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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:34 PM
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Obama's Best Speech Ever
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/11/10/obamas_bes...

Obama's Best Speech Ever


President Obama's speech at Fort Hood may go down as one of his best ever.

The president was able to balance his duties as Commander in Chief while consoling a nation in the aftermath of a terrible tragedy. That he was able to do this while taking away the focus on the shooter's religion was even more impressive.

It was one of those speeches that makes you especially proud to be an American.

Marc Ambinder: "I guarantee: they'll be teaching this one in rhetoric classes. It was that good. My gloss won't do it justice. Yes, I'm having a Chris Matthews-chill-running-up-my-leg moment, but sometimes, the man, the moment and the words come together and meet the challenge. Obama had to lead a nation's grieving; he had to try and address the thorny issues of Islam and terrorism; to be firm; to express the spirit of America, using familiar, comforting tropes in a way that didn't sound trite."

Chuck Todd: "That's going to be a speech that's remembered and quoted from for quite some time; struck a balance of commander and consoler; not easy."

Video at link~
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:36 PM
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1. Dammit Obama!! Why can't we quit yew!!!!
I haven't heard the speech yet...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:41 PM
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2. I'll admit it - I cried during one part of it.
I won't mention it so as not to spoil it for you.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:55 PM
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107. It's moving
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:42 PM
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3. Very, very, tacky thread.
Sometimes, it's not about Obama. Let's wait a day or two before groveling at St. Obama's feet. His speech was about the victims, and that's where I think our focus should be.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:45 PM
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7. No. It's about a speech that Obama gave.
:shrug:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:46 PM
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9. Some are just so hateful....
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:46 PM
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8. WTF?!?!?! You're kidding right??!?! "groveling at St Obama feet"?!?!?!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:47 PM
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10. One of the most disgusting posts I've ever read on DU.
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 03:47 PM by jefferson_dem
Yes, yours. :thumbsdown:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:09 PM
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37. This one has a habit of making such posts, Here's an even worse one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

The thread was open for people with dire medical needs whose very lives may depend on health care reform passing this year.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:39 AM
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119. Must be why I've got him on Ignore already. nt
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:47 PM
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11. It's not about Obama: it is about the masterful message he imparted today
If anything is tacky here, it's the message you posted.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:53 PM
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16. I am still in shock that Chuck Todd had positive words about the speech
I've got to hear this ~ is there a video link yet?
I just got home.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:54 PM
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19. Who knew Chucky worshipped at the altar of St. Obama too?
:sarcasm:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:27 PM
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65. Clearly Obama is the Hypnotoad
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:32 PM
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74. LOL, he kind of looks like Chucky
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:34 PM by AspenRose
:rofl: Poor toad.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:38 PM
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78. It's about healing the hate before it's too late to save
someone else from getting killed. But, that goes right over the haters' heads.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:53 PM
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17. Oh good Lord.
:eyes:
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:58 PM
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25. Even Tackier Post
you are one sad human.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:00 PM
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26. Very, very tacky post
Sometimes it's not about your hate for Obama. You should have waited a minute or two before pissing on Barack Obama's feet.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:03 PM
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29. The President's Speech Was About All of Us...
While we might not be physical victims, we are all emotional victims of this heinous crime and I for one felt comforted by the President's words. It is about who consoles us in times of need, who is there for us; as an individual, it is our family and friends; as a nation, it is our President. This is about Obama and about all of us.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:16 PM
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55. lol! Another Bitter One here! nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:32 PM
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75. Sez the onlooker who never passed up a chance
to be as Tacky as it wanted to be.

Your hypocricy is full blown.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:36 PM
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77. Ouch. The bitters, they must hurt.
Go write Ambinder and spread the love.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:09 PM
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94. It's not about
Obama, it's about the words he used today to comfort the families of the fallen soldiers.

And leave it to you to come along and start with the bullshit right wing talking points bullshit.

Congrats, you win the prize for the stupidest post of the day. You're the one who took the focus off where it should be, not Obama.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:52 PM
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106. Seems a bit harsh...
but, we are all entitled to our opinions.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:08 AM
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123. I'm tired of the cult of Obama
I support Obama, but he's been a mediocre president so far (Guantanamo, Afghanistan, Don't Ask/Don't Tell, Wall Street bailouts, etc.). There are just too many threads in DU that are fundamentally about how gorgeous Obama is or how great he is for reasons other than his accomplishments. Too many people treat him in the same way too many Republicans treated Bush, like they were saints who could do no wrong. That, in my opinion, is counterproductive. This thread would have been much better if it was titled, Beautiful eulogy delivered by Obama -- rather than making the speech a measure of Obama, I felt it should have been a measure of his tribute to those who died.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:52 AM
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125. I am tired of a whole lot of things
one of them being the "absolutism", I have come to know here on DU. You make some valid points, Obama is no saint, but nor is he the opposite. Perhaps the post could have been titled a bit differently, but I got " it " without too much of a streach.

I do disagree with you on the "gorgeous Obama threads" I am sure there are some, but there are very many that call him or his actions into question, which is how it should be. We all have a right to express ourselves, but we can be considerate of others when doing so.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 08:16 PM
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130. I'm tired of your fucking petty jealousy that turns you fucking green.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:21 PM
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133. Jealousy? What in the world would I be jealous of?
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 09:23 PM by Onlooker
I'm not a groupie or a sycophant, and rather than get on my knees and worship Obama when he fails, I prefer to try to keep in to the flame so that he delivers for the poor, the homeless, those who are losing their homes, those who are losing their jobs, those who are victims of discrimination, and so on. My guess is that you live a sheltered life, and have not been a victim of unfairness. You might love Obama, and that's fine, but I'm not a hero-worshipper. I outgrew that many years ago. But, I find your blind love for him rather touching.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:23 PM
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110. Might as well change your DU name. You just trashed that sockpuppet beyond repair. nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:50 PM
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126. Not as tacky as giving Bush props for ignoring pre 911
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 01:51 PM by mzmolly
warnings.

"Ooooh, look at how he handled that bullhorn!" :eyes:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 08:26 PM
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131. Ewwww. Who peeled your apple??? n/t
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:42 PM
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134. I love it when people throw out some arbitrary time period of "no comment" that must be observed by
everyone else lest they be "tacky" and "groveling at" someone's feet.

It happens every time there is a disaster, a death, an accident, an unfortunate event, a commemorative speech, etc.
Someone pops in to let people know that they are in violation of some random rule they've come up with.

Onlooker has decided the proper "no comment"/ "focus" elsewhere period is one day, maybe two.

Well, Onlooker, I think you are tacky as hell!
I think the appropriate time period is three and a half work days!
How dare you suggest that people start groveling at St. Obama's feet in one or two measly days.
Your disrespect for our troops is noted.

I am shaking my head at you as I type!
Tsk, tsk.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:43 PM
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4. Words are nothing more than wisps of vapor drifting through the sky.
Or put another way. Actions matter, words do not.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:44 PM
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5. WOW!!! You most likely unrec'd this too...have hate much?!
You know these type of actions take away folks credibility right?!
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:52 PM
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14. Actually I hadn't unrec'd it
but if that's what I'm supposed to do, I won't disappoint you.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:56 PM
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20. Keep your objectiveness and credibility it's more important k?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:50 PM
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12. What, pray tell, action you are demanding in this instance?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:10 PM
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95. They want him to shoot the killer himself.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:33 PM
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104. Save their lives by pulling out of Afghanistan would be a good start.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:50 PM
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13. What the fuck are you talking about?
What actions? Good Lord... Get a grip.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:01 PM
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27. Bugger off hater..President Obama was consoling a Nation
and the Family and Friends of those who were killed. Your hate has no place here.

Find somewhere else to spew your bitter whine.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:05 PM
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31. 99% of human activity is based around communication.
We couldn't do much without it.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:20 PM
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101. 99%?
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 06:28 PM by cornermouse
I probably live at a lower socio-economic level than you. Also there's something about having your rights reduced to a bargaining chip that make you feel like they don't want 99% communication. (I tend to define communication as a two way street, not a one way only)

Words are nice but if actions don't follow the words then it was all for nothing.

I'm torn between rofl at the over reaction on this thread and sadness at what DU has become. It used to be better, much better.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:37 PM
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127. dupe
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 02:38 PM by CJCRANE
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:37 PM
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128. You're right.
It was an exaggeration. It would be more accurate to say "most human activities *involve* communication" (even if it's just your boss telling you what to do at the start of the day).

As for socio-economic level, while it's true I'm not working on the factory floor, I'm not management either, I'm struggling to get by just like everyone else.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:05 PM
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32. So....Tell Me...
Does that mean the words in the US Constitution don't matter?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:09 PM
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39. And yours are like a fart in a crowded room. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #39
85. It's one
smelly mouse.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:41 PM
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82. Tell those bereaved families that to their faces, if you have the guts. n/t
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:26 PM
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111. In your case, poorly chosen words.
You can't write for shit.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 01:03 AM
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118. All we are is dust in the wind, dude.
Dust. Wind.

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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 06:35 AM
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124. Dust in the Wind.
I love that song. I also love Blowin' in the Wind by Peter, Paul, and Mary. The anti-war songs of CCR and Fogerty's newer anti-Bush/war songs.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:45 PM
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6. It was a remarkable piece of oration
Pitch perfect. Sometimes I get bored with the guy ... then I am reminded of his extraordinary powers to move the people, and to move ideas.
It was the most presidential moment I have seen from him yet, and incredibly thought-provoking and moving.



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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:52 PM
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15. This country is lucky to have a President like Barack Obama.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:56 PM
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23. He's generational no doubt....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:10 PM
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40. Yes, we are.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:54 PM
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18. Full text & Youtube
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:17 PM
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99. Link to full video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/10/obama-ft-hood-...

The video at your link is edited down from 14 minutes to 3.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:56 PM
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21. Fine speeches are just that - words. It is a tale... full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 03:56 PM by T Wolf
For the educated among us, I dropped the phrase because I do not think Obama is an idiot.

He is smart and is doing exactly what he wants to do.

Just not what I would want him to do.

And are the media accolades because he is giving a non-political speech, praising dead soldiers? Wonder if the praise would be as much if he spoke as well in support of one of his "socialist" policies like universal health care or ending the wars against the Middle East. But then, those speeches are only dreams...
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:57 PM
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24. Damn, more fail here...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:03 PM
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30. A recommendation...
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:11 PM by jefferson_dem
I recommend you contact each of the family members who lost a brother, sister, son, daughter at Fort Hood and tell them all they got today was "sound and fury". Please don't forget to let us know what you get in response.

Seriously, what the hell is up with all the snarky bitterness and hate on DU lately?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:05 PM
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34. Freepers with high post counts, some of the rants are straight TPs from the GOP
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:08 PM
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36. We have stupid here too..the
freeptards don't have a monopoly on it.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:12 PM
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45. That one has always hated Obama and fancies himself
much smarter than the 70 million commoners who dare disagree with his Marxian orthodoxy.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:05 PM
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33. You understand nothing.
This was a speech to console those who are grieving..not something for you to get up on your wobbly pedestal and pontificate how proud you are to be a hater.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:09 PM
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38. For the Educated Among US????
Seriously...how self-important do you feel? Obviously more than anyone else thinks.

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:31 PM
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73. .
"He is smart and is doing exactly what he wants to do. Just not what I would want him to do."

Pretty much answers THAT question...
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:10 PM
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41. Wow, this thread really brought them out of the woodwork.
They just can't help themselves.

Less classy than Freepers.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:11 PM
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43. I wouldn't doubt if some were freepers
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:14 PM
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51. No, this one is an extreme leftwing Obama hater.
Not sure why he hangs out at a Democratic forum, other than to pretend he's smarter and nobler than anyone else.

When, in reality, it's quite the opposite.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:45 PM
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114. The trolls are out of control nt
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:13 PM
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98. For the educated
among us? Well, that sort of leaves you out now doesn't it?

I guess all you haters are seething at the fact that before and after his speech, President Obama was given a great cheer. It irks you fucking haters that Obama is so popular doesn't it?

All you and your ilk do is belittle the man every time he speaks. Why? Because you have nothing else.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:56 PM
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22. It was a decent speech- and I suppose it doesn't hurt to have the media types creaming their pants
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:02 PM
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28. Whatever.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:06 PM
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35. Wow. The hate has really gone to DEFCON1 on DU.
Such a pity.

If we can't offer praise to those we disagree with vehemently when they get it right, it becomes a very sorry reflection on us all.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
48. Hardly hate! Just not hyperbole
and not given to the same adulation the media types are into.

Seems to me after 8 years of Bush, people have forgotten what decent public speaking looks like.

Oh, and btw: This isn't going to be "taught in rhetoric classes." Please.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Yeah, sure. nt
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #48
53. You don't know what's going to happen and I pray that it is taught now, stop hatin
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #48
56. So I guess it takes a back seat to, "I found my voice in New Hampshire."
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #48
67. Mmmm hmmmm. You stick with that story,
sweetie.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
49. Sometimes....
I wonder why some of these posters even call themselves Democrats. I fully understand disagreements over issues and actions but to be so venomous to each other and not respect the views of others is so un-Democratic like. I do believe that some are suffering from a "superiority" complex. It's not attractive.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:11 PM
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42. Wow, the grand slam of the Haterade Corps. nt
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. "Haterade Corps"....lol, no doubt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:19 PM
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58. Describes them to a T. They love the MSM when Pres. Obama is being trashed, though! nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #58
66. Praise = "hyperbole", Criticism = "speaking truth to power".
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #66
81. Exactly. You have those assholes' number down. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #66
87. Praise isn't over the top adulation- like I said, some of you seriously lack perspective
and get so worked up into a frenzy that anyone who does is automatically some sort of hater. Wow.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:57 PM
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93. Oooh, you are SO smart and sophisticated.
So worldly, so wise.

These miscreants should be thankful that someone with your clearly superior intellect and taste is here to shove their ignorance in their grubby, Obama-supporting faces.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #93
108. Beats sounding like a bunch of starry eyed groupies
fawning over the favorite star.

Come to think of it- it reminds me of how some Republicans used to fawn over Bush....
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #108
115. Funny, you talk about Obama the way that real life Democrats talk
about Bush.

But, we get it. You're anti-Obama, anti-Bush, anti-everything. Because you're too good to be pro-anyone else.

But, come 2012 after we real Democrats get Obama re-elected, you'll claim to have been there all along, and then proceed to bitch about how he's already betrayed you.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #87
97. My earlier post to you was more reflective of the entire thread.
It wasn't an attempt to single you out as a "hater".

Collectively, there is significant amount of hate on this thread.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #22
44. Sick.
n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #22
47. The Obama Hate runs Deep in You, Bitter One. nt
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:13 PM by ClarkUSA
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. You have a serious problem with perspective
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:15 PM by depakid
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:16 PM
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54. Perspective, Obama gives great moving speach and you hate that? Correct? TIA
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #54
59. WTF are you talking about?
Obama gives a decent panegyric and if someone's not creaming their pants over it they're suddenly haters.

What a bunch of freaks....
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #59
63. People are being objective about the speech and its tenare you're not, you don't like it no
...need to piss on other folks parade
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. Not at all, but you have a serious problem with President Obama. nt
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:18 PM by ClarkUSA
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #52
60. The President eulogizes 13 fallen soldiers who were gunned down
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:23 PM by jefferson_dem
in a senseless, tragic killing spree.

You say it was a "decent" speech and the media is "creaming" itself.

Sorry, dude, that's just sick. Yours is the perspective that's lost.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. It was a panegyric- what do you expect?
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 04:25 PM by depakid
That's what they're supposed to look and sound like. Apparently you and others have never heard these types of speeches before.

Maybe they don't teach that in speech classes these days- or maybe folks have never taken the classes. Sheesh.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. Now you're being condescending...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #64
69. Maybe so- but I mean come on now
Some of you are behaving ridiculously.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #69
72. No, YOU are the one picking a fight.
Maybe you should tone down the "smarmy, Dennis Miller-style self-important pretentious jackass" routine.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #62
68. I, for one, consider your persistent references to "creaming in pants" as sufficient evidence...
that you are clearly an expert in rhetoric and public speaking.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #68
80. LOL- that's a reference to Matthews, based on his reactions to Bush in the past
and it fits.

Now, how about getting over yourself.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #62
71. You're just trolling and picking a fight here.
Can't stand the fact that the guy is getting some praise, so in you come so you can piss on the thread.

Well done.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #22
86. You hate it when they like him and like it when they hate him. n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:52 AM
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121. Didn't you give up on us and leave the country? I seem to remember something about that...
... from a couple of years ago.

Hekate

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:24 PM
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61. But they're ALL his best ever! NT
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mecherosegarden Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:29 PM
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70. For what is worth... I liked it.
I am very proud to have a President who knows how to talk, who knows how to express his thoughts so well, who knows how to touch other's peoples hearts. At least, he touches mine . I don't know how to write as well as many of you but I can still do this :

K&R
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:38 PM
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79. Txs so much for the Link ~ What a Speech!


I'm proud to be an American.


:patriot:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:44 PM
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83. THE IGNORE FEATURE IS YOUR FRIEND, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
don't let the assholes take away from this moment. Put their hateful asses where they belong...on your ignore list.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:47 AM
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120. I've read this far and I have to agree: several are about to get the Iggy Prize from me...
... for being over the top obnoxious.

Hekate

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:45 PM
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84. All the hatred of Obama in this thread is DISGUSTING!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #84
90. Yes, it is..
but they've been here awhile and finally their bitter hate has rendered them impotent.
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:48 PM
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88. K&R - Thanks for the link.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:54 PM
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89. This part right here almost made me catch the spirit:
For history is filled with heroes. You may remember the stories of a grandfather who marched across Europe; an uncle who fought in Vietnam; a sister who served in the Gulf. But as we honor the many generations who have served, I think all of us - every single American - must acknowledge that this generation has more than proved itself the equal of those who have come before.

We need not look to the past for greatness, because it is before our very eyes.




SUCK IT, TOM BROKAW!!!!!!!!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:57 PM
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91. These WORDS are uber important to heal
those family and friends of the Fallen and to heal a Nation while giving encouragement and inspiration to our military.

And yes, tom brokaw needs to suck it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #89
92. Yes, that was especially pointed
Enough with the fetishization of Generation Brokaw.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:11 PM
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96. Frankly, I'm getting tired of speeches and am looking for actions nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #96
105. That's too fucking bad ..this speech wasn't for your
hatefulness. It was for the loved ones of the Fallen Soldiers, the Military, and those who want to heal from this tragedy.

And, to stop the senseless hate against innocent Muslims that would surely arise from these killings.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 05:53 PM
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135. It seems it's your hatefullness being projected
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 06:00 PM by EVDebs
Obama can give the Gettysburg Address equivalent from now until Jan 20, 2013 and until there's some actions backing up the words, I'll be voting for Dennis Kucinich.

No hate, just the facts.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 08:20 PM
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:18 PM
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100. I thought they were all the best speech ever. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:29 PM
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102. This one was very important to heal the tragic
wounds and cauterize the hate.

And, you're right..they're all the very best he has to offer at the given time.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 06:31 PM
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103. This is WHY he will be re-elected
Despite the trials and tribulations, he is a truly great and historic leader. I've been waiting for one of these historic moments and here it is. Well, Nobel was the first I guess.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:03 PM
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112. K & R! nt
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 10:09 PM
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113. K&R :) heartfelt and appropriate
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:33 AM
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116. BSister, you preach it hon! Kudos to you!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 02:40 PM
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129. It was just what those
family and friends of the Fallen, the Soldiers, and our Country needed at this time in history.

Thank you, for your support from Canada, akbacchus.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:34 AM
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117. K&R
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:58 AM
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122. A very beautiful, moving, heartfelt speech. Exactly what was needed in this moment...
... to begin to heal the divide.

Hekae

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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 09:18 PM
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132. Wow.. I'd love nothing more then to see a few Pizza's Delivered to some posters in this thread...
I'm used to seeing horrid trollish posts like this on DU.. just not from people with "1000+" after their names.

Seriously.. you can vote for Palin next time, no one can stop you. Wowzers!
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 06:07 AM
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137. The fact that many people with 1000+ posts
on here reacting to Obama in this way should tell you something.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:33 AM
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136. k&r nt
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