:

[Misunderestimator]

154. Fingers ache, but finished all the polls, now off to write some LTTEs

This makes me feel SO warm and fuzzy. I've never seen so many online polls so heavily on our side. I was so afraid I'd wake up this morning and discover the same spinning going on that happened to Gore. Kerry gave them NOTHING to use against him, and EVERYTHING to use against Bush. I can't wait to see the newest ad that will use Bush's grimaces and bumbling and dissembling.

[MsTryska]

153. man are my fingers tired....

last night was a good night.

[ArnoldLayne]

155. Mine are too

all the typing I did last night and this morning. :kick:

[MsTryska]

167. Mine is mostly my clicker-finger.

as soon as it was all said and done, i du'ed as many polls as i could get to load on dialup at home, and then this morning first thing i went through the list.


my fingers are getting tired with the typing now tho. :)

[terrya]

156. Chicago Tribune.

Again, Kerry is winning the poll.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/?track=ctnewstab

[serryjw]

157. Atlanta Constitution Journal

11AM on 10/1 MOUNTAIN TIME


Be honest: Who won the debate?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bush 30.15% 4455
Kerry 58.24% 8606
Neither 11.54% 1705
How did the debate change your view of the candidates?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I like them both better. 1.77% 231
I like Bush more, Kerry less. 20.59% 2692
I like Kerry more, Bush less. 45.97% 6010
I like them both less. 1.67% 218
Didn't change my view. 30.00% 3922

Who seemed more presidential?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bush 40.75% 5189
Kerry 59.23% 7543



Hey think is Atlanta..I'll take this any day. If this was 11/2 we would win!

[iverglas]

158. "... no doubt he can lead the fight to hunt and kill the terrorists"

I was disturbed when Kerry said this -- "kill the terrorists" -- and I am disturbed to see it offered here as a talking point.

Kerry has demonstrated commitment to the rule of law in international affairs, with his unpopular support of the International Criminal Court (for which I laud him). He has also expressed respect for the opinion of the community of nations (ditto).

A promise to "kill the terrorists" seems inconsistent with those values. It seems more consistent with the Bush administration's approach to the rights of people it doesn't like (cf. "enemy combattants").

Even the term "hunt" is dehumanizing and inconsistent with liberal / democratic / progressive values. (And no, I don't really care how "inhuman" terrorists' acts are; terrorists aren't liberal or democratic or progressive, and what they do does not control how we react to them.)

Accused terrorists have human rights. The right to life and not to be deprived thereof without due process is one of those rights. Individual self-defence is a widely (although not universally) recognized justification for permitting killing, and killing in collective self-defence (killing in the course of war) is similarly recognized.

But in both cases, there must be justification -- the killing must be demonstrably reasonable and necessary in self-defence. Starting out with the stated goal of killing tends to preclude subsequent claims to have killed in self-defence.

Apprehending and punishing criminals, including terrorists, are valid goals. Killing someone engaged in an attempt to kill one's self or members of one's group is justified. But we do not "hunt and kill" people, not in societies under the rule of law, and not if we expect support in the court of international public opinion.

I would rather Kerry had not said this, but I recognize that things get said in extemporaneous speech that might not be said on sober second thought.

But I really do not see how using this statement as a talking point is consistent with Kerry's, or liberal / democratic / progressive, commitment to the rule of law and to engaging with the global community.

[Jo March]

159. We need to keep this up! Keep it going!

I am going to keep on emailing, writing, calling - whatever. Bush lost and everyone needs to know it! Keep this up, DU'ers. Those polls out there don't stand a chance!

This is thrilling! We are all pulling together to win this thing. This is AWESOME! DU, you are AWESOME!

[TexasBushwhacker]

160. Conspiracy of silence?

I must say that the overwhelming approval of Kerry in all the polls that I've looked at makes me think that the Bush supporters just aren't voting.

[CitizenRob]

168. Republicans...

Obviously most Republicans are too stupid to use computers.

[Teaser]

162. ESPN Poll

Win one for Al Michaels.

http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/index

[SodoffBush]

165. Here's a poll from North Dakota (Kerry ahead, natch)

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/

http://www.in-forum.com/

[wildeyed]

166. Charlotte Observer

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/

[slutticus]

169. FAUX!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/

Who won Thursday's presidential debate in Coral Gables, Fla.?

a. It was a tie
(14%)
19,457

b. President Bush
(40%)
55,923

c. Senator Kerry
(40%)
56,071

d. I did not watch
(5%)
6,618

e. None of the above
(1%)
1,303

139,372 total votes

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

170. South Dakota paper (Kerry ahead)

http://www.argusleader.com/news.shtml

[djbowler]

171. Debora Norville Daily Show Interview

Is anyone watching this? It's painful. She's interviewing the writers on the show and Steve Colber and Samantha Bee and I think they're all getting very good material from Norville. I think Chris Rose would be a better format for The Daily Show writers and correspondents.

[Renew Deal]

172. Poll

http://www.nynewsday.com/other/special/amny/

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

173. Conservative Santa Clarita poll

http://www.the-signal.com/surveys/result.asp?s=0 (vote on the left, down)

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

174. Coeur d'Alene Press could use a little help--not much, though

http://www.cdapress.com/