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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:22 AM
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Healthcare reform is over.
I am getting off the roller coaster, this is ridiculous.

I am facing the facts in front of me and am tired of writing,calling, voting online polls and listening to my democratic "leaders"..you win, I give up. Tired. I will put my energy in the next cause...I am through with riding this roller coaster. :yoiks:

But I will remember those who left me with the bag, you won't do it to me again. I will continue to fight against the rethugs on a local level but you national "leaders" need to get your minds cleared. You suck.


<rant over>
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:36 AM
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1. Not to get you back on the roller coaster, but did something occur
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 09:37 AM by gateley
today -- or just the general jerking around?

I'm actually heartened because I was dreading Baucus' proposal, and felt it was going to be IT, yet it was met with a big yawn by the WH. (All these are my interpretation, natch, I could be woefully wrong). I'm actually feeling more optimistic about a PO, and so many are hollering that we continue to shovel $$$ into the insurance industry's pockets, I'm hoping something will come about to change THAT.

PS: :pals:


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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:53 AM
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7. yeah, does anyone *really* think baucus's piece of shit is the final bill?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:35 PM
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20. Evidently, no one knows.
We have power of all three branches and look like monkeys humping a footbal at halftime. Fuck it...I am tired of the lies and backpeddling, stick by your priniciples or get the hell out of the way. This fucking silly and stupid to watch. The rethugs are leading the charge while we are debating which pile of shitt to eat. Right? We are in power...pfffft. no one acts like it.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:44 PM
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44. Give up.
The rest of us will carry on.

If I just listened to the media and read stuff here, I would be discouraged as well. Listen to Obama's speech to the union this week. He hasn't given up.

Fired up! Ready to go!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:46 AM
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2. It's not over.
It's only beginning. Pace yourself.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:52 AM
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3. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:53 AM
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5. .
:rofl:

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:53 AM
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6. Hell no!
Kicked and unwrecked.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:48 AM
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17. Wellstone's right.
Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part....

:evilgrin:
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:30 PM
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18. Yesirree
And as a side note...the wars are continuing on, continually being funded by the billions and this congress is at Disney World yelling weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I am sick of it...the war, the crawfish democrats, the empty promises from all of them. They suck.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:29 PM
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32. Um-m-m...what?
I have a feeling this is in reference to something but you have me at a loss.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:32 PM
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33. (Animal House reference.)
:hi:
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:34 PM
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35. Ah! Animal House
That's one of those older movies?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:44 PM
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36. LOL - I suppose it can be considered an older movie - depending on how old you are.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:48 PM
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38. Here you go, Belushi's Inspiration Speech.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:48 PM
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39. LOL!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:52 AM
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4. thats the problem with a bunch of people here. at least the RWers can last 8
years in power. you give up less than a year in. thats why republicans make comebacks.
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mariawr Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:55 AM
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8. What ? Can't go the distance? Rethugs dont' give up. nt
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:39 PM
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22. Rethugs are reactionary
We should be proactive..but noooooo, we get crawfish and backpeddling every fucking day there is yet another abberation of the bill that in no way reflects what we were told last week. it is a fucking nightmare..no one has a clue at what is even in the bill and the rethugs can say whatever the fuck they want to say is in there...and we walk around going duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...misinformation. Geeeeezus I am tired of thsi rollercoaster! Fuck it! I am getting off let them pass a pile of worthless shit for all I care!

I am moving on to green jobs and green world. :eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 09:55 AM
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9. Bye, and have a nice life. nt
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:49 AM
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15. We've been Thrown Under the Roller Coaster!!11!
:rofl:
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:42 PM
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23. Which part of the bill do you support?
And is it going to be in the final bill? If you were honest, you would say you have no fucking idea...you know why? Because no one knows what the fuck is going on! We are cheering on dumbass crawfish! No back bone, no guts...fuck it, I am out..I am movong on to the next battle...this one is done.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:15 AM
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10. You're worn out before the fight begins? Not ME! It's just now getting good.
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 10:15 AM by Zen Democrat
Now that we have the Big Baucus Debacle out of the way. No more pandering for bi-partisanship. This was nicely dispensed with yesterday. It's wheat-from-the-chaff Democrats all the way, Baby! Blue Dogs can lie in the slop if they choose -- but they lose.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:46 PM
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25. Right..I just saw a cow hump a chicken
I believe there will be a calf from the intimate moment I just witnessed...and pigs were flying yesterday! So, yeah...I believe we have a bill!! Not!!
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:24 AM
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11. Your political stamina is equivalent to
a fat guy jogging while eating donuts.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:35 AM
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12. Lame
.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:46 AM
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13. Get over yourself.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:48 AM
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14. Repent. The End Is Near.
You said: "You suck."

:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:35 AM
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16. You are over, perhaps......
But the Health Care reform fight is just beginning!

Cowards normally go and hide when the heavy lifting starts...
so get out of the way, and allow the brave front line soldiers
to fight for you. That is how it has always been; that some
get to benefit from what those who are determined and passionate
fight for.

But know this, while the fight is going on,
you don't get to come out from behind your bunker,
and have shit to say. What isn't needed is more
armchair generals, who want to direct the troops
from the comfort of their basement computer!
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:33 PM
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19. Cowards? You mean congress?
I agree...me? No, I am sick of this volleyball metality. make a stand and stick by it. period. I am not the coward..the ones who are power are!!! Fuck them! And fuk anyone else thinking I am the problem..I am not the one that has changed my mind 50 fucking times in the last month!! Yeah..we are also going to end the war in about 10 fucking years!! Fuck congress!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:37 PM
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21. would perhaps... um... waiting for a damn bill to be worked out and presented before declaring
defeat too damn much to ask?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:44 PM
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24. WHICH BILL??????????????
The one last month?? The one last week? The one last night?? What the fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no agreement on anything on our side...Geeezus H., we have our own committee members re-naming shit thinking they are helping. There is no bill!!! If there were one, then unity would be around it...we got 10 different pieces of shit! That is all we have. And we look like idiots supporting less than what we want.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:01 PM
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27. Sometimes the legislative process can be messy
I'm sorry this isn't like a tv show where everything is wrapped up in a neat little package for you in an hour. Acting like a whiney brat isn't going to help to see this through
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:02 PM
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28. the one that comes out of conference that the president will either sign or veto?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:07 PM
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30. Quit making sense on this nonsensical thread!
:spank: :spank:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:20 PM
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31. !111!11
:hide:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:47 PM
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37. I didn't get my George Soros code book this week.
Is project Omega 7 a go? !111!11

:D
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:10 PM
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40. not.. supposed to mention... the plans... dammit!!!1!1
:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:56 PM
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26. Perhaps we get a congress that reflects who we are.
It's easy to talk, much harder to do.
So say "Fuck" all you want...but know that saying "Fuck" never gotten
Americans shit.

If the Civil Right Marchers had said "Fuck it....congress ain't worth shit,
and we ain't doing this shit anymore"....where would we be on that issue?


No goddamn where....that's where.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:04 PM
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29. Game over man - GAME OVER!!!!
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:26 PM
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42. LoL!
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 01:33 PM
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34. I Rec'd your thread
Not because I agree but because I think you need a boost.

I can feel your anguish and that comes from your principles. We can't give up, even if it seems hopeless. Even if, at the end of the day, we see the castle taken we must look at each other and say, "It wasn't because we stopped fighting."

Even if it fails now why not hope for 2013 when re-election no longer hangs like a sword over their heads?

Keep fighting, I know you have it in you.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:13 PM
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41. Then get out of the way. The rest of us all still doing the work.
And we don't need a bunch of doomsday wimps babbling nonsense while we do the heavy lifting for you.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:36 PM
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43. heeeeeeeeeere he comes not to save the dayyyyyy.... mighty mou-- oh wait...
:o
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