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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:09 PM
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Closing Guantanamo behind schedule - 3 more leave today
Two related Guantanamo stories, 3 detainees released today, GB will not be closed by deadline:





Guantanamo Bay prison 'will not be closed by Barack Obama's January deadline'



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/...

An unnamed White House told ABC that "not every" detainee will be removed in time, though it is hoped the numbers will "dwindle substantially" from the current 220.

There has been a growing assumption that the administration would not meet its target given the difficulties faced in relocating inmates from the controversial detention centre at the US naval base in Cuba. The Obama administration is said to now regret its earlier decision to proclaim it would close the facility within a year of the president taking office.

According to the Washington Post, Greg Craig, the chief White House legal adviser to the president who strongly pushed setting a firm date, will be found a new job before long. He was said to be no longer in charge of the issue.

Mr Obama signed the executive order closing Guantanamo two days after his Jan 20 inauguration, aiming to draw a firm line under the "war on terror" regime of George W Bush, who opened the jail in early 2002 to house terror suspects.

But only a dozen detainees have been relocated to third countries or repatriated, even though the majority of those remaining are no longer regarded as a threat by the Americans.

After years of criticising the prison for not matching international law, US allies are reluctant to take in detainees, while Washington in turn is prevented from sending prisoners home to countries that may torture them.

Plans to move detainees to the US have met an outbreak of nimbyism from the public and many in Congress.





Feds: 3 Guantanamo detainees transferred to Ireland, Yemen






WASHINGTON (CNN) Three detainees at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba have been transferred to Ireland and Yemen, the U.S. Justice Department said on Saturday.

Alla Ali Bin Ali Ahmed, a native of Yemen, has been transferred to the government of Yemen. A federal court in May ruled that Ahmed may no longer be detained and ordered him released from detention.

The government of Ireland got the two other transfers. Their identities were withheld for security and privacy reasons after a request from the Irish government.

The United States has worked with the governments to ensure the transfers take place under appropriate security measures and will continue to consult with these governments regarding these detainees. The Justice Department also said the detainees were approved for transfer after an interagency organization called the Guantanamo Review Task Force performed a comprehensive review of the cases.

Since 2002, more than 550 detainees have departed Guantanamo for other countries.


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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:49 PM
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1. Well, at least things are headed in the right direction
If Congress, including a lot of Democrats, wasn't so NIMBY, he probably would have been able to close Gitmo by next January but at least he's still working on it. It would've been politically *easy* for him to indefinitely delay closing Gitmo but he seems to have remained committed to closing it. It's also important that the remaining detainees are promptly adjudicated and/or released.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:55 PM
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2. yeah except now those same Democrats will crucify him for not making the deadline
and Republicans will claim this as a victory for them also.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:06 AM
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3. We'll see
The Republicans did claim "victory" for killing health-care reform in August and, well, it's not actually dead and, at least at the moment, something looks pretty sure to pass, so we all know how *good* they are at interpreting reality. Now, if Obama decides to hold off closing Gitmo indefinitely and/or adopting a more, shall we say, "Cheney-esque" mindset when it comes to GWOT, then, yeah, THAT might be looked at as a victory for them. However, I don't see either of those things happening, ESPECIALLY the second one. As far as the Democrats are concerned, I don't know how Democrats, specifically the ones whom got caught up in the "NIMBY madness" a few months ago can honestly criticize Obama for not being able to close Gitmo by his deadline since they were responsible for making it more difficult for him to do it in the first place. :shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:22 AM
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4. see how many try and stop him from moving them to high security prisons
and further slow him down.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:04 AM
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5. The best thing would be to demolish the base and hand the land back to the Cubans
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 05:07 AM by Monk06
Gitmo is an evil relic of the Monroe doctrine
of the nineteenth century. It represents the
blatant foreign occupation of Cuba by the US
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 02:48 PM
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6. morning kick
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