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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:21 AM
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Times UK: Obama’s Olympic failure will only add to doubts about his presidency
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_amer...


There has been a growing narrative taking hold about Barack Obama’s presidency in recent weeks: that he is loved by many, but feared by none; that he is full of lofty vision, but is actually achieving nothing with his grandiloquence.

Chicago’s dismal showing yesterday, after Mr Obama’s personal, impassioned last-minute pitch, is a stunning humiliation for this President. It cannot be emphasised enough how this will feed the perception that on the world stage he looks good — but carries no heft.

It was only the Olympic Games, the White House will argue — not a high-stakes diplomatic gamble with North Korea. It is always worthwhile when Mr Obama sells America to the rest of the world, David Axelrod, his chief political adviser, said today. But that argument will fall on deaf ears in the US. Americans want their presidents to be winners.

Mr Obama was greeted — as usual — like a rock star by the IOC delegates in Copenhagen — then humiliated by them. Perception is reality. A narrow defeat for Chicago would have been acceptable — but the sheer scale of the defeat was a bombshell, and is a major blow for Mr Obama at a time when questions are being asked about his style of governance.

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:22 AM
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1. Times = Right Wing Crap Rag.
I'm more interested in what the Guardian has to say.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 07:54 PM
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22. EXACTLY - TImes is Conservative don't believe their cr*p
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:26 AM
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2. .
:popcorn:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:27 AM
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3. Does seem to have been a tactical error
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 11:07 AM by dipsydoodle
as much as I hate to say so. The USA's "no fly list" etc probably didn't help their cause.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 03:50 PM
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21. That's a very good point. nt
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:28 AM
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4. Yes, Americans must win at any cost to the world! Is that not what got us in the current mess
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 10:28 AM by Jennicut
of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the financial mess?
Putrid analysis.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:28 AM
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5. How shocking that this would come from the Times.
No, not really. :eyes:
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:30 AM
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6. People are fickle
especially in the US. Instant gratification and all that. So he took a risk and it failed. That's okay. The risk he took wasn't life threatening. Can't win 'em all, huh?
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:31 AM
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7. The IOC didn't want it to go to the US. Period. Even manipulating the vote from Africa, was reported
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:32 AM
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8. Typical spin from the Murdoch press
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:32 AM
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9. Since when have we
held any Prez accountable about the location of the Olympic Games? What a load...............
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:38 AM
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10. ah, the Murdoch press speaks....
n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:39 AM
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11. Thats the most ridiculous thing I've read since well
yesterday
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:59 AM
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12. The AP claimed this has killed his presidency and all of his policy initiatives.
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 11:01 AM by NYC Liberal
Seriously!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:06 AM
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13. That's so silly. What about all the other leaders who went? Are THEIR roles in question now?
Too too silly.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:39 AM
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14. Oh puh-leese
The Olympic Committee was probably reminded of the last two times the Olympics were on American soil and what grand clusters of FAIL they were.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 12:03 PM
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16. AFAIK, both LA and Atlanta profited...
how are you defining "grand clusters of FAIL" in this context? No snark - just would like you to clarify your statement.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:43 PM
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24. Atlanta had a bomb?
:shrug:
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 12:02 PM
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15. My response to this thread...
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 02:36 PM
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17. Such bull crap, who cares what they think!!
I don't believ there has ever been this kind of dicussion over Olympic picks ever!!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 02:46 PM
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18. LAME. Complete nontroversy (nt)
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 03:21 PM
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19. Time will tell how accurate--or silly this article really is.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:13 PM
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23. Yeah, you'll have to wait all the way until Monday afternoon
By then, Olympalooza will be dead.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:54 PM
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25. Yeah, probably not here though. If there is a wingnut talking point out there, you'll hear about it
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 08:59 PM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
on DU until the end of time...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 03:24 PM
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20. Okay, I'm just going to let it out..
Fuck the "humilation" meme and fuck those who are pushing it.

Stupid jealous wags. Fucking Fail Pushers.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:41 PM
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26. Not to me and some others I know.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:45 PM
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27. Making a mountain out of a ....

Let's see. Where would the most sexiest place be to hold the olympics, RIO, MADRID, TOKYO, chicago. I'll blame it on rio baby.

This is no big deal. P ah leeeeeze.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:52 PM
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28. No.
Obama did not fail here. He, and the rest of the US team, gave it their best effort. We lost. It happens. Time to move on. This is not a story. It has nothing to do with how Obama governs.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:57 PM
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29. Complete garbage.
:thumbsdown:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:00 PM
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30. Remember folks, Murdoch owns that paper
so consider the source.
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