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argonaut Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:45 PM
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Anyone else worried that Kucinich is setting himself up for a primary challenge to Obama in 2012?
I'm beginning to suspect he'll run on a platform of President Obama not being 'liberal' enough, to the joy of the Republican Party. Ugh.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:46 PM
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1. I'm not worried about Kucinich.
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argonaut Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:48 PM
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7. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he'd win.
But fracturing the party is rarely a good thing.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:49 PM
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10. He runs every time. He's turning into Harold Stassen.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:51 PM
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12. Nope
He is turning into Ralph Nader's minime...... :evilgrin:
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:16 PM
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51. You are exactly right and he is taken just as seriously. n/t
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:21 AM
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84. What did he get in 2008 primaries? 2%? Let him do anything he wants.
I love the guy gets out there and brings the issues to the table. I think it's great.

He's of zero political threat, however, when DEMOCRATS don't even vote for him.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:58 AM
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90. He wouldn't even be a factor. Nixon had a challenge on his right in 72 who got 15% or so in NH
and it didn't hurt him a bit. It wouldn't be like Carter v. Kennedy in 1980--Dennis wouldn't carry a single state in a primary.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:46 PM
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2. Dennis has run almost every year since I've been able to vote - and he adds color
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 12:47 PM by stray cat
but not much else each year. Dennis running for president is almost an honorary position for him isnt it?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:46 PM
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3. Dennis won't be running for President again.n/t
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:54 PM
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18. Hmm. Your crystal ball is working overtime today. n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:04 PM
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25. He's in his sixties. I doubt if he will want to go through the stresses of
campaigning only to be shut out of debates by his fellow democratic candidates who are DLCers like in the last campaign.

My crystal ball works just fine as those who know me know.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:09 PM
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28. and Nader was 70 in 2004 - didn't stop him. n/t.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:16 PM
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30. That's nonsense.
Nader ran on a third party ticket and knew he wouldn't win. He just wanted to shake up the status quo. Another reason is because Dennis won't run against Obama a sitting President. He never ran against Clinton.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:48 PM
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38. Now, that point is valid. Unlike your prior one:
"He's in his sixties. I doubt if he will want to go through the stresses of campaigning only to be shut out of debates by his fellow democratic candidates who are DLCers like in the last campaign."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:47 PM
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4. We don't have a Ted Kennedy to carry the banner
And 2012 is too far away. There is something we can do: support only those candidates that support the people.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:48 PM
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8. It would be nice to get more & better Democrats. I think we all can agree on that
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:53 PM
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17. My congressperson Carson is great. My Senator Bayh is an industry puke.
Guess who I will be voting for next year?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:11 PM
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43. What happened to Teddy will probably prevent ANY Dem from challenging a sitting Dem president
for decades to come.

Half the people who'd promised Teddy they'd back him if he ran sold out and voted for Carter, even though they knew Carter was doomed to lose if renominated.

Plus there is the legacy of how this party's handpicked convention delegates voted to lose in 1968 rather than nominate a candidate who reflected the will of the primary voters.

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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:14 PM
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44. if you think for ONE SECOND Ted Kennedy would have supported Kucinich's vote
on this bill, you may yourself have a pre-existing condition
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:04 PM
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61. Haha! Well said.
Kucinich could very well do just that (mount a primary challenge in '12), but I highly, highly doubt he'd come as close as Teddy did. Especially not after voting with the Republicans on this most important, vital issue. Because the fact is that a vote against the bill IS a vote for the Republicans, regardless of any ideological purity behind it. Shame on him for not being able to see the forest for the trees on this one! :thumbsdown:
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:09 PM
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62. Hee. Exactly. Teddy would be thrilled with this bill
But why let facts comes in the way of some good purity?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:16 PM
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45. You mean those that voted to give 38 million people insurance coverage...
as opposed to those who voted with Republicans to stay status quo?

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:47 PM
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5. No. I think DK was always planning on running. He seems to every season, which is his right n/t
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:47 PM
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6. The truth--Kucinich is NO threat to Obama's popularity...
...anywhere but here.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:49 PM
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9. Trivia question for everyone
In two presidential runs in 2004 and 2008, how many primaries and/or caucuses had Dennis Kucinich won?

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:55 PM
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19. 0?
Zeeeeero?

Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeroooooooooooo?
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:03 PM
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24. Don't You Think He Runs to get Issues before the Voters that they might not get.
Surely, with the kinds of budget he has he can't expect to win.
However, if he can get some voters & fellow candidates to think
a little more about the issues, maybe thats what he's looking for.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:50 PM
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11. Why not? New Hampshire is pretty, Iowa is pretty -- I guess -- and...
...it's a free country, it gets him out of the house, and everyone needs a hobby. I doubt all the filing fees together amount to as much as the price of a good boat, and campaigns keep a lot of chambermaids and waitresses and such employed -- good especially during a recession.

'04,... '08,... '12... it happens at four-year intervals pretty regularly. Like cicadas. Gives you a sense of the passage of time.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:51 PM
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13. Obama could kick Kooch's ass with both hands tied behind his back
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:51 PM
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14. "Worry?" Why?
I love Dennis. I don't kid myself that he'll win, but he brings things to the table that would otherwise never be considered. He has a right to run and if he does I bet it will improve the national dialog. Do you want a coronation for President Obama? I bet President Obama doesn't want one. Hard leftists help remind the party of what's possible, even if it's not possible right now. More ideas is always an improvement, it broadens the scope of thought.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:52 PM
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15. He may. And no, I'm not worried.
It will be laughable and purely symbolic as he'll get less contributions, less votes and even less attention that his last try.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:53 PM
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16. No. He'll get 1% of the vote.
Purity trolls are the teabaggers of the Left and they have even less influence.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:55 PM
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20. Nah. Not worried...even if he did decide to run.
n/t
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:56 PM
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21. He would not be a serious challenger, and would be destroyed utterly.
He poses a greater threat if he can obstruct bills in the House of Representatives.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:56 PM
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22. Maybe, if he gets enough right-wing funding a la Nader and Sharpton.
Last time he started thinking it important to run home and defend his House seat.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:08 PM
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41. Dennis is nothing like Nader or Sharpton
And there was no reason to even mention Nader in this thread.

Are you ever going to give that a rest?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:30 PM
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55. I didn't say he was...yet.
But he is like Nader now because he worked against the Democrats on a matter of degree because he felt they were not left-wing enough. Expect the cash to roll in of he challenges Obama.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:00 PM
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23. I can honestly say that this is one scenario that will not cost me a moment's anxiety.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:06 PM
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26. not worried at all. and why do you think the repubs would be happy about that?
If Obama is challenged from the left, it reinforces the perception that Obama is not a crazed socialist hell bent on ruining the country, which undercuts the picture the repubs are trying to paint.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:07 PM
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27. Dennis isn't an idiot
The people who agreed with him were too cowardly to vote for him last time. And he'd be close to 70 by then, which is way too old to sell yourself as an insurgent primary challenger.

Plus, he remembers how Teddy was abandoned by half the people who'd said they'd vote for him in 1980.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:24 PM
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53. He is nowhere near Ted Kennedy level as a serious candidate
Kennedy was considered a serious potential candidate in the 1970s - if he had not run in 1980, he would have had a very good shot at 1984. Kucinich has never been a serious viable candidate.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:46 PM
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67. Of course Teddy was a more viable candidate
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 05:47 PM by Ken Burch
My point was that what happened to him in 1980(when tons of people who swore they'd back him sold out and backed Carter even though they knew they were voting to nominate a sure loser)is going to be an inhibiting factor against anybody challenging a Dem president in the primaries.

I'll never forgive the Carter people for organizing those mobs in Chicago to scream "murderer, murderer" when Teddy's motorcade went through town that year. Nobody in Chicago hated Teddy before those rent-a-mobs were organized.

And then there's what happened to Bobby.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:46 AM
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80. There are two issues here - Obama is FAR more popular than Carter and
there is simply no potential opponent with the stature of Ted Kennedy. In addition, Jimmy Carter was about as far to the right as the Democratic party goes - there was more "space" on his left for a challenge than in Obama's case.

As a test of the lack of a viable opponent, think of the Democrats who would consider running if Obama announced he intended not to run in 2012 - as unlikely as that is. That should get you a full list of candidates, viable and not. Look at that list and then generously identify the ones who would be potentially viable (eliminate Kucinich here), who are to the left of Obama (eliminate Clinton, Warner Bayh here) and finally of those still remaining would consider running against Obama (eliminate Kerry, who has been a strong Obama ally, and Gore, who didn't want to run in the open 2004 or 2008 races, here).

Now consider in addition, that Obama is considerably more popular then Jimmy Carter. Far above 50% of Democrats approve of him. There is NO ONE in the Democratic party who, upon announcing a challenge to Obama, would have above 50% of Democrats approving of them - including ones who have high approval ratings now.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:15 AM
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86. I agree that Obama is much more popular than Carter
My point was that what happened to Teddy when he had optimum conditions to mount such a challenge would serve as a cautionary tale to anyone considering an anti-Obama candidacy in 2012, especially since Obama is likely to remain more popular than Carter going into that campaign. The one thing that could seriously dent that popularity would be if he were insane enough to actually go through with an escalation in the unwinnable Afghan war. That would have to lead to a tragic LBJ finale for the man.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:36 AM
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87. Good points - and LBJ was challenged in a primary
I suspect that LBJ, if he had a JFK personality, would have won the challenge and unified the party. Also, there were early LBJ/RFK tensions then. It is true that no one would have predicted McCarthy. Not to mention, LBJ was not defeated, but opted out after winning NH. In that scenario, who could play the McCarthy/RFK role? Feingold, could be like a McCarthy, but not an RFK. If there was a major escalation and it went as badly as many think it would, that would change the dynamics of who would lead a charge. I don't see it happening, but I doubt anyone in 1965, after LBJ's landslide did either.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:14 PM
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29. DK alienated a lot of his own liberal base last night. Not worried.
He's going to retain and strengthen our party's equivalent to the teabaggers (though I admit they will have stronger grammar skills).
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:18 PM
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31. no
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:18 PM
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32. Let him run. I don't see a problem. My ovaries already won't for him after yesterday's vote. n/t
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:19 PM
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33. Not Kucinich, but I am afraid Lieberman will run for president as an independent.
If he gets a challenger at home just to stick it to all of us.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:05 PM
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40. Would the GOP pull its ticket if he did?
n/t.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:01 PM
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65. Joe Lieberman?! He will have trouble winning reelection here in CT.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:19 PM
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71. Who would vote for him? Both sides hate the guy.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:26 PM
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72. They still voted for McCain... right? nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:51 AM
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82. Yeah - but the Republicans will have a candidate of their own in 2012
They only like Lieberman as a Democrat.

McCain for years was the Democrat's favorite Republican - yet did he win tons of Democratic votes?
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:21 PM
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34. Worried?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Uh, no.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:21 PM
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35. I hope so - it will make Obama appear more moderate and push his
approval ratings up even more.


Go Dennis Go.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:25 PM
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36. Kucinich 2012!!!!
:woohoo:
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:39 AM
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92. Kucinich 2012 indeed
the rest can accept the status quo as a true Democratic candidate.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:30 PM
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37. Ooo, yes, I'm very concerned.
Thank god he didn't run in 2008.

:crazy:
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:55 PM
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39. Super Worried.
:rofl:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:08 PM
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42. No.
If he runs, he'll have my support, as always.

I'm not worried about it.

Whether or not he runs, Obama is no liberal, and I've always known that.

Which is why I never wanted him in the WH.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:21 PM
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46. He has about as much chance as Harold Stassen once did
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:22 PM
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47. If he does, I'll be his first volunteer.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:51 PM
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48. I doubt it, but I hope so.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:51 PM
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49. Oooh, he might get five percent of the primary vote!
:scared:
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:12 PM
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50. Then we couldl have a 5 party free for all in 2012
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 03:31 PM by Garam_Masala
1. Obama (democratic)
2. Pawlenty (repuglican)
3. Palin (CONservatives)
4. Nader (Greens)
5. Kucinich (Progressives)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:18 PM
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52. No - He had almost no support in two OPEN nomination races
There is no way that he would come close to being a threat to an incumbent President.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:27 PM
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54. He's not going to run against Obama, or anyone else...
A good friend of mine knows Dennis personally, and he's told me that DK wants to be Senator...

Not President.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:52 PM
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59. This is correct.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:32 PM
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98. The deadline to file to run for the Senate is less than two months away
If Kucinich is actually going to run, he needs to get going on his campaign.

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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:31 PM
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56. Everyone seems to ignore the fact that he asked his supporters
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:54 PM
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60. In Iowa, and in New Hampshire
He supported Obama when Joe Biden was still running against him. He was also out of the race before the third State. In first, out first.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:31 PM
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57. Why would that worry anyone...Kucinich can't win a dogcatcher seat outside
a slim area in northeast Ohio.

:rofl:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:33 PM
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58. This isn't about DK.
It's about corporations and what the Governments job is.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:10 PM
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63. Yea, good luck to him with that
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:42 PM
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64. Did you notice that what the House passed bore no resemblance to Kennedy's HELP bill?
Do you think this was only a coincidence?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:17 PM
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66. Worried about a guy who came in 12th out of 11 in 2008?

He never gets more than 3% in any primary... ever.


And after yesterday, that percentage isn't going up anytime soon.
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ProleNoMore Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:49 PM
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68. I'll Vote For Dennis Over Obama Any Day Of The Week!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:52 PM
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69. No. He is highly sensitive to corporate bullshit, and this bill is full of it.
His vote against it is one of the very few principled ones.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:03 PM
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70. He can try, but he won't win Independents and Moderates. n/t
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 06:04 PM by CakeGrrl
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ProleNoMore Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:28 PM
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73. I Am A Progressive Independent - He Has My Vote
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:19 PM
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77. I am independent progressive
Dennis is still my hero and will always have my vote. To me he is a voice of reason.

I know some of you look at him as "voting with Republicans", but that's not what he was doing. He thinks for himself. He sees things for what they are.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:30 PM
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74. Yeah, he might even get more than the .01% of the vote he got in 2008
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 06:30 PM by WeDidIt
:eyes:

I'd welcome him doing something stupid like that because he'd get shit assignments to committees from then on...

if he isn't defeated in a primary of his own, that is.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:56 PM
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75. I hope he does. He'll get my vote.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:58 PM
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76. Why should that be a worry?
The Democrats have already proven they aren't smart enough to nominate Dennis Kucinich.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 09:12 PM
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78. even if he was , its not somehing to worry about.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:03 PM
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79. Of course he'll run, he likes the attention.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:48 AM
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81. Not worried at all. I think he will, and
he will lose triumphantly just like every other Presidential run he has made.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:17 AM
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83. Why would I worry about a real Dem going to the WH?
I worked for DK in 2004 ~~ maybe things would have been different if he had won.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:21 AM
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85. The Question Is: Will Obama Face A Primary Challenger In 2012?
Suppose we don't want to go there . . .
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:46 AM
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88. No. Even if he decides to run, he won't make any kind of impact.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:56 AM
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89. Worried? No. If he challenges Obama he will lose easily.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:29 AM
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91. Yeah, he'll run again and get the usual 3% and get his ass kicked
A challenge from Kucinich is like a worm trying to cross a busy highway.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:40 AM
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93. At the rate Obama is going, I certainly hope someone does.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:53 AM
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95. And as much as I love Kucinich
-- I voted for him in the primary when it didn't count -- if you think he stands a chance in hell in getting elected president, you're seriously deluded.

His voice is needed because it's the direction we need to move, but he would *NEVER* win on the national stage. I refuse to give the GOP more time to do further damage the country by running unelectable candidates in the name of idealistic purity.
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Leo The Cleo Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:44 AM
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94. Why not?
The primary challenge might be nice.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:56 AM
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96. Wow. An entire strawman thread.
It is hugely unlikely that Kucinich will run against Obama. Chances almost nil.

I'd be more worried about some other left/progressive coming out of nowhere and getting some attention. But even that is pretty unlikely.

The political reality is that progressives will have no real choice other than Obama again in 2012.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:01 PM
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97. OF what concern would that be?
He presses some issues, pushes Obama to the left a tad, and we all go about our business.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:40 PM
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99. Worried? No. Amused? Yes.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:14 PM
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100. LOL ROFL...
let him try, it'll be a gas... :rofl:
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:17 PM
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101. I won't vote for him.. he's the same as the Blue Dogs in my eyes..
at least regarding this issue. I don't give a shit what your "principals" are behind a vote.. a No is a No is a NO.

So, i find it amusing to see all of the DUers applauding Dennis, and screaming at the Blue Dogs in the same posting.

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