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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:43 AM
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Freeps just make shit up...
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 12:17 PM by and-justice-for-all
If you have anything to debunk this trite, please post it. I am doing the research right now, to find the correct information to hit him with rather then just an opinionated reply.

How it is posted here is how it was received.
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"Iam having a civil discussion with you,,apparentley your afraid of the truth!!So lets see the unemployment rate continues to climb,,58% of Americans dissaprove of socialised healthcare,,Obama still hasnt addressed Afghanistan,(more Americans dying),General Motors continues to FAIL!!,,so does Chrysler,,More bailed out banks continue to hand out millions in bonuses,,(The ones Obama promised wouldnt!!),,the billions of TAXPAYERS dollars have NOT created enough jobs to stimulate the economy,(more Goverment waste),,so as iam sitting here typing this,do my critisims make me patriotic like you??,,or am I just blinded by THE FACTS!!,,also Deutschland has a 36% immigration rate to America,which isnt too bad,considering only .05% of Americans apply for citizenship to any Eroupean country!!,,as far as my temper tantrums??YOU AINT SEEN SHIT YET!!,,DAMN now I FEEL PATRIOTIC!!Thank God I have the FREEDOM to be who I want to be!!,,and so do you!!"

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My reply:

Current Unemployment rates are clearly due Bush policies and reaganomics, some can not seem to see that for its obviousness. Remember when Bush and Bernake started the whole Bank Bail out thing....

articles.moneycentral.msn.com/.../BushBernankeAndABadBailout.aspx
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22705103/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/business/16fed.html?_...

58% do not disapprove of Socialized health care, tell that to all the people who are already on Government run health care..Medicare. Can you send me a link to the polls that show 58% of us disapprove of universal health care?

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1382

Since your so dead set against socialism, which I am a Democratic Socialist, you would be for privatizing the Police and Fire Departments, ending Medicaid and Medicare (there by tossing millions of elderly and handicapped under the bus, for profit of course), you will no longer be driving on any of the roads since they were laid with Socialism. I would assume you will not be collecting your unemployment either, since that is socialism and you hate that. All Social programs are in fact Socialism, so if you ever need food stamps because you hit bottom, do not bother getting them, because you are against socialism. There is a rather long list of Socialized programs in the US, perhaps, since your so against Socialism you should buy yourself that plane ticket. You might be happier is Somalia.

Afghanistan is bullshit, we should not even be in the middle east for anything. I disapprove of all war mongering and its funding.

"the billions of TAXPAYERS dollars have NOT created enough jobs to stimulate the economy"
LOL, uh yeah, because there is not such thing a magic.

"General Motors continues to FAIL!"
GM is in reform and as far as I am concerned, if your to big to fail then your to big to exist.

"Deutschland has a 36% immigration rate to America" Link please? The CIA factbook has the German population estimated in 2008 at 82,369,552 so if 36% of all them decided to pack up and move or even apply for immigration that would mean that last year 29,653,039 Germans moved to the US.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-fact... /

"do my critisims make me patriotic like you??"
You assume I hate America because I see the error of my countries ways, that America is not perfect. You act as though 'your America' or your idea of America has been taken from you. You do not see it as I do, you think your are trying to rescue some one who has been kidnapped or that you have been robbed. I do not see it that way, so my idea of patriotism is not like that of yours.

"temper tantrums??YOU AINT SEEN SHIT YET!!," Hilarious to the last.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:45 AM
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1. correct the grammar, spelling, and punctuation
that would be a great start
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:49 AM
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2. I am not correcting his grammer and such...nt
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:50 AM
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3. Start off asking
where he finds 58% against public health care. The post the numerous polls that put that lie to bed.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:55 AM
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8. I will do that..nt
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:50 AM
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4. make him provide links and back up his crap nt
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One of Many Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:52 AM
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6. +1
+1
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One of Many Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:51 AM
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5. Poll
I don't know much about this school and it's polling chops but it may help - http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1382
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:52 AM
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7. They tend to be one of the better polling outfits n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:55 AM
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9. Funny how they only seemed to notice our problems after Obama was sworn in.
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 11:56 AM by Ganja Ninja
Of course any attempt to right the ship is met with cries of nazi/socialism/islamofacisism/obamunisum or other nonsensical gibberish.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:58 AM
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10. So according to your whacko here
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 11:59 AM by sharp_stick
36% of Germans immigrate to the US? I don't recall that much German being spoken around me.

The CIA factbook has the German population estimated in 2008 at 82,369,552 so if 36% of all them sauerbraten loving folks decided to pack up and move or even apply for immigration that would mean that last year 29,653,039 Germans moved to the US.

You'd think that we might notice just over 29 million people showing up all at once.

Whoever you're talking with isn't even trying to make their argument sound sane, are you sure it's a real freeper and not someone playing a game? This guy is dumb but that seems to be par for the course with them.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 12:11 PM
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11. Yeah, it is a dude I use to work with...
I never realized how off the cliff he was, never appeared that way to me.

He rattled off some insanity about some bill before he left, some delusional nonsense about Obama take over something or another. I looked it up and he was taking a little bit and making it out to be this huge concern for our liberties..

I think he is a Libertarian nut job.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 12:44 PM
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12. "critisims" ?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:35 PM
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13. Freeps should have no problem with Afghanistan
They were for that and for Iraq! This freep is just being anti-Obama. Freepers are always for war!
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:51 PM
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14. Look, these people think saying it over and over makes it true.
Just tell him he's a stupid lying sack of shit and be done with it. You aren't reaching him with truth or logic so any energy expended is wasted.
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