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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:00 PM
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"There is no health care bill worth supporting that sells out women's civil rights."
In Pelosi's House, 64 Democrats Sell Women Out
By Taylor Marsh
November 10, 2009

The first female Speaker of the House makes history by passing a health care bill that not only doesn't have a robust public option, but also sells out women's civil rights. The Republicans acted reprehensibly today, heckling women lawmakers like the chamber was a frat house. Think Progress has that story. But in the end the Stupak amendment passed, 240 yeas, 194 nays, 1 present, with the names of Dems who voted for it totaling 64; the health care bill passing 220 yeas, 215 nays. Now it's up to the Senate and the conference, because if the Stupak amendment is in the final bill it will be a setback of monumental proportions for women.

There is no health care bill worth supporting that sells out women's civil rights.

Progressives in the House should have killed the bill.

Civil rights begin with autonomy over our own body. If we don't have that we have nothing. So, to hear Rep. Clyburn talk about "privacy rights" after passing the House bill was laughable.

But at least Mr. Obama and Speaker Pelosi's Democratic House got us closer to an "historic health care win." That they did it on the backs of women's civil rights isn't mentioned, though some of us will never forget.

It's up to the Senate now and the conference to strip Stupak out, with help from Pres. Obama, of course. He will help, right?


TAYLOR MARSH

Read the complete article at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/in-pelosis-h...

- Could we support a healthcare insurance industry bill that curtails the civil rights of Black people or other minorities? -



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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:01 PM
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1. The status quo already sold them out.
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Dr Robert Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:02 PM
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2. wow, Taylor Marsh? really scraping the bottom of the barrel now, ain't ya?
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:05 PM
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3. This health care bill is a big fat wet kiss to corporations and bigots everywhere
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:19 PM
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4. taylor marsh!!??? bwahahahaha you must be running low on talking points...
what's next, play by plays of lynn samuels?

:rofl:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:34 PM
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5. OK - no health care reform
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 01:34 PM by stray cat
I'm sure we will have better luck when the GOP takes power and puts it together
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:37 PM
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7. Of course, while still keeping women "in their place." n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:36 PM
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6. Dunno...my life or this issue over abortion?! I'm sorry, I'm going with my life.
Maybe I'm selfish. But I think a few people would want a chance to live so they could repeal this amendment rather than die and it still going to pass in some form or another.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:48 PM
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9. So you expect to die if abortions are made illegal in the private insurance industry bill?
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 01:49 PM by Better Believe It
Well, I certainly hope not. And you had better not die before the insurance exchange opens up in 2013!

If you have a pre-existing condition you're not immediately covered before 2013. You'll have a six month waiting period before you're even eligible for bare bones coverage that might still bankrupt you!

Once it's in a final bill how do you think it can be repealed when the Republicans will probably make gains in the House and Senate next year?

Perhaps you can tell us what the premiums will be on the four tiers of insurance that will be available, from the bare bones coverage to the best plan.

We don't have a clue on what benefits those four tiers will include, how much the premiums will be and how much the government will contribute to the cost of those premiums .... unless you somehow have calculated what your premiums and benefits will be.


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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 03:32 PM
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10. no one's making abortion illegal. you are a bald faced liar.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:38 PM
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8. Stupak HAS to be changed but it doesn't add that much to the current stupid Hyde amendment
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 01:39 PM by uponit7771
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