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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:59 AM
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Obama willing to deep-six public option


Analysis: Obama willing to deep-six public option
By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP White House Correspondent
September 10, 2009

WASHINGTON_President Barack Obama has never been wedded to a government-run health insurance plan.

The will-he-or-won't-he obsession over how hard Obama might fight to include the so-called public option in a health care reform package has been _ let's be honest _ mostly just noise.

Obama settled that Washington parlor game in his speech to Congress and a television-watching public Wednesday night. The president praised the public option but called it only a means to the end of providing more competition, not crucial on its own.

"We should remain open to other ideas that accomplish our ultimate goal," he said.

In the days ahead, there will be grumbling from progressives, sure, some of it angry. Still, liberal lawmakers know the idea is largely dead.

Mark McClellan, a health policy expert at The Brookings Institution who ran Medicare in the Bush administration, said Obama hit it right.

"He made clear there is room for negotiation on the public plan, and I think that's where he needs to be in terms of keeping support from the Democratic caucus and leaving the door open for some Republicans," he said.

Most public statements from Obama and his aides and top officials were coy on questions they already knew the answers to, so that Obama's liberal base could hear what they wanted to.

In scheduling Wednesday night's prime-time address, Obama realized that in order to reboot the discussion for the fall, he had to be clear about what he wants and doesn't _ on a public option and a range of other big issues.

And so, for once, he came clean on the issue.

Please read the complete article at:

http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp?n=1&neID=qG_aMOr_r0D9CbWdQdCFgFjB2j04YJ1_2VIOQmvSNleIc7JTFNHeHvyBSzWs3FyfN5eEhaveJTIqq-nhNWDdgg**
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:01 PM
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1. reeks of non partisan credibility
"health policy expert at The Brookings Institution who ran Medicare in the Bush administration"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:02 PM
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2. Fuck AP and fuck
this shit pile.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:03 PM
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3. Stop posting bullshit. Fuck AP and anybody who believes their propaganda.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:07 PM
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4. Ooooh! An "analysis" by some underqualified "reporter"
:eyes:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:08 PM
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5. You know I'm so sick of these. I watched the speech and he indicated
he wanted a basic public option. I take him at his word and not some reporter.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:09 PM
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6. You're still around? Why?
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:09 PM
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7. You people just don't get it, do you?
Those who are saying "fuck AP", etc just don't understand...

This is what people hear. This is what people believe. By and large most people are easily led around by the nose and spoon fed what insurance groups and other special interest types want them to hear.

How do you think Fox News got to be so popular? You tell a lie often enough and people will believe it to be the truth.

Do not discount the ignorance of large groups of easily swayed people. Saying you will ignore it just lends credibility to their lies.

Fight back or accept the lies. Really I don't see many other options than that.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:09 PM
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8. You, the AP and
many others obviously never listen for yourselves do you.

You see, I watched the speech last night and I listened closely. No where, not even close to it, did he insinuate he's willing to get rid of the public option.

Your ass has been shown over and over that every where he goes, anytime he speaks he insists on the public option. But you ignore that and instead find the latest AP artictle telling you something Obamas never said and like the good Obama hater you are, you eat it up and regurgitate it on this board and try to pass it off as fact.

Well your bullshit doesn't fly here among many but hey, you do have some that buy into the bullshit so you should be happy with that.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:29 PM
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10. he also very clearly said he's going to continue to protect
the insurance companies.

A true public option is anathema to for-profit insurance companies.

One or the other has to go.


The insurance company stocks are higher today.


go figure.




Tansy Gold
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:09 PM
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9. I hear they have a seat over at Fox for you.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:36 PM
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11. Tune out
the AP and tune into CSPAN and listen to the progressive caucus discuss last nights speech. Rep. Ellison and Rep. Woolsey are happy with the speech last night and are happy that he's still insisting on the public option.

See, when one listens for themselves they actually get to hear what is said, not how the media spins it.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 12:42 PM
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12. You have a whole speech of Obama's words to work with and you quote AP's Loven?
:eyes: :banghead:
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