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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:25 AM
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The Democratic Party leadership in Congress is to the right of the public on health care
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 10:32 AM by Better Believe It
Some posters have suggested that liberals and progressives are out of touch with middle class and poor working people, that we are pushing too hard, too fast and are way too left on issues like universal health care.

This idea is pure nonsense, or should I be less diplomatic and call it pure bull shit?

Polls have shown that most people want a strong public option and also support an expansion of Medicare, Medicare for All.

One wouldn't know that by looking at the weak ineffectual health care bills proposed in Congress, bills that appear to have been written by the private health insurance industry and big Pharma, legislation that amounts to a huge handout to the "for profit" health care industry.

The Democratic Party leadership in Congress has demonstrated once again that they are to the right of the general public and closer to the Republican Party on the big issues like health care and the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan.

How many times in past American history have conservative political forces urged the people to take it easy, go slow and accept "incremental" changes that might result in meaningful changes that you won't live long enough to see or benefit from?

The anti-war Vietnam movement was urged to shut up and stop marching by Republican and Democratic leaders in the 60's and early 70's because the public allegedly supported that war. What a lie that was! And nearly 60,000 U.S. troops and over 1 million Vietnamese died as a result of bi-partisan support for that criminal war.

During the late 50's and early 60's civil rights activists were urged to take it easy by alleged supporters in Congress. These politicians insisted that legislation proposed by civil rights leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King could only be achieved incrementally, one tiny step at a time. But, the civil rights movement and protests grew and involved millions until the Civil Rights and Voting Right acts were passed in a single year!

And we've always heard these political conservatives (now called moderates or centrists) urge the labor movement, women, minorities, gays and anti-war activists to shut up, sit down and let the politicians work on our behalf without any mass pressure for change.

But, that's not the way change, real change, change we can believe in is actually achieved.

It's time to build progressive mass movements again. The politicians, Democratic and Republican, need to feel the heat.



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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:31 AM
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1. The only right the Political "leadership" is concerned with is Corporate "rights" to profits at our
expense
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:31 AM
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2. aim low, settle for even less. ok, let's say its only step one? If current leadership
is not willing to aim high and settle for more, how can we find leaders who will? Nag the current ones? Replace them?
Perpetuation of the Bush secret society rules is not much change really, so far.

We are working on getting rid of our local repub congressman. Almost had him in last year's Obama personality election.
Not sure we can do it next year if all those fair weather Obama fans stay home like they did last week. The nuts and bolts of politics and actual policy changes do not interest the fair weather People Magazine style personality voters, unfortunately.

Msongs
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:32 AM
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3. And the bill passed by only 2 votes last night









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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:04 AM
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5. Yea, its sad but true. Getting something more progressive passed is near impossible right now.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:27 AM
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8. Not enough Democrats in Congress? How many do ya need?
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:47 AM
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9. The Democratic party is not and never has been an exclusively progressive party.
Its a big tent party that progressives tend to support.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:02 AM
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4. By "party leadership", do you mean Pelosi and Reid?
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 11:09 AM by jefferson_dem
Both are outspoken advocates for the public option. Polls have shown that's what the public wants. I haven't seen evidence supporting your "medicare for all" claim.

Whatever... Policy does not always mirror public opinion exactly. If you don't understand that, I recommend you review American Politics 101.

UPDATE: I stopped reading your rant at the "weak ineffectual" part. You are beyond rational discussion on this topic.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:05 AM
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6. The Democratic leadership in Congress is to the right
of the public on almost everything. They are the softer face of our right-wing oligharchy.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:08 AM
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7. Nevermind.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 11:08 AM by jefferson_dem
Cheers! :hi:
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