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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:37 PM
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Patterson throws Obama Under the Bus.
Oh yeah .... he is SO outta there.

Well, this is going to make David Paterson a lot of friends in the White House, as he tries to put himself in the president's shoes:

"If you look at it from their perspective, (the Obama admin. hasn't) exactly been able to govern in the first year of their administration in the way that other administrations have, where you would have, theoretically, a period in which the new administration is allowed to pass the needed pieces of legislation."

One of the things that has made the White House angriest at Paterson is his linking his woes to the president's. The last time was about race, of course, which made it worse.

UPDATE: A White House official notes that Obama's record of passing legislation for which he's personally fought is, so far, perfect.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/Paterson_bl...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:37 PM
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1. it's Paterson
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:13 PM
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44. Revenge is a meal best served cold.
He was way too quick.
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Ivan the So-So Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:19 AM
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56. Exeryone is making that mistake, though!
Including major news sites.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:39 PM
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2. What is this guy seeing that I am not seeing about the Obama Administration.
Are we watching the same administration???
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:41 PM
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4. I don't think he is seeing much (sorry!) n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:42 PM
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6. Yes that would be the joke, that man is blind and not in the blatantly obvious way.
In the way that people chose to be.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:57 PM
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34. I know this is tacky....
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 06:58 PM by Jazzgirl
but I couldn't help but bust out laughing at that.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:41 PM
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30. Perspective is everything...
Paterson sees from a perspective clouded by hate... you and me? Well, it's probably a bright, bright, sunshiny day!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:39 PM
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3. both a political dumbass and an ineffective governor
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:41 PM
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5. (facepalm) meOW!
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:42 PM by BlooInBloo
:rofl:
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rmp yellow Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:43 PM
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7. Didn't Obama throw him first?
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:43 PM by rmp yellow
By asking him not to run again?

I wouldn't be happy if I were Patterson.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:45 PM
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9. lol, find me an article that says the President "asked" him not to run....
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:45 PM by Clio the Leo
.... now he might have SUGGESTED it. Ya know, just a friendly bit of unsolicited advice. ;)
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rmp yellow Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:48 PM
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11. New York Times
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:50 PM by rmp yellow
"The decision to ask Mr. Paterson to step aside was proposed by political advisers to Mr. Obama, but approved by the president himself, one of the administration officials said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.h...

Huffington Post:

"President Obama has asked an increasingly embattled Gov. David Paterson to bow out of the 2010 governor's race."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/obama-paterson...

Not that "request" would be any different any way.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:50 PM
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12. Point taken......
.... but it's not like the request was unwarranted now was it.

Do YOU really want Guiliani in the Governor's mansion? I think I'll pass on that one.
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rmp yellow Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:51 PM
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15. well, you think Giuliani would beat Cuomo. I think Cuomo would kick his ass
That's where the difference in opinion originates.

A battle with the extremely unpopular Patterson would doom Cuomo, you might think. I think it wouldn't.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:53 PM
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18. Yeah, but I am NEVER in favor of Dems wasting money in a primary....
.... when it can be better spent beating a Republican. Especially THAT ONE!
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rmp yellow Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:55 PM
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19. That part I agree with nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:20 PM
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24. So, get rid of the competition and let Andy save his money. NT
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:57 PM
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21. Giuliani would beat Paterson.
That's the point of all this.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:00 AM
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57. exactly...that's why we need a different Dem to run in NY...Coumo
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:47 PM
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43. The polls show
that Ghouliani would kick Paterson's ass, but Cuomo would kick ANY republican's ass!
I don't know where the polls are to be found, I only heard it on the Albany NPR affiliate, WAMC, which I trust. Not because they are NPR, but because the people who are WAMC, are great people.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:31 AM
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59. Cuomo has a lot of back up. I would vote for Cuomo hands down. No one else.
I wanted his dad to run for President. That's how much I love the Cuomo family.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:25 PM
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40. Not going to happen. He dropped out of the senate race because Clinton was going to paste him. His
appeal just isn't that broad.

My firm was polling in the state in 2000.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:03 PM
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22. Paterson threw himself under the bus..
by his actions since becoming Gov bc Spitzer resigned.

<snip>>

"And underscoring Mr. Patersons weakened status, nearly 7 out of 10 voters approved of the job Mr. Cuomo was doing as the states top law enforcement official, while only 3 out of 10 approved of Mr. Patersons performance, according to a poll in late May and early June by The New York Times, Cornell University and New York 1 News.

The possible abandonment of Mr. Paterson by some labor leaders reflects a larger anxiety among Democrats, not just over their chances of maintaining control of the governors mansion, but also over the prospect that his problems will hurt other Democratic candidates on the ballot in 2010.

One powerful labor official said he felt it was a matter of time before leaders in the party asked Mr. Paterson directly to step aside for the sake of the party.

There will be pressures from many quarters, not just labor, said the official, who did not want to be identified for fear of antagonizing the governor. Nobody wants a failed Democratic Party in New York or a Republican governor.


<more>>
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/nyregion/22unions.htm...

Blaming it on Race, too, and trying to drag the White House into it.

<snip>>

"Gov Paterson blamed a racist media Friday for trying to push him out of next year's election - launching into an angry rant that left even some black Democrats shaking their heads.

"The whole idea is to get me not to run in the primary," Paterson complained on a morning radio show hosted by Daily News columnist Errol Louis.

He suggested that Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, the country's only other African-American governor, also is under fire because of his race.

"We're not in the post-racial period," Paterson said.

"The reality is the next victim on the list - and you can see it coming - is President Barack Obama, who did nothing more than trying to reform a health care system."

Paterson said the campaign against him is being "orchestrated" by reporters who would rather make the news than report it.

But critics said the governor should blame his own blunders."


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/08/21/2009-08-21_g...

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:19 PM
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23. And lets not forget how he threw CAROLINE under the bus...
.... and I'm NOT talking about not appointing her to the Senate .... I'm talking about the WAY it was handled and the rumors HIS office allowed to circulate. Remember? They were spreading rumors that she was having marital problems.

I dont know that it's necessarily germaine to the issue, but it was still VERY poor form.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:49 PM
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32. I've been thinking about that now
that all of this is coming out..at the time I didn't see how he could talk trash about Caroline..I couldn't fathom how a respectable person could do that? :(

But, now I see he has no problem talkin' trash if he thinks it will help him get what he wants.

Incredible.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:25 PM
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41. He and Caroline were feckless there. Sad. I was rooting for her. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:59 PM
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35. Depends on who leaked the original information to the press.
If it was Paterson's people, which is my guess, then Obama didnt throw him under the bus. If Obama's people leaked it to the press, then he did.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:44 PM
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8. Patterson can't throw Obama under the bus. Obama is DRIVING the bus. n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:46 PM
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10. No, no, we're on a BOAT remember?
A big ocean ocean liner or a freighter or something. lol
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:51 PM
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16. ROFLOL
Yes!

btw Paterson threw himself under the bus with his piss poor job as Governor. Then he backed up, and drove over himself by the way he stupidly handled Kennedy, a close friend of the leader of his own party -- who just happens to be the President.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:50 PM
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13. Hmmm, I guess someone is about to be called a racist.
I just can't decide which one.

:7
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:51 PM
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14. Does Patterson know Obama is black? n/t
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:53 PM
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Well, in truth he's only half black.
;-)
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rmp yellow Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:53 PM
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17. lol nt
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:23 PM
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25. Some DUers have already called NYers racist because we don't uniformly adore Patterson
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:46 PM
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51. Yeah, I remember that thread.
It was locked.

:eyes:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:46 PM
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52. Do you deny that many NYers are racist?
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:55 PM
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20. Anyone need any more proof that Obama is wise not to back Paterson?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:25 PM
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26. It's no wonder Paterson has never won a statewide office or has little chance of doing so
He was an accidental governor and has no political skills. Pathetic.

He can f*ck off. He sounds like he'd rather drag the Dems down across the entire state.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:52 PM
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33. Yup former Senate Minority Leader has no political
skills!!! :eyes:

My advice to you is to not vote for him!

What is it forst Gillibrand isn't good enough for certaijn "democrats" now Paterson!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:17 PM
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38. They use one metric and one metric only
to judge everyone.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:23 PM
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45. Yeah, get off your freakin'
pedestal ya got yourself perched on.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:34 PM
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47. Do you
screech at your great grandkids like this?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:34 PM
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42. Actually, he was a lousy minority leader, too. But let NY Dems decide!
I'm irritated by the strong arm of the WH picking 'winners' so early in state races.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:15 PM
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37. Funny, I remember voting for him and Spitzer in 2006
on a statewide ticket.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:31 PM
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27. Patterson knows he can't win..
he is just angry that the leak got out about him stepping out of the race. I'd rather see Cuomo run against ghouliani..
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:33 PM
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28. Paterson does't have the political might to throw Obama under the bus. He's just pissing in the wind
... and he's the only one getting wet.

Must suck to be him.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:37 PM
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29. Paterson doesn't have enough political weight to even nudge Obama toward the curb
let alone throw him under the bus.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:44 PM
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31. Well if that is how you will vote in the Primary that is
your righ.... Oh yeah you are in Tennessee not New York!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:04 PM
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36. Obama has done more in his first 8 months than any President in recent memory
What the hell is he talking about??
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:23 PM
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39. Paterson is a feckless gov. but let's let NY Dems decide who they want to run against him. nt
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:29 PM
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46. Didn't Obama throw Paterson first?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:46 PM
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50. Obama didnt come out and slam him in public
Somebody leaked what Obama said regarding Paterson running, and my guess is that it was Paterson's camp.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:37 PM
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48. Obama drives the Bus. Patterson just laid down on the Freeway.
What a fucking clown!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:41 PM
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49. Gov. Paterson gets to say what he wants but traditionally someone
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 08:42 PM by saltpoint
with approval numbers as dismal as Paterson's might want to tread lightly in criticizing others' accomplishments.

Paterson is a dead man walking. Smart man, good man, I like him, but he's a goner.
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Kermit77 Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:18 AM
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53. Paterson has been great on the issue of marriage equality
Paterson has been better in some ways than Obama (certainly less timid).
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:26 AM
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54. Patterson is a loser. An asshole and a loser.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:54 AM
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55. It's going to be sad if we end up with a Republican in NY because of him
I'm not from NY, but I'll still be sad because of it.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:19 AM
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58. Yesterday's Siena poll shows that 71% of New Yorkers do not want
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 05:28 AM by saltpoint
David Paterson as their governor but instead want "someone else."

http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/Parents_and_Com...


Sixty-one percent do not feel that Paterson has the "leadership skills" necessary to run the state.

Giuliani appears to have a higher view of himself as New York's next governor than actual New York voters do, inasmuch as about half of them do not want him involved in a statewide race at all.

Giuliani would lose a general election to Andrew Cuomo:

Cuomo -- 53%
Giuliani -- 39%

Cuomo also would defeat Rick Lazio:

Cuomo -- 64%
Lazio -- 18%

Governor Paterson badly loses to Cuomo in a Democratic primary race:

Cuomo -- 66%
Paterson -- 20%

The numbers for Giuliani are not terribly encouraging. For Paterson, they're disastrous.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:56 AM
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60. His name is Paterson
One T. And it is hard for those of lesser status to 'throw Obama under the bus'. The President did that to Paterson already. Via 'unnamed sources' who were supposed to remain confidential, but whom spoke out anyway. They did not give names because doing that sort of politics in the open is self defeating. It is in fact, stupid. People here would vote the opposite of what any DC stiff tried to foist off on us, just to make the point. Outside interference is unwelcome in most places.
Of course going behind backs, speaking outside of confidence, smearing loyal Party fellows, this is what the 'faith community' does, all the time, so when Obama speaks religion, we know he supports gossip and backbiting, discrimination, harassing of those who support GLBT Equality, drug reform, in short, they will leap all over anyone who does not fall into lockstep with their atavistic, religionist, bigoted outlook on the world. Liars and backstabbers who proclaim they are too holy to allow others to have equal rights under the law. Hypocrites.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:02 AM
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61. Patterson doesn't have the clout to throw his grandmother under the bus.
But I'm sure the Rahm didn't appreciate his assholishness, and I won't be surprised if something nasty is leaked to the press about Patterson before too long.

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