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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:31 PM
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THE ANSWER!!! Amend Medicare To Permit ALL Americans To Participate!!!
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 10:32 PM by DaLittle Kitty
I found this comment on The St. Petersburg Times Buzz site on line... by Single Payer advocate John Russell, MS/ARNP and former congressional candidate in Florida (2006-08). John always makes sense on on Health Care! Meow!!! :woohoo:

http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2009/09/nelson-looks-to-...

The ANSWER... AMEND Medicare to allow American citizens of ALL ages to buy-in to Medicare for a reasonable premium/fee/tax... whatever you want to call it based on a person's income. A maximum cap would ensure that proportionally there would be a fair and reasonable cost allocation...

For example in the event Warren Buffett chose to enter into the program, Mr. Buffett would pay a premium no greater than that of say Donald Trump... given that Mr. Buffett's income is considerable greater than that of Mr. Trump.

In the event that such an amendment became law, then the fiscal viability of Medicare would be secured. Quite simply, as the population of Medicare enrollees became more age diverse, the younger enrollees who by definition would use less health care services as compared to their over age 65 counterparts would economically buttress the financial foundations of the program.

No additional taxes would be required from those citizens who choose not to enroll, while private insurance companies would be placed in a position where they would have little choice but to sharpen their pencils and compete on BOTH product AND price as they never have before.

Such a plan would ensure the financial stability of the program through the younger, healthier enrollee's premiums... while as a group consuming very little in the way of health care services.

Take the politics out of it and the discussion becomes quite rational. Save Medicare, ensure access to comprehensive affordable health care to ALL Americans while providing a new environment of competition for the private Insurance industry.

While there is considerably more to this than what I've written here, this concept is precisely the answer to our health care problems as other leaders in both health care and the political sphere have similarly advocated for.
John Russell

Read more about it here... http://www.johnrussellforcongress.com/page.asp?PageId=3...

Two perspectives on health care reform finding agreement here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f9_dnx9ThQ

Thanks to John Russell for his efforts at educating the public.... Kitty!
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:35 PM
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1. Herer is Another Comment By Russell On The BUZZ Blog for The SP Times Posted Earlier!


Ask yourself... Who do you think authored all of those 564 amendments over the course of the past week?

Certainly you cannot possibly believe the collection of "puppets" that populate the U.S. Senate could have come up with such a voluminous pile of "policy?"

Certainly not!

The Insurance, Pharmaceutical and Corporate Health Care Lobbies concocted this with the Senators sole responsibility being that of well compensated couriers... (In exchange for MEGA-Campaign Contributions!)

That IS HOW Washington "works" folks... So this piece of Corporatist offal is WHAT WE... the constituents will be left to contend with in the event this INSURANCE Industry Reform/REVENUE Enhancement Senatorial BRIBE Bill becomes law. The system and the process is fatally flawed and undeniably CORRUPT!

John Russell, 2006-08 Democratic Nominee 5th Congressional District, Fla.

Posted by: John Russell, MS/ARNP, MBA Health Systems Mgt. | September 22, 2009 at 10:43 PM
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:39 PM
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2. It seems an interesting idea.
There surely are plenty of regressive taxes around, such as sales taxes.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:39 PM
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3. I don't understand why this approach hasn't been getting more press from the beginning
Instead of endless wrangling in committee over thousand page bills, why didn't they *start* with the idea of letting the public buy into Medicare? Everyone understands it immediately, and it's hard to argue against.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:45 PM
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4. The Reason No Press... Because The Press Is Corporate And Protective Of The Interests Of BIG BizNess
The MSM has no interest in objective reporting of the news... merely pushing the "Corporatist" line... Most sophisticated propaganda machine in the history of the planet... We have little recourse against it! HC 17%v of GDP and Ins. Industry ain't gonna chance los'n this golden goose!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:56 AM
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12. Not just the press - also Congresspeople invested in the status quo...
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 07:01 AM by polichick
Friends of the healthcare industry.

The President hasn't mentioned it either ~ why not?
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:13 AM
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16. It IS The Political Quid Pro Quo!
and IT HAS NEVER BEen WORSE than it is today!!!!! :puke:
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:02 PM
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33. Interesting Find On Senator Bill Nelson, So-Called Democrat, Florida!


Interesting find.

Nelson wants to "protect" Medicare Advantage, while at the same time "protecting" Halifax Health ...
http://billnelson.senate.gov/news/details.cfm?id=317353...

"...Jeff Feasel, chief executive officer of Halifax Health, said after the luncheon he was impressed by Nelson's assessment of the nation's health care crisis and supported the senator's approach to trying to fix it."

more info on Halifax's sale of Florida Health Plan to BC/BS here:
http://www.halifaxhealth.org/aboutus/newsdetail.aspx?st...

Posted by: Sybil | September 23, 2009 at 08:26 AM
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:07 PM
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34. John Russell, Progressive And Former Dem. Candidate For Congress on The Above, Etc.


Sybil...@08:26 AM You have done the world a great service. Bill Nelson is a disgusting puppet for ANY Corporate entity he can find. 100% BOUGHT AND PAID FOR, Senator Bill "The Schill" Nelson is as challenged a legislator as one could ever find when it comes to "selling" his vote to the highest bidder.

Whether it is Banking or Insurance interests, Bill will never be found very wanting for the attention of ANY corporate lobbyist with checkbook in hand.

Many people identify themselves politically as Democrats based on certain principles one normally attributes to be fundamental to the origins of the party.

It is sad when people are deluded into supporting party flag bearers who repeatedly demonstrate a fundamental absence of commitment to basic party tenets.

The Party system in such cases represents a means of "gaming" people into voting against their self-interests. This is sadly the order of the day more often than not, rather than the exception for BOTH major political parties.

Whether it's a Ginny Brown-Waite in Congress or a Bill "The Schill" Nelson in the U.S. Senate... We the People are all the losers for their stunning lack of personal ethics, their abject incompetence and their willingness to compromise their constituents for personal ambition based on their voting records, news reports and FEC lists of contributors.
John Russell

Posted by: John Russell, MS/ARNP, MBA Health Systems Mgt. | September 23, 2009 at 07:44 PM


Senator Bill Nelson MUST be opposed in the primary for 2010 based on his complete abrogation of the fundamental principles associated with his political party.

Bill Nelson is but one example of a "political sellout" to Corporate America for personal gain at the expense of his constituents.

Clearly, the one benefit of watching the faux debate on FIRST... Health Care... errr I mean Health INSURANCE Reform has been to watch all of the "Diving for Dollars" by the politicians... (from the President on down), most willing to BACKTRACK BIG-TIME on prior campaign commitments to Universal Health Care who are instead now advocating for govt. financial support for mandated purchase of Corporate Insurance in return for those generous lobbyist campaign checks.

A SOLID argument can be made that elected officials of BOTH Major Political parties are NOT working for the best interests of the people who cast votes in each election, but rather the Corporate Lobbyists who write checks to their campaign accounts.

John Russell

Posted by: John Russell, MS/ARNP, MBA Health Systems Mgt. | September 23, 2009 at 07:58 PM
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:36 PM
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57. Nice Bunch of little d dems On The Senate Finance Comm. Today... Hmmm?
:think: then :puke:
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 02:54 PM
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67. I include the WH in that group.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:41 PM
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25. because it would all but destroy the insurance companies
and Congress works for them not for you or me.

Simple
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:10 PM
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35. You live in America and you don't understand why this isn't getting more press??!!
Please pardon the snark, but that is an unbelievable statement for anyone who has any knowledge of this "reform" effort. With over 1000 posts I assume you have been tracking this issue somewhat, but maybe I'm wrong.

On the other hand, maybe I should be thrilled to know that there is at least one innocent left in the USA.



:hi:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:04 PM
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5. I agree, that's the way to fly, but . . .
. . . it will only happen when Senators and Congressmen don't need corporate cash to relieve the itchiness in their palms.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:27 PM
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6. The Perfect is the Enemy of the Mediocre
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:32 PM
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7. That is what Senator Kennedy had promoted for since at least 2005.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:21 PM
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37. Senator Kennedy always wanted more of a single payer system
At both his funeral Mass and graveside service, the prayers the family offered were that his goal of health CARE for all come to pass. Teddy never saw it ending with just health INSURANCE - he knew that insurance does not guarantee care.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:00 AM
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39. He wanted medicare for all.
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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:55 PM
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8. Thom Hartmann was also suggesting this - Medecare part "E"
Medicare Part E: Everybody from Common Dreams 9/9/09
by Thom Hartmann

The President this morning admitted on national television that he lost control of the message with health care. It's time to reboot - and use a very, very, very simple message so all Americans can understand it.

Let's use Medicare, which nearly every American understands. Just create "Medicare Part E" where the "E" represents "everybody." Just let any citizen in the US buy into Medicare.

It would be so easy. No need to reinvent the wheel with this so-called "public option" that's a whole new program from the ground up. Medicare already exists. It works. Some people will like it, others won't - just like the Post Office versus FedEx analogy the President is so comfortable with.

Just pass a simple bill - it could probably be just a few lines, like when Medicare was expanded to include disabled people - that says that any American citizen can buy into the program at a rate to be set by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) which reflects the actual cost for us to buy into it.

Thus, Medicare Part E would be revenue neutral!

<snip> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/09-9
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:21 AM
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42. Sounds like a good idea to me BUT
The reimbursments to the providers has to get better. I asked my chiropractor what he thinks of the medicare reimbursments he gets..He says to little to be worth it, but he takes anyway and considers it "charity" work. I asked my familiy doctor if all your patients were on medicare could you stay in business? Said flat out NO....
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:27 PM
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60. Simple Enough With A Bunch Of YoungAnd WEll People In Medicare!
:think:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:34 AM
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9. That makes sense to me.
Spreading out the risk by making Medicare available to everyone solves a lot of issues in theory. I think it would work.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:12 AM
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15. John Russell Has Been Promoting This For The Past SIX Years! The DEMS Have Been Fighting Him All...
along the way. Problem is the DEMS ARE CORPORATE just like the REPUBS! The system is corrupt in that MONEY, esp. CORPORATE CA$H controls the whole show. http://www.johnrussellforcongress.com/page.asp?PageId=3...


Here is election reform which is KEY to changing this paradigm! http://www.johnrussellforcongress.com/page.asp?PageId=6...

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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:59 AM
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10. At the very least, Medicare should be the "public option"
Rather than set up a new system with the delays involved and additional bureaucracy, just make everyone eligible for Medicare/Medicaid who has been denied coverage, who is not covered under their job, who cannot get or afford insurance from the insurance industry. You know, all those people the insurance companies really don't want to cover anyway.

To spread the costs throughout a larger pool, mandate that everyone must have insurance - but if people do not go out and buy it on their own, the tax or fee that is billed by the IRS is the premium for Medicare coverage. If the insurance industry really wants to increase their coverage to more people, they can go out and push their policies at a competitive price or add extras to induce people to sign up.

This would do one of two things - force insurance companies to reduce their profit margins and make insurance more available and affordable for everyone. Or start the transition for everyone to be covered by Medicare.

:shrug:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 12:15 AM
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61. I find it "amusing" that obama claims he doesn't want to start from "scratch" all the time...
as a reason why we can't have "single payer" when IF WE USE AND EXPAND MEDICARE FOR ALL WE WILL HAVE EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA SAYS - SAYS HE "WANTS"!!!

But of course, NOBODY has pointed out Obama's HYPOCRICY on this one!!!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:09 AM
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11. The most important advantage of all--it can be implemented right away
Dems are going to get creamed at the polls if they pass a bill that has no concrete benefits for anyone until 2013. That is true no matter how "robust" the proposed public option is.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:36 AM
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17. A Very Good Bill For Those Who Might Choose To Run As Independent Progressives In 2012!
:think:
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:38 AM
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54. ABSOLUTELY!
:)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:00 AM
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13. I WISH! k&r
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:44 AM
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14. It really is the answer that makes the most right now.
I think this is the way to eventually get to a single payer system.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:08 AM
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18. YES!!!!!
:)
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MissPuddy Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:29 AM
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19. Medicare for All has not even been included in the so-called "debate"...because it would WORK
This is exactly what I was hoping the Public Option would propose--Medicare for All. I don't want to wait till I'm 65 to join up! We need open enrollment!
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 09:35 PM
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55. Yep! The Public Option MUST BE Legit!
:think:
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:43 AM
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20. K&R. Open Up Medicare! Single Payer Now! //nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:03 PM
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21. Rec. # 31. This move would be a beautiful thing.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:08 PM
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22. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, DaLittle Kitty.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:21 PM
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23. I agree competely, but....
medicare reimbursement rates need to increase. A friend of mine has his own practice and takes a loss on almost all his medicare patients. Not viable of too many of his patients are medicare.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:35 PM
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24. This is the most logical thing to do, plus it's a twofer.
With some younger and healthier people evening out the risk pool and more money coming in, Medicare would be in much better shape.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:47 PM
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26. We know this. The getting there aspect must be addressed.
At some point it is required to take a lesser evil if the best solution can't be arrived at now. There is a tolerable place between what is best and the crap we have now and I think we should fully explore the possibilities of at least getting to such a position rather than how ever many more years of this death spiral.

I first suggest fully opening the exchange and allow the regulatory reforms and competition a chance to see if any meaningful change can happen. Meanwhile, we fire up the public option for the uninsured, individual purchasers, and smaller companies which should create a decently balanced and fairly large block for purchase and service cost leverage. To complete the deal there should be a simple and clear trigger placed on the option to open it up to the exchange if the market forces predictably fail to have the needed impact for the average citizen.

Even better would be to obviously make the option a Medicaid buy in which would help stabilize the program and to have available to everyone day one but I think this could be patched up to functional if we start off with an open exchange and have the public option so we have baseline pricing. If we can get this far then either we'll end up with a reasonable private system or single payer via voting with our feet. Either way we have a framework that has the flexibility and number of people in the system to some degree to build a sustainable health care system from.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:19 PM
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27. Ram this through congress today and by the time
of the 2010 elections, no politician in the country would be able to campaign against it. It would be just as widely desired as Medicare and Social Security and the health care programs in other truly civilized countries.

I bet before France or Britain started theirs, that there were troglodytes who said it would cost too much. In those counties now it is immediate political death to suggest anything that would threaten their health care programs.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:39 PM
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31. Obama put that idea off the table from the git go
Single Payer (HR676) is Medicare for all.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:15 PM
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36. That was the problem.
If he had pushed it with only 51 votes, he would have caught flak for about 9 months. Within two years the whole country would have come to see government single payer (Medicare for all) as their god given right. Not only would we have civilized health care, the Democratic party would benefit. This pussy footing will cost us both.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:25 PM
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28. That's what HR676, Single Payer, is all about
and the viable public option is to offer Medicare to anyone that wants to enroll.

The corporate Democrats won't go for this anymore than the Republicans.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:55 AM
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41. How can we remain Democrats when Congress reps sell us out? n/t
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:55 PM
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29. This is exactly what the 'public option' should be - nothing less.
The corporatists will never allow it, unfortunately, which is why I will never vote for the lesser of two evils again.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:45 AM
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50. The "Corporatists" Will Never Allow It!
:think:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:28 PM
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:57 AM
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66. interested in electing republicans are you
?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:38 PM
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30. And, from what I understand,
since Medicare is a budget item this could be done in reconciliation. Anyone know if this is correct?
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:24 PM
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52. EXCELLENT POINT TO CONSIDER!
:think:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:47 PM
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32. A workable, common sense solution.
John Russell understands healthcare like nobody else.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:36 PM
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49. Yes He Does! You Are Right On Target Good Doctor! We Could Use You And John In DC!
:)
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:27 PM
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38. Funny I posted this suggestion on DU a while ago.
And suggested that Obama could do it with an executive order....if fell like a rock.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:54 AM
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40. That's what my BFM MD wanted
My best buddy is a family practice MD. I'd sold him on Obama. Now he's mad as hell that the Dems have provided a Republican type bill which benefits the insurance and pharmaceutical corporations.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:22 AM
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43. Baucus is channeling McCain.
If Gramps had won the election, this is the kind of bill he would be expected to introduce.

The solutions are sitting right there in front of their faces, and they have to complicate it, and turn the treasury over to the insurance companies. At least the part that Wall street didn't grab.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:27 AM
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44. K&R -- I can't fathom why THIS is not thew core of healtnh reform
It's so clearcut, and it makes practical sense.

Obama and the Democrats screwed the pooch by not using this as the starting point.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:35 AM
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45. yes, they did screw it up and continue to do so.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 03:47 PM
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58. Because THIS IS NOT About HC Reform! It IS About Preventing REAL Reform And Gifting The Insurance..
Industry!
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:16 AM
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46. OMG! Suddenly the whole picture snaps into focus!!! I've been saying "Medicare for All"...
I never thought of simply expanding Medicare to everyone! Duh!
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:02 PM
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47. Such a simple idea....
.... opposed only by the simpletons.





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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:09 PM
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48. That would be the easiest and best way to do it....nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:07 PM
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51. Medicare for all. Wow. THAT'S a new idea.
:sarcasm:

HR 676
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:15 AM
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64. LOL!
Don't you feel like that board meeting schmuck who's been suggesting the right solution all along and suddenly one of the suits "comes up with a great idea . . . " and everyone claps him on the back. Jeeezus.

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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:12 AM
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68. That IS A Very Good Point!
:)
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:47 AM
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56. kick. nt
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 05:05 PM
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59. I don't know about this.
Talk to people on Medicare and see what they think about their plan. I have two more years before I go on it and I am not looking forward to it. Sure, it is better than nothing but right now it seems my state's Medicaid may be better except when the state gets behind in paying and doctors don't want to accept it. Otherwise Medicaid allows a lot more tests and treatments than Medicare does. :shrug:
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:08 AM
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62. There other awesome thing would be that the entire infrastructure is in place.
A minimal amount of organization building and data exchange infrastructure could have the system up and running in a year or two at the most (vs. the four we are looking at now).
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:14 AM
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63. Hey Look! Halley's Comet!
That's been the obvious solution from the beginning, but it would destroy insurance companies, so it's never going to be an option. They'll do ANYTHING to stop it.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:40 AM
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65. knr!! n/t
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:21 PM
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69. This idea needs to take a hold really.
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 12:22 PM by GivePeaceAchance
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:56 PM
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70. Why not? Simple idea.
It is an existing public option. Easier to expand something that already exists than to try to create a new one.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 06:25 PM
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71. Locking
Member is no longer with us.

cbayer
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