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Poll question: Would Terry McAuliffe have won in Virginia?
:shrug:

Creigh Deeds lost in his 2005 race for VA Attorney General while Tim Kaine won at the top of the ticket.

Poll result (87 votes)
Yes (12 votes, 14%)Vote
No (65 votes, 75%)Vote
Indeterminable (10 votes, 11%)Vote
Other(!) (0 votes, 0%)Vote

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   No. And neither would Moran. Kaine won because Kilgore insulted voters last week of the campaign.  Captain Hilts   Nov-04-09 02:05 PM   #1 
   Maybe but why can't VA get a good liberal to run as a Dem?  Jennicut   Nov-04-09 02:06 PM   #2 
   Yes. Conservative is the default. Ask Henry Howell supporters. nt  Captain Hilts   Nov-04-09 02:06 PM   #3 
   Up until Obama took the state, it'd been decades since it turned blue.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Nov-04-09 02:07 PM   #4 
   Oh well. We did our best then.  Jennicut   Nov-04-09 02:09 PM   #8 
   Yes. Including the military who saw the wars badly managed. nt  Captain Hilts   Nov-04-09 02:14 PM   #11 
   Tell that to Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, and Mark Warner  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-04-09 02:11 PM   #9 
      Webb's opponent committed political suicide. Being a Marine and Reagan Admin official also helped.  Captain Hilts   Nov-04-09 02:13 PM   #10 
      All the other Republcians were afraid to run against Warner  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-04-09 03:10 PM   #28 
      None of whom I'd call a "Strong Liberal"  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Nov-04-09 02:14 PM   #12 
      But they did turn the state blue  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-04-09 02:16 PM   #13 
         Yes, but a sickly shade of greenish corporate-blue at the expense of the Working Class. n/t  ShortnFiery   Nov-04-09 02:32 PM   #24 
            The working class elected these guys  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-04-09 03:10 PM   #29 
               All the more tragic.  ShortnFiery   Nov-04-09 10:27 PM   #35 
               Working class?  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-04-09 11:11 PM   #37 
      Yes, we're all in love with conservative blue dogs within our party.  ShortnFiery   Nov-04-09 02:30 PM   #21 
         For some reason voters seem to like them  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-04-09 03:08 PM   #27 
   The state is chock full of fundies and military personnel  depakid   Nov-04-09 02:43 PM   #25 
      This Virginian isn't a fundie. No military in my immediate family.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Nov-04-09 09:42 PM   #33 
   No and he'd make us all embarrassed  AllentownJake   Nov-04-09 02:08 PM   #5 
   I find a 19% loss rather embarrassing  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-04-09 02:23 PM   #17 
      Well do that and have Terry on Morning Joe the next day  AllentownJake   Nov-04-09 02:30 PM   #19 
         What bad economy? Obama has this well in hand! Happy days are here again!  amandabeech   Nov-04-09 07:57 PM   #31 
   He'd have done a lot better than Deeds.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Nov-04-09 02:08 PM   #6 
   I've lived in Virginia  countingbluecars   Nov-04-09 02:09 PM   #7 
   I agree with you  Frances   Nov-04-09 02:21 PM   #15 
   I remember in the early 80's  countingbluecars   Nov-04-09 02:45 PM   #26 
   Most of my long term Dem friends sorta looked upon  Thothmes   Nov-04-09 07:52 PM   #30 
   Probably not, but it would have been a Hell of a lot closer. nt  onehandle   Nov-04-09 02:20 PM   #14 
   Probably not, but he would have run a real campaign  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-04-09 02:22 PM   #16 
   No, but JIM MORAN would have brought out our base. Too bad that carpetbagger McAulliffe ...  ShortnFiery   Nov-04-09 02:29 PM   #18 
   Brian Moran was running in the primary, not Jim.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Nov-04-09 09:44 PM   #34 
   Oops! Thanks. I stand corrected.  ShortnFiery   Nov-04-09 10:33 PM   #36 
   That's exactly what happened.  AspenRose   Nov-05-09 12:39 AM   #39 
   Nah, McDonnell was too good a candidate.  argonaut   Nov-04-09 02:30 PM   #20 
   Even with his thesis? It should have been his "Macaca" moment  PBS Poll-435   Nov-04-09 02:31 PM   #23 
   He would have lost AND embarrased the party.  Renew Deal   Nov-04-09 02:30 PM   #22 
   He was trounced in the primary and would have fared  saltpoint   Nov-04-09 09:31 PM   #32 
   Maybe, maybe not, but he would have been a better candidate... nt  RollWithIt   Nov-04-09 11:18 PM   #38 
   Terry and any other Democrat would have run into the same problem  TheWebHead   Nov-05-09 01:20 AM   #40 
   Snuffleuphagus McAuliffe? nope.. he's a greasy guy..too "connected"  SoCalDem   Nov-05-09 01:24 AM   #41 
   Carpetbagging snakeoil saleman is a hard persona to diowon  Perky   Nov-05-09 06:55 AM   #42 
   unsure now; but i'm leaning toward no...  Blue_Tires   Nov-05-09 02:00 PM   #43 
   Possibly...he certainly would have come closer...nt  S_E_Fudd   Nov-05-09 02:12 PM   #44 
 
Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:05 PM
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1. No. And neither would Moran. Kaine won because Kilgore insulted voters last week of the campaign.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM by Captain Hilts
I would have much preferred Moran.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM
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2. Maybe but why can't VA get a good liberal to run as a Dem?
Is it just too conservative there?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM
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3. Yes. Conservative is the default. Ask Henry Howell supporters. nt
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:07 PM
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4. Up until Obama took the state, it'd been decades since it turned blue.
So, yeah, it's too conservative. It's a borderline state, frankly, that has a lot of rural voters and a lot of defense contractors in the north.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:09 PM
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8. Oh well. We did our best then.
They must have really been fed up with Bush in 2008.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:14 PM
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11. Yes. Including the military who saw the wars badly managed. nt
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:11 PM
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9. Tell that to Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, and Mark Warner
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:13 PM
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10. Webb's opponent committed political suicide. Being a Marine and Reagan Admin official also helped.
Mark Warner ran against a completely disgraced Gilmore.

Elections aren't a total meritocracy. Stuff just happens.
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 03:10 PM
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28. All the other Republcians were afraid to run against Warner
And don't forget that he was elected Governor before he defeated Gilmore for the Senate seat.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:14 PM
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12. None of whom I'd call a "Strong Liberal"
Mind you, I like all of them, but they're not exactly DU All Stars, so to speak. So I stand by my comments.
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:16 PM
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13. But they did turn the state blue
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Nov-04-09 02:32 PM
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24. Yes, but a sickly shade of greenish corporate-blue at the expense of the Working Class. n/t
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 03:10 PM
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29. The working class elected these guys
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35. All the more tragic.
Blue dogs are turning ghoulish GREEN for GREEDY.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 11:11 PM
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37. Working class?
You mean all the lobbyists, "defense" contractors and CIA scumbags who make up the population of Northern Virginia?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Nov-04-09 02:30 PM
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21. Yes, we're all in love with conservative blue dogs within our party.
:eyes:
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 03:08 PM
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27. For some reason voters seem to like them
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:43 PM
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25. The state is chock full of fundies and military personnel
Not to mention it straddles Appalachia.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 09:42 PM
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33. This Virginian isn't a fundie. No military in my immediate family.
To win in VA, Dems have to run as "centrists", unfortunately. When Mark Warner ran for governor, he got a lot of support not only from Dems, but Republicans, too (I remember seeing Sportsmen for Warner stickers).
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Nov-04-09 02:08 PM
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5. No and he'd make us all embarrassed
Deeds was a bad candidate but Terry's antics on the national scene for six months is not what anyone wants.
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17. I find a 19% loss rather embarrassing
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19. Well do that and have Terry on Morning Joe the next day
drinking rum. When you are the incumbent party in a bad economy and your opponent's bumper sticker says Bob for Jobs...you are going to lose.
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31. What bad economy? Obama has this well in hand! Happy days are here again!
I sure as he!! hope that my subject line is true in 2010, or we will have more Deeds on our hands.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:08 PM
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6. He'd have done a lot better than Deeds.
At least he would've run a far better campaign. I'm not sure he would've won, but it certainly would've been a lot closer.
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7. I've lived in Virginia
for over 30 years. No way McAuliffe could have won.
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Frances (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:21 PM
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15. I agree with you
I'm old enough to remember when Virginia closed their public schools rather than integrate them.

So, although Virginia has come a long way, especially because of the growth of northern Virginia, the Dems won't win unless they have first rate candidates and politicians like Mark Warner.
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26. I remember in the early 80's
there was a restaurant near where I was living that refused to serve black people! This was near northern Virginia.

You are right. It takes a first rate Democratic candidate to win in Virginia.
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 07:52 PM
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30. Most of my long term Dem friends sorta looked upon
McAuliffe as a political carpet bagger. He had no experience in Virginia politics.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:20 PM
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14. Probably not, but it would have been a Hell of a lot closer. nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:22 PM
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16. Probably not, but he would have run a real campaign
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18. No, but JIM MORAN would have brought out our base. Too bad that carpetbagger McAulliffe ...
split the LIBERAL vote and left conservative Deeds as our nominee.

Terry McAuliffe? Take him! Please. :puke:
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34. Brian Moran was running in the primary, not Jim.
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36. Oops! Thanks. I stand corrected.
:blush:
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39. That's exactly what happened.
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argonaut (103 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 02:30 PM
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20. Nah, McDonnell was too good a candidate.
It probably would have less of an embarassing landslide, though.
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23. Even with his thesis? It should have been his "Macaca" moment
:shrug:
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22. He would have lost AND embarrased the party.
At least Deeds only did one of those.
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32. He was trounced in the primary and would have fared
little or no better than Deeds in the general.

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38. Maybe, maybe not, but he would have been a better candidate... nt
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40. Terry and any other Democrat would have run into the same problem
independents... $700b bank bailout, $800+ billion stiumulus, $1.1 trillion proposed healthcare, cap & trade ($???b) and trillion dollar budget deficits for many years to come. 2009 should have been about lowered expectations and modest proposals with a heavy dose of economic realism... it wasn't. And if this behavior continues in 2010, expect those who participated to be steamrolled.
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41. Snuffleuphagus McAuliffe? nope.. he's a greasy guy..too "connected"
and irritating as hell to watch..Who would want a governor like that?
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42. Carpetbagging snakeoil saleman is a hard persona to diowon
I personalty like Terry but hie ebullient positivism seems contrived.
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43. unsure now; but i'm leaning toward no...
that is certainly what i thought during the primary...
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44. Possibly...he certainly would have come closer...nt
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