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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:01 PM
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Pelosi wants public option modeled after Medicare
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:01 PM by ProSense

Pelosi nixes healthcare deal with Blue Dogs

By Mike Soraghan

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is nixing a deal she cut with centrists to advance healthcare legislation, said a source familiar with negotiations.

Pelosis decision to abandon the agreement that was made with a group of Blue Dogs to get the bill out of committee would steer health reform back to the left as she prepares for a floor vote.

Pelosi is planning to include a government-run "public option" in the House version of the healthcare bill. She wants to model it on Medicare, with providers getting reimbursed on a scale pegged to Medicare rates.

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"The Speaker is committed to having a strong public option in the House bill because it is the best way to promote competition, control cost and keep the insurance companies honest," said Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami. "The caucus continues to meet to discuss the legislation and its provisions."

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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:01 PM
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1. Love ya, Nancy!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:03 PM
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2. Really??!!! NANCY Pelosi?
Wow... :thumbsup: :applause: :applause: :woohoo:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:49 AM
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33. What a comeback, huh? Second your WOW. nt
:applause:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:56 AM
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39. Her spine seems to be doing fine today! Yea for Nancy!
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:05 PM
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3. Excellent. nt
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:13 PM
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4. K&R for Nancy
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GrilledCheeses Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 02:40 AM
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25. K&R
:)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:13 PM
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5. Son of a bitch, I feel hope again!
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:15 PM
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6. Yeah, screw the Blue Cross Blue Shield Dogs.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:48 PM
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17. +1
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:16 PM
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7. She can't do that!!
That would actually make sense! The dirty.. er, blue dogs will never allow it!
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:22 PM
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8. Maybe her purpose is to show that such a bill won't pass the house.
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 05:22 PM by BzaDem
Give the line-in-the-sand no-compromise members everything they demand, and then watch it go down in flames. That would be a powerful message to them, and force them to the negotiating table prior to the second vote.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:07 PM
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11. I think it has to do more with negotiating position in conference
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:31 AM
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29. House members who vote for a bad plan will not be elected again
and they know it. They will hold the line on what is right, what the voters in their districts want, not what some Industry vampire demands.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:41 AM
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38. Stupid post of the day award!!
I'm assuming your "line-in-the-sand no-compromise members" description is of members of the Progressive Caucus? The Progressive Caucus is the only hope we have to achieve real reform. You're hoping they are "forced" to compromise our health care away to the insurance companies? People like you are the reason there is a good chance we won't get any meaningful reform.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:25 PM
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9. Well, there's Medicare. /nt
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:59 PM
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10. Then Pelosi does NOT support HR 3200.
That's a relief.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:18 PM
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12. Go, Nancy 'tough as nail' Pelosi!She knows what will work for the American people and control costs.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:19 PM
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13. Good. It's tested and set up. What's the problem with using the system?
I couldn't figure out why they didn't say this in the beginning, or did I miss it?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:26 PM
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14. modeled after? why not just MAKE it medicare? lower the age from 65 to 0 and you're done.
ok maybe i'm oversimplifying juuuuuust a wee bit but, seriously, it doesn't have to be anywhere near as complex as some people are making it out to be.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:37 PM
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15. Far out!
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:43 PM
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16. Sounds good to me, remember to contact her, to encourage her to do more of the...
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 06:45 PM by GivePeaceAchance
same. Going off "polling report" positive and inspiring emails must make all the difference.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:53 PM
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18. THANK YOU NANCY!!!
:woohoo:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:32 PM
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19. Think I am going to send the House Dems another $25. It will be matched 2-1 to triple its impact.
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 07:42 PM by flpoljunkie

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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:16 PM
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20. wow, definitely encouraging news
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:28 PM
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21. kick for the PM crowd... nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:29 AM
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22. Me too! k*r
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 12:29 AM by autorank
In fact, I want Medicare period. One concept was to take the Medicare program, add 10% to Medicare
fees, and make that the public option. That's good for providers, who have been mightily squeezed
and it's still cheaper than anything else around. Medicare just needs a 'public option' drug benefit
and it's solid. The overhead is less than 5% and the anti-fraud program is fierce. It would be the
end of private health insurance if it were a universal option. It would have a single payer, the
feds, but the guv would be less intrusive with your doctor as Medicare doesn't do all that meddling
that private insurance does with care plans etc. Amen, lets do it!
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:19 AM
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32. Couldn't agree more! A good simple interim step...
Advocated by Thom Hartmann and others would be a Medicare buy-in option that would allow anyone under 65 to participate. Premiums would be determined on ones ability to pay and capped at a level well below premiums of private insurance. If structured properly, it would be deficit neutral + help fund the Medicare program in general. The secret weapon of this is Medicare's increasing ability to drop costs due to the much larger pool of participants.

This needs to be the public option...simple and straight-forward.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:27 AM
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37. I'm all for it. +1, tex-wyo-dem. nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:03 AM
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23. Don't forget that Nancy Pelosi has been a liberal San Franciscan for decades
I have no doubt where her heart is on these issues.

I'm glad she is doing this. :applause:
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:07 AM
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24. as it should be!!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:03 AM
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26. Just one caveat--if this waits until 2013 for implementation, Dems are totally screwed
Not to mention the public.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:15 AM
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27. problem is, they definitely don't want to start it during an election year like 2012
because no matter how well it is set up, there will be problems and the Republicans will jump all over them. If it is started in a non-election year, there will be time to fix the problems before it becomes mega political
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:47 AM
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35. Allowing people to voluntarily enroll in Medicare would not have nearly the problems
It would be very visible, and could be implemented next year.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:31 AM
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28. She is thowing the chips back into the pot and hopes to
get a better deal after she tossed her cards out already to the blue dogs. It's worth a chance as she is starting from a higher bargaining position. Now the question is--what will she once again toss out???
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:53 AM
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30. Then just expand Medicare to cover ALL Americans.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:22 AM
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31. Great. Just don't negotiate it away later nt
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:45 PM
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34. Honestly, why not just open up Medicare. Easier, cheaper, already in place.
Make the reforms within the system to eliminate the fraud... shore up the drug prices.. and allow anyone who wants to buy in, to do so.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:23 AM
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36. Way to go, Nancy! nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:11 PM
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40. Wow, the spine transplant must have taken.
Nancy, just give us Medicare For All and be done with it. You know it's the right thing to do.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:25 PM
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41. Just expand Medicare to cover everyone.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:53 PM
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42. YES!!!Next step, Medicare for ALL!
Oh blessed day! We're gonna get there after all....
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