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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:46 PM
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Rude Pundit: "Regarding Jimmy Carter: Was This Even Up For Discussion?"
Rude nails it again:

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Listen: when former President Jimmy Carter, from rural Georgia in the goddamned 1920s, says something is racist, he knows what the fuck he's talking about. Can you imagine the number of toothless crackers he grew up around? No, you can't. Don't even try. Because if you didn't grow up during a time when racism was seen as the way things were, where a white person who was polite to a black person was seen as a traitor to their race, where being a dirt poor white man meant that you had to find someone to beat up on and you sure as hell weren't gonna go after the rich white people actually keeping you down, where there were more lynchings of blacks than in any other state but Mississippi, you shut the fuck up and listen to the man. Because he knows from racist.

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The election of a black president, who embraced the word "liberal," both confirms their suspicions and undermines them in a way that they can't deal with. Indeed, right now they can't even allow Obama to accomplish what he wants to do because, if he's right and he succeeds, their entire worldview crumbles. Conservatives in power, who watched George W. Bush get nearly everything he wanted and it turned to shit, have staked their last chance at regaining power on making Obama into that nigger who wants to hurt the white people. Fuck him and his nigger-loving accomplices.

What Carter was reacting to, among other things, was the yell of "You lie" from Representative Joe Wilson at President Obama. That yell was the barbaric scream of impotence from an exiled warrior; implicit with it was that no black man was going to tell him how the world runs, especially when it comes to Hispanics. Jimmy Carter knows what he's seeing. He listened to it for most of his life. He knows stupid fucking rednecks wearing their suit jacket collars high when he sees 'em.

http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com/
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:53 PM
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1. Bad logic
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 12:55 PM by Indigent
What if someone from rural Georgia who was alive during the 1920's says this isn't racist?
Isn't it fair to conclude that most white rural Georgians, being very conservative, will agree that the opposite of what Carter said is true?

Isn't rudepundit saying basically that "Jimmy Carter said it therefore it must be true?"
And why is Colin Powell wrong, being an African American?

Why is Obama wrong? (Gibbs said he disagrees with Carter).

No, Obama isn't from Georgia. but Carter isn't black. So then what?


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:59 PM
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2. lol!
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:01 PM
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5. What's so funny? n/t
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:00 PM
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3. After last night w/Wolfe
You can add Steele to that list
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:32 PM
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25. Dear God. Are you actually using MICHAEL STEELE to bolster your argument??
From lying about growing up in the ghetto, to his ridiculous attempts to gain street cred by saying "y'all", to saying that Republicans wear their hats to the side, the man is a total buffoon.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:01 PM
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4. I agree.
That's some bad logic.
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kegler14 Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:07 PM
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6. Carter might be right, but RP's "logic" is indeed bad here.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:18 PM
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7. You sound CONCERNED
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 01:19 PM by wicket
:eyes:
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:23 PM
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10. IMHO -Rightly So
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:56 PM
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16. Rude Pundit is UNFAIR! and ILLOGICAL!
it CONCERNS me too!!!!!11!!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:30 PM
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22. ARE YOU SERIES????
:P
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:22 PM
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9. rude pundit refutation FAIL
:rofl:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:11 PM
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20. ROFL!!!
:rofl:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:47 PM
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14. wait... what?!?!
:wtf:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:22 PM
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8. The "logic" might (might) be off, but the conclusion IS CORRECT.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:34 PM
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11. BS !!
Why not ask Jimmy how many people of color dug up peanuts on his "Plantation" and how much he paid them!
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:42 PM
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13. What does that have to do with being able to call out a racist when he sees one? n/t
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:49 PM
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15. If you read (or watch)
What Jimmy said,the word racist was never mentioned.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:02 PM
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18. He DOES refer to "racism", and it's linked to the disrespect of the
President.

You sound like one of those literalists who, if you don't hear the words "Joe Wilson is a racist against President Obama" spoken exactly like that, you don't believe it's true. It's clear by the way President Carter phrased his statements that that was what he meant.

What is your overall point? That the outburst by Wilson didn't occur because he has a racial issue with the man who happens to hold the office of POTUS?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:18 PM
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21. piling fail on top of fail i see... proceed sir..
:rofl:
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:32 PM
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23. I gather
in your belly rolling phase, that fail is not an option?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:40 PM
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12. Thanks Rude for giving us this image..
"... That yell was the barbaric scream of impotence from an exiled warrior; implicit with it was that no black man was going to tell him how the world runs, especially when it comes to Hispanics."
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:58 PM
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17. Lee Papa can turn a phrase, that's for damn sure.
Sometimes I forget to check his blog. I usually regret having done so.

Hey, didja know he's appearing every week on the Stephanie Miller show? and he's got a podcast page up so you can listen?

http://rudepundit.podbean.com/
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:09 PM
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19. I just get him when
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 02:09 PM by Cha
he's linked on DU..I'd really like to see what he looks like though after all these years of nailing it in a most Rude One way. :)
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:34 PM
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24. Rec'd......he nailed it. n/t
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:37 PM
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26. He is spot on, as usual. nt
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