This Picture of the Little Girl and her Sign is Spreading...Real Smart

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

I'm starting to see this picture on more sites and blogs. Hell, it's even on a numismatic site that I frequent. Not smart guys...not smart. Let's not add fire to the flame by making stupid comments justifying this crap.

[gospelized]

1. right

let's not make stupid comments justifying a dad using his daughter as his political pawn for his own ammusement.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. True. Also, let us spend time on this instead of dealing with...

the much more important horror's of Iraq.

:eyes:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

3. "Let's not add fire to the flame by making stupid comments justifying this

crap."

Like you are trying to incite by posting yet another thread on this? Hmmmm???:think:

[quaoar]

5. He's a numismatist

And as a fellow numismatist, I can say that make him all right.

And he happens to be correct about the little girl picture.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. I see you and "Yellow Dawg" tag teaming each other on multiple

threads on this. I guess you are both "all right"?

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

19. You probably see black helicopters too

That's bullshit.

[quaoar]

32. Yeah.

I guess we're both in favor of being nice to 3-year-olds.

Better hit the alert button.

[jonnyblitz]

15. hmmm is right.

snicker.

[Kahuna]

44. I'm sure that the sign was given to the girl AFTER it was torn...

I hardly think that anyone grabbed it out of her hand, ripped it and gave it back to her.

[LoZoccolo]

4. It's on Drudge, that's probably why. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

25. And, of course, Drudge knew nothing about it until you and I posted it

on DU. :eyes:

:toast: :)

[candy331]

6. Why would a father bring his small daughter holding a protest

sign to the opposition camp in the first place? Maybe that should be looked into, tolerant Dem's have to bow for intolerant repubs too much as it is.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

7. It borders on child abuse

how come no one is looking at that angle? The father showed REALLY poor judgement. I can't believe he has 10 kids.

[LisaL]

12. Actually, I CAN

believe he has 10 kids.

[BurtWorm]

8. "Not smart guys?" Are you talking to us?

Was anyone from DU at that rally? Did a DUer rip the sign out of the girl's hands? Who are you addressing this to? Chances are most people on DU agree with you.

[LoZoccolo]

9. "A white kid crying is worse than a brown kid dead."

That's basically what you can read into Republican outrage over this tommorow. I understand why my fellow Democrats were upset at me making a joke out of this, and I think that outrage is genuine and I'm sorry, but think about what I said in the subject when Republicans are hypocritically making a big deal out of this tommorow.

[IndianaGreen]

16. How about this quote: "I rather have Iraqis die under Kerry..."

A couple of quotes from other partisans as callous as the one that tore the little girl's sign:

“I would rather have Iraqis die under Kerry than have Iraqis die under Bush.”

<snip>

“I don’t care about Iraqi women.”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/sep2004/minn-s16.shtml

We have become the enemy we despised!

This is the sort of shit that happens when the campaign is not disciplined enough. Who was on the advance party for the Edwards appearance?

BTW, like another DUer pointed out, this shit is making the rounds in the internet tonight, including some of the idiotic infantile responses that some people have posted in DU tonight.

You don't pick on children to make a political point!

[Maddy McCall]

26. Yeah, and you don't prop them on your shoulders holding the opposition

sign in the middle of a crowd of union workers to make a political point.

I would NEVER take my son to a Republican rally with a Kerry sign. Either way, it's asking for trouble, and very stupid on the parent's part.

[IndianaGreen]

27. Since when the First Amendment become conditional?

How can we criticize the other side when they try to silence free speech when we do it ourselves?

[Maddy McCall]

29. I am not talking about the 1st. I am talking about parental instinct and

good judgment, which this man obviously lacks.

[IndianaGreen]

35. Nothing excuses an assault on a 3-year old

and I find the apologists to be way out of line!

[Guaranteed]

50. What's the excuse for focusing on a ripped up sign instead

of incinerated children?

[makhno]

52. Assault?

What is that assault you speak of? Snatching the sign away from the irresponsible father? The man should've left his kid out of it.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

17. Sadly true. The Bushler youth has more value than innocent...

Iraqi Children.

[nosmokes]

11. just like the sun, it'll cover the globe before the day's over.

we got idiots and jerks on our side as well, and all we can do is call them on their behavior when they get outta line.

granted, dad shoulda never been there with his 3yo kid, but jumping a child is indefensable. i know i'll be putting up with crap from the right wingers that hang at the other sites i do tomorrow. oh, man, will i ever.

[makhno]

13. Of course it's going to spread

Why do you think the right wing mouthpiece Associated Press put it out in the first place - for your political education?

And, guys, stop spreading the meme of the "girl and her sign" right now. The father was carrying the sign. No one took anything from the child or threatened her in any way.

Enough. Don't spread republican lies.

[AuntPatsy]

22. I didn't quite comprehend that until you said that but it makes

do difference and that wont help, she could have easily fell off his shoulders, the one how did this act should be held accountable, I know accountability seems to be only used for Democrats but it doesn't excuse anyone doing such and I still believe it to be a plant, we do NOT know the whole story and can only tell it by the pictures and at this time the pictures speak volumes and not in a good light towards the father who continued to hold this small child on his shoulders in what he should have conceived to be a threatening crowd....

He needs to be held accountable as well, its about time someone in that party takes responsibility for something dont you think?

[jonnyblitz]

14. why are you yelling at DUers? n/t

[Nordic]

18. what about these kids? Think about them?

I sorta doubt it. This was caused by a helicopter-fired US missile on a public street in Baghdad.

[IndianaGreen]

23. I don't hear our candidate calling for an immediate US withdrawal

If President Kerry does not pull out of Iraq as soon as he takes office, Iraqis will continue to die under American bombs. Or are Democratic bombs preferable to Republican bombs?

[Nordic]

41. Hey, I'm with you

I want us out of there yesterday.

There is no "winning" of this.

But somehow I think Kerry will get us out of there quicker than Bush will.

[AuntPatsy]

24. More and more should be showed to the American public

THIS is an OUTRAGE against humanity....

[WilliamPitt]

20. pzzzzzzzcheeeeeezzzzz

[Borgnine]

21. Oh no!

A little girl's sign got torn up! That does it! I'm voting for Bush! The 1,000 plus troops and thousands of dead Iraqis just can't compare with this!

If anybody votes for Bush over this, then they're as fucking dumb as the guy who tore up the sign in the first place.

[Guaranteed]

28. Where's the outrage over THIS kid??

[Maddy McCall]

30. and the 10,000s more like him...

Thanks for that stark reminder, BGL. :cry:

[Guaranteed]

31. Bring those Repuke pieces of shit on. nt

[nlik]

39. Yes,

Since obviously people at a rally can't be expected to act humane with people of differing views.

Even more, maybe we should encourage attacking other children to bring more attention to the death of innocents in Iraq?

[Guaranteed]

47. So you're not outraged over incinerated kids in Iraq?

You'd rather talk about a sign getting torn up. Great. That's great.

[nlik]

48. Of course I am.

But I have a large brain and can be upset by multiple things at once.

[Guaranteed]

49. But you can't WRITE about multiple things at once...

and would you please point me to your posts in the multiple threads reporting our bombing of civilians wherein you're screaming and yelling at the top of your lungs about how horrible it is?

[Maddy McCall]

51. Or, better yet, ANY post at DU that looks vaguely Democratic or

progressive.

[nlik]

54. First of all...

As you can see by my post count I am fairly new here.

Second, by reading posts here I am probably in agreement with 99% of the people on DU about the war so there is no need to scream at the top of my lungs since everyone here shares the same sentiment and the people I would be screaming at wouldnt hear it.

Third, I am not screaming at the top of my lungs about the little girl crying.

[Guaranteed]

56. Right, but I made the point before

that any reaction given to this should be proportional to one's reaction to the injustice of civilians being killed so horribly.

[nlik]

58. Fair enough,

But is there really any debate here (in the forum) over the slaughter of innocents? There are probably hundred of posts here expressing solidarity in outrage about it. My point is that just because there is something else more horrible going on doesn't mean we can't care about other less important things also.

[Guaranteed]

59. I've never seen real outrage here on DU.

The strongest responses I've seen, to anything, really, might be described as very angry.

Outrage? Nah...but if the guy who did this is an "asshole," you'd better have a real strong word for the "assholes" in the Bush administration.

[IndianaGreen]

46. How about the million of babies murdered in legalized abortions?

You see, that's how the RW will play this game of oneupmanship.

Defending the actions of the Union loser that ripped the sign from a 3-year old girl does not score debating points, and makes us all look so.... Republican.

[Guaranteed]

62. Well, you know, probably about half of those abortions are carried

out by REPUBLICANS.

[Maddy McCall]

33. Post links to the blogs where you are seing this show up...

I'd love to see evidence that DU prodded this story.

[Guaranteed]

34. Hell yes. Maybe we could give them some perspective. nt

[Virginian]

36. Questions

I've been busy today and not able to catch the news.
Is there only one still picture of this child crying on her father's shoulders?
Does anyone know for sure that she is crying because her sign is ripped? Could she be crying because of a noisy crowd? Could she be crying because of something else?

[Kahuna]

45. And.. How did she come by the ripped sign? Do you really think...

someone reached up while she was on her father's shoulders and ripped it while it was in her hands? I doubt it.

[usregimechange]

37. Why don't I see a picture? nt

[Julian English]

38. Spread the idea the father is unfit

Seriously, if someone knowingly exploits a child, as this jackass did, he can hardly be a fit parent.

The other irony is that * screens rallies so carefully, the shithead with the kid would have been arrested for that sort of stunts at a */Cheney rally.

[frylock]

40. this is a non fucking issue..

so this breeder brings child #10 to a Kerry rally, and an ALLEGED Kerry supporter rips the sign out of her hand, and an AP photog just happens to capture the moment. I honestly thought the game had passed Rover up, but evidently not. :eyes:

[jsw_81]

42. It is spreading, unfortunately

It has already hit a few major papers and you can bet that Joe and Jane Swing Voter aren't going to like it one bit.

Those of you who are defending the thugs who did this are a disgrace to our party. Keep this shit up and we're going to get trounced in November.

[Maddy McCall]

43. Blaming an irresponsible father is not the same as condoning the act

[Guaranteed]

55. I'll be very straightforward, here:

I DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT THAT KID.

I give a shit about thousands of blown-up kids both in other countries AND in ours. I give a shit about MILLIONS of our children who don't have the health care they need. I give a shit about the kids that aren't getting the education that they need because the Chimp is taking money from their schools. And FINALLY, I give a shit about EVERY SINGLE CHILD IN OUR COUNTRY, all of whom are being put in GREATER DANGER by these clowns' RECKLESS foreign policy and disingenuous rhetoric.

[LisaL]

53. I am getting really tired of this shit.

Let's just find the guy who did rip the sign and trow him in jail for life. Justice will be done!
:eyes:

[vetwife]

57. On the site you see it..post this and mix it up !

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Nomad59/GoldStar.wmv

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

60. We should track down the bastard who tore her sign!

What an a**hole that person must be!

Who in their right mind would harrass some poor three year old who is at that event with her father??

This poor little girl did not deserve any blame. Just like we tracked down the RNC kicker, let's track down the person who ripped this sign. Let's show the Right that we apply our ethics to ourselves.

[Guaranteed]

61. Yeah, sounds like something some dirty Repuke would do,

doesn't it?

[deckerd]

63. Buddy, you're way out of line on this particular issue

If you don't think so, keep it up -- no, write letters to the editor. Say you're part of the Kerry campaign. Go ahead. Or aren't you willing to stand by what you say here in public?

Race baiting, morally relativistic, PC to the point of sh*t-kicking reverse fascism, dehumanization of the enemy -- as Pogo said "we have met the enemy and it is us". So many of my fellow liberals are just pale imitations of the Ugly American they've been rebelling against since childhood. Sorry man. I got repub relatives. Don't mess with my relatives' kids. And props to whoever called out anyone who believes Kerry's prepared to stop the military from killing Iraqi children.

[Maddy McCall]

68. No he isn't, not at all.

Perhaps you should read the posts further down the page before you go off on your tirades.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=828458&mesg_id=828458

If your repub relatives aren't serial disruptors looking for fights, and taking their kids as shields to their opponents rallies, no one here has a beef with you or your relatives.

We are already emailing editors and national media outlets. Perhaps, if you really are a Democrat, you should do the same.

Pssssssst!

[ibegurpard]

64. Oh, please

What was the stupid tool expecting when he took his kids to hold up signs for the opposition, knowing how explosive the political climate is in this country right now? What a dick!
I would never rip a sign away from a kid and it's pretty nasty for someone to do so but this guy should've left his kids at home. I certainly wouldn't take kids to a Bush rally if I was planning on standing there holding up anti-Bush or pro-Kerry signs.

[Ruffhowse]

65. If we wanted the same type of photo for our side, all we would need to do

is attend a Bush rally with a small child and the same thing would happen, no doubt at all. Fortunately, I believe we are more responsible toward our children than the idiot in this photo is, and wouldn't drag our children into the middle of something like this. It's too bad the right wing echo chamber will be resonating with this photo tomorrow. They will do ANYTHING to win, even endanger their own children. I think that comes under the heading of fanatic. This guy fits that description to a T after reading more about him in some other threads.

[Ruffhowse]

66. It will be interesting to see how the media handles this. We've had our

share of these kind of incidents (the woman who's hair was pulled, and the girl who was knocked to the ground and kicked) and neither got much if any media attention. If the media goes hog wild over this photo, it will absolutely verify my assessment that they are RW controlled and we will never get an even break from them.

[DoYouEverWonder]

67. Show me the assault

Where are the pictures? Where are the witnesses?

So far all we have is this guy and his story.


Turns out he's done this sort of thing numerous times at other rallies and he always brings the same photographer with him.

Funny, there are no pictures of anyone actually bothering the kid?