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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:33 PM
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So Buckhead is MacDougald. Now, is there any way to link him to Rove?
Or does this story end at MacDougald being given the commenad from on high to raise questions about the authenticity of the memos?

Can we all agree that it's too much of a stretch this insider attorney "discovered" the documents may have been forgeriries? WHy won't he answer questions now?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:39 PM
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1. He has been linked to Ken Starr

which means that it should be easy to link him to Scaife.
And that's the center of the VRWC.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:41 PM
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4. I didn't know he was linked to Ken Starr. Can you point me
in the right direction? Thanks.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:14 PM
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13. On Olbermann tonight

the story was that this guy and Ken Starr were co-counsels on
a political legal action some number of years ago. Googling
for it now... coming up dry. Hopefully someone else out there
can find what this freeper moran and Starr were doing. Sorry,
I didn't Tivo Olbermann tonight, because they gave more detail.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:03 PM
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10. Got your Scaife link right here
This is an article about the Southeastern Legal Foundation, with which MacDougald is affiliated, and the petition to disbar Clinton in Arkansas, which he helped draft.

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2000/disbar.html

"No one was expecting balanced coverage from WorldNetDaily on the attempt to pull President Clinton’s law license. Clinton has declined to release the documents he has filed in the matter, all but inviting veteran Clinton-bashers like WorldNetDaily to pile on the hate without fear of being contradicted by the facts.

<snip>

"Let’s start with the Southeastern Legal Foundation, the group bringing the action. Bresnahan refers to the group as 'a public interest, non-profit law firm.' He neglects to mention that the group is a favorite receptacle of cash -- $150,000 in 1998 alone -- from billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, funder of many anti-Clinton efforts. Matthew Glavin, president of the foundation, says Scaife is among the group’s top 10 annual donors but refuses to release more specific numbers or exactly where Scaife is on the list.

<snip>

"Speaking of one-sided, Bresnahan can’t even be bothered to get a response from Clinton or his attorney, David Kendall, for any of these three stories. The only sources for the stories are Glavin, Hogue and, for some unknown reason, Georgia congressman Bob Barr. For the record, here’s what Kendall had to say in a statement released after the rebuttal was filed, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette:

" 'The foundation isn’t interested in issues relating to Arkansas lawyers and legal services; it’s just interested in attacking the president in any way it can. ... Richard Scaife gives the foundation money, and Kenneth Starr helps raise money for it. (Starr spoke at a recent fund-raiser.) Releasing its papers to the public is just another part of the long-running partisan mudslinging campaign against the president.' "
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:17 PM
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15. Awesome job - Thanks... yes that is what MSNBC was

talking about, the attempt to get Clinton disbarred in Arkansas.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:57 PM
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24. Thank you to you both!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:39 PM
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50. Keith Olbermann did a blog on this yesterday on Hardblogger
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:11 PM
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27. MacDougald/Starr together on challenge to Campaign Finance Reform
Another link between MacDougald and Starr is that they were both lawyers on Senator Mitch McConnell's challenge to the Campaign Finance Reform Act.

(Warning - pdf file)
http://www.jamesmadisoncenter.org/McConellvsFEC/docket.8.6.2002.pdf
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:33 AM
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52. I found a lot more on the Southeastern Legal Foundation
I posted what I found on a thread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=837236 but it's just as relevant here.

Here are the main points -- see that other thread for details and links:

1. Southeastern Legal received a large part of its funding from Richard Mellon Scaife when he was attempting to destroy Bill Clinton. As well as being the source of the motion to disbar Clinton in Arkansas, Southeastern Legal also helped Gary Aldrich produce his Clinton-bashing book, Unlimited Access. The foundation has ties to Ken Starr as well -- and, of course, Starr himself is also part of the Scaife/anti-Clinton complex.

This is probably the most important part of the story. As the crew of characters connected with the SwiftBoat Liars suggests, Scaife and his associates (AKA the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy) seem to be trying to destroy Kerry using the same methods they applied to Clinton.

2. When they're not attacking Clinton, Southeastern Legal is pursuing a variety of regressive social goals, including attempts to overturn affirmative action.

3. It was Southeastern Legal that released a report claiming that 25% percent of Cynthia McKinney's 1999-2000 campaign contributions of over $101 came from Arab or Middle-Eastern-connected individuals and organizations and followed this up with a letter to Richard Gephardt demanding McKinney be removed from her seats on the House Armed Services and International Relations committees.

4. Bob Barr was their president from 1990-94 and is still on their legal advisory board. (This would be why he was used as a source in the story referred to in my post above.)

5. From 1994 to 2000, their president was Matthew Glavin, a long-time friend of Newt Gingrich. (Glavin had to step down when he was charged with public indecency for fondling first himself and then a police officer in a national park. The right-wing responded by claiming that it was all a frame-up by the Clinton administration and the black head of the National Park Service.)

6. Long-time board member Larry Thompson was among those who worked to insure Clarence Thomas's confirmation by spreading rumors that Anita Hill suffered from sexual delusions. Thompson was later appointed a Deputy Attorney General in the Bush administration and got into trouble when it was revealed he had financial ties to Enron.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:40 PM
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2. OMG, look at this letter he wrote
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 09:05 PM by chimpsrsmarter
sorry i dont know why it wont work but here is the letter
Maybe Trent Got Mr. MacDougald's Letter...

Sunday, December 22, 2002


(PV Notes: The following letter was submitted to the RNC earlier this week and is being reprinted with author permission.)
Trent Lott must resign as majority leader. I have been voting Republican and giving money and been active in the Party for many years. I have always been appalled by Trent Lott, and have always thought of him has as an unctuous, gutless, spineless, craven helmet-haired weasel of the first order. He surrenders to the enemy more than the French. He is a doormat for Daschle, and was a knee-pad wearing accessory after the fact for his secret crush, Bill Clinton.
He is a vacuous, vapid ignoramus. He is the author of Lott's Doctrine of Preemptive Capitulation. Except, of course, when he is sticking it to his own party. Then he is willing to burn down the Senate in order to preserve his sinecure and the perquisites of his office. He is a disgusting rodent of a man but is really much more of a Nancy Boy than a man.
Rather than letting him gratify his ego lust by hanging on to the Senate Majority Leadership, may I suggest just paying someone to walk around behind him calling him "Leader" every few minutes in a room full of mirrors, and throwing in a life-time supply of Aqua Net hairspray? He would be equally happy, and we would all be a lot better off.

The latest imbroglio is just more more good reason this pathetic loser, this pale pint-size knock-off of a genuine leader, has to be removed from the leadership. He has got us so far off message we need a trip planner and a telescope to find it again. He has gladly capitulated to a constellation of race-hustling poverty pimps in an repellent effort to hang on at all costs.
Get rid of this weasel or go down in flames with him.
Harry W. MacDougald
Atlanta, GA



and here is the link to the sitehttp://politicalvine.com/letters/lettersview.asp?c=3469
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:59 PM
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9. your link doesn't work for me
Can you find a good link, or copy the letter to me in DU mail?
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 02:49 AM
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37. Try this
http://politicalvine.com/letters/lettersview.asp?c=3469

It was the correct link, but a space was missing to separate the link.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:11 PM
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12. Okay now!
He's one loose cannon, but he had Trent Lott pegged.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:20 PM
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17. After reading that letter he wrote i started to think
that maybe that tape of Lott's comments about Strom Thurmond? were leaked out by the republicans to get him knee-capped.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:36 PM
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19. You know what....
I thought the exact same thing, but didn't want anyone to tell me that my tinfoil hat was on too tight. :toast: Great minds think alike.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:38 PM
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20. I keep mine under my deak!
but i think we are both right on this count.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:59 PM
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25. Lott was replaced by Hastert, right?
There was probably a reason.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:15 PM
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28. Lott was replaced by Frist
Hastert replaced Livingston, the disgraced Republican who replaced Gingrich, another disgraced Republican.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 08:15 AM
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39. "race-hustling poverty pimps"
I'm not sure whether to be angry or amused. :silly: Either way, HE should be very embarrassed.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:04 AM
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43. Funny, if you substitute "Daschle" for "Lott", and "Democratic" for
"Republican" etc. you get a letter that looks suspiciously like something you might read in DU, LOL.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:40 PM
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3. How about a link to CNN !
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:42 PM
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5. Interesting find here....
The Globe story is itself based on last night's 60 Minutes report: "New questions on Bush Guard duty." The online version of the 60 Minutes story has links to the memos. Killian died in 1984; CBS states that it "consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic." Readers Tom Mortensen and Liz MacDougald direct us to the FreeRepublic post and thread (see post no. 47) to this effect:

http://fatsteve.blogspot.com/

It's a weird name and so that's why it stands out. Liz MacDougald directed someone to the Harry MacDougald post. I'm smelling a fish and it starting to smell rotten. They probably went to all the rightwing blogs directing them to that one post and of course that's how the story grew and grew.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:52 PM
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6. A better question may be
Who is Tom Mortensen and is he involved with Karl Rove? I found out by searching Google that he also peddled a lot of the Swift Boat stories all over the internet.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:53 PM
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7. Please read this:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:57 PM
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8. Hmmm...
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 08:58 PM by pbl
That's very interesting. So is Liz MacDougland a part of those and if so what is her relationship to Harry? It would make perfect sense that the same ones who created the story would also peddle the story. I certainly hope CBS is on this.

On Edit: I think you should put that same information in this thread-- I would do it, but I don't want to take the credit away from you.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:35 PM
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47. Liz is Harry's wife
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 09:37 PM by NRK
at least according to a one-post DUer. No link was given. For what that's worth.


biblio (1 posts) Sat Sep-18-04 06:40 AM
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40. Another Macdougald Connection
The Freeper story got picked up very quickly by "Powerline" which credited "Elizabeth Macdougald" for alerting them to Buckhead's Freep post. So Harry writes the critique, Liz gets the word out, and voila, instant media event.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x835262#836500
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:06 PM
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26. I think that the smear machine already had their contacts prepped
at the major news organizations. "Readers" Tom Mortensen and Liz MacDougald are probably well known to their contacts at major media. This is the way that pr companies work - they steer stories to their contacts in the media.

What is underhanded is their attempt to make the questions about the memos look like a spontaneous discovery by a clever but disinterested blogger, when the truth is that it was a carefully orchestrated campaign against Dan Rather, implemented as soon as the episode of 60 Minutes II was telecast.

As an American who believes in the Constitution, my biggest concern is the blurring of the lines that should be separating public relations from news reporting, as well as the blurring of lines between legal representation and business consulting. It's unethical imo. And the worst part is that they convince the loyal foot soldiers that this is all about being a good Christian!

The mind boggles.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:46 PM
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31. Good points
Things to keep in mind and look out for in future stories. We should get a list of all the rightwing blogs and check them for the Republican noise machine so that we're not caught off guard.

The thing that really bothers me about the MacDougald post on FreeRepublic is that it was the first post on this and yet it had all the answers (down to the font, the spacing and methods used to achieve the look on the paper). What a wonderful coincidence.

MacDougland's post:
Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:09 PM
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11. He's also linked somehow to L.Brent Bozell III
and the Media Research Center.

http://www.mrc.org/

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:15 PM
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14. That's it then. This is from the link in my post, above:
"CRC worked with CNS and the Media Research Center, another media watchdog client, to push the story into the mainstream press."


Buckhead was a part of things--that much can be assumed. While the freepers like to think that they pieced together information on their site, the fact is that Buckhead was there feeding them crumbs.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:21 PM
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18. The tangled web they weave
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 09:21 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Elliott Abrams is on Bozell's Advisory Board along with Rush Limbaugh.

This just gets better and better.


http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/elliot_abrams.htm


December 2000

Abrams now (2000) the president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center

Elliott Abrams was assistant secretary of state for Inter-American affairs during the Reagan Administration. As such, he was responsible for the repressive and illegal policies pursued in El Salvador and Nicaragua during the 1980s, and played a key role in the US relationship to Manuel Noriega, and then lied about the whole deal to the US Congress.

A book he wrote was underwritten by the Bradley foundation via the Hudson Institute.

Abrams is on the advisory board of the Media Research Center, an organization that opposes any traces of liberalism on TV or in films. Chairman L. Brent Bozell III publishes the newsletter TV, ETC., with an advisory board that includes Abrams, Mona Charen, Pete DuPont, and Rush Limbaugh.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:19 PM
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16. maybe Liz is Harry's wife
We know he's married.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:39 PM
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30. Didn't Liz and Harry kill Universal Healthcare?
Is Liz short for Louise?


:tinfoilhat:
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:12 PM
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21. Linked to the Federalist Society too.....
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:34 PM
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22. Seems that B'head is also on the County Registration and Election Board
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 10:37 PM by jefferson_dem
for Fulton Country. Now...how does that sit?

http://www.fultongop.org/committee_2001.asp

Here's his statement on the NEW DIEBOLD machines.

"I feel reasonably comfortable," MacDougald said recently. "There's always a theoretical possibility . That can never be excluded, regardless of the voting technology. But the measures that were previously in place, with the new measures and technical fixes that are being made, bring the issue within a reasonable degree of security."

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=156
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:50 PM
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32. Oh good Lord...
I know the fix is in now!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:45 PM
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:19 PM
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29. see my new thread on Mortensen
There's plenty more to dig.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:33 AM
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33. Got the link Rove to MacDonald with one jump
Oh yea, Bush too.


Center of nexus is : Southeastern Legal Foundation

On tonight's Hardball special (9/17/2004) with Kitty Kelly, Tweety had on a repug Ed Hanscom(?, I think have to wait until transcript is posted.) Tweety was asking him re Kelly's allegations. This guy says he worked with Bush and Lee Atwater on 1988 campaign. He said Bush and Atwater good friends. So where does this guy come from:

Southeastern Legal Foundation


I'll come back to this post later when I nail this Repug's name for sure, but I think this repug that was on Tweety's special tonight is the tie vis SLF.

Show to be repeated at 2AM Est on MSNBC....I'll stay up and edit this post with the correct name.............unless some Du'er can beat me to it. :thumbsup:
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:18 AM
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34. Ed Rogers.............he's the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Tweety's show (the special with Kitty Kelly).
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:44 AM
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35. Someone needs to make..
a six degrees of separation map, like the PNAC map floating around.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 02:42 AM
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36. Let's CONTACT and thank this reporter, [email protected], and...
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 08:00 AM
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38. Stuart Bowen and other stuff.
I've spent an hour looking around, and here's what I find. Harry MacDougald is apparently a member of the Fulton Country Elections and Registrations Board.

Fulton County elections officials were accused of misplacing a number of memory cards in mostly Democratic Fulton County. Some of them were not recovered.

MacDougald in particular asked for assurances that Georgia's new touch-screen voting machines were reasonably tamper-proof.

There is a Harry MacDougald of Atlanta Georgia who appears to have gone to Episcopal High School of Alexandria, VA, Class of '76. The Harry MacDougald we know was born in 1958--Class of '76. Another Episcopal Class of '76 member is White House Counsel Stuart Bowen. MacDougald is unquestionably in contact with Bowen, because MacDougald is the Class of '76 contact representative and mentions that he has Bowen's bio and will email it to classmates.

The address of the Harry MacDougald of Episcopal High School matches the address of the Harry MacDougald who filed an SLF amicus brief against Bill Clinton.

Or rather Stuart Bowen was part of the White House Counsel's office. Then Bowen was Inspector General for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, where he took KBR to task for losing $18 million worth of government property. Prior to that, Bowen was one of the Bush campaign people who was active in Florida in 2000.

That's a very direct association with the Bush Administration, I think, but I frankly don't see what use it is.

The followin is a data dump of some of the more interesting stuff I found on the guy and people associated with him.

________________________

http://www.wcsr.com/FSL5CS/Lawyers/lawyers1450.asp

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Board of Advisors


William J. Allen Elizabeth K. Dorminey W. Ray Persons
Robert R. Ambler, Jr. William S Duffey, Jr. E. Scott Smith
Byron Attridge Prof. L. Lynn Hogue Edward K. Smith
Hon. Bobby Baker Daniel MacDougald E. Ray Taylor, Jr.
Hon. David N. Baker Harry MacDougald Joe D. Whitley
Hon. Michael J. Bowers Matthew H. Patton Hon. William B. Hill, Jr.
George E.Butler, II Oscar N. Persons

http://www.fed-soc.org/Chapters/Atlanta/Atlanta.htm

______________

News of the legal world

Word is Gov. Sonny Perdue is set to appoint Shawn LaGrua, a major player in the trials surrounding the murder of Sheriff-elect Derwin Brown, to the post of solicitor, which was left vacant when Gwen Keyes resigned to run for district attorney.

In another lawyerly development, according to the press release, C. Donald Johnson has been named interim director of the University of Georgia Law School's Dean Rusk Center.

Back in his legislative and congressional days, he was just plain Don Johnson.

Johnson, you'll recall, was an early victim of the Republican Revolution, serving just one House term and losing his seat in the '94 sweep. The former Joe Frank Harris floor leader went on to become chief textile negotiator for the Clinton administration, with the rank of ambassador.

That's the entre to the Rusk Center, which is dedicated to the study of international law.

Elsewhere, Frank Strickland, who was the Georgia Republican Party's lead attorney in the legislative redistricting case, is the newest member of the Fulton County Board of Registrations and Elections.

The board, appointed by the Fulton County Commission, currently consists of three Democrats -- Gloria Borders, Cynthia Williams and Wini Cox -- and two Republicans, Strickland and Harry MacDougald.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:nYUiJ0ZaEhkJ:www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/0604a/061804.html+%22harry+macdougald%22&hl=en
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GENERAL ISSUES AT THE POLLS

* Georgia officials forgot where they put their memory cards: Fulton County election officials said that memory cards from 67 electronic voting machines had been misplaced, so ballots cast on those machines were left out of previously announced vote totals. No hand count can shine any light on this; the entire state of Georgia went to touch-screen machines with no physical record of the vote. Fifty-six cards, containing 2,180 ballots, were located, but 11 memory cards still were missing Thursday evening. Bibb County and Glynn County each had one card missing after the initial vote count. When DeKalb County election officials went home early Wednesday morning, they were missing 10 cards. http://pub103.ezboard.com/fsoldiervoicefrm16.showMessage?topicID=2.topic

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Cox has found an unlikely ally in Common Cause Georgia. The government watchdog has issued a position paper backing touch-screen voting.

"No system is perfect," wrote Executive Director Bill Bozarth, "but we see nothing in the current Georgia implementation to warrant any consideration for going back to other voting systems. The level of collusion required to carry out vote stealing is so great as to render it extremely unlikely. The chance of a fraud occurring and subsequently going undetected is virtually zero."

Bozarth, who worked for IBM for 30 years, said he spoke with touch-screen opponents. "The people really adamant about this are people in the political extremes who believe there is a conspiracy afoot," he said.

In October, the Fulton County Elections Board sent Cox a letter that asked pointed questions about the security of Georgia's voting machines. The state's largest county uses 2,975 machines. Harry MacDougald, a Republican board member, wrote the letter after hearing about Rubin's report.

Cox wrote a six-page response explaining the procedures in place to ensure the machines cannot be manipulated.

The Fulton board replied Dec. 1, telling Cox she had alleviated members' concerns.

"I feel reasonably comfortable," MacDougald said recently. "There's always a theoretical possibility . That can never be excluded, regardless of the voting technology. But the measures that were previously in place, with the new measures and technical fixes that are being made, bring the issue within a reasonable degree of security."

Cox often talks about the machines to churches, civic clubs and chambers of commerce while traveling the state.


http://www.verifiedvoting.org/article.asp?id=1218
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http://www.macedition.net/nmr/nmr_20021126.php
http://www.macedition.net/scripts/showmessage.php?articleid=1177&postid=2728&threadid=2728

Your riff on the Vichy Congress, and the large craters to be left by Administration's security policies suggest you pine for the halcyon days of yore when Comrade Clinton, a/k/a The Sink Emperor, was at the helm. As for Vichy Congresses, there were 2 democrat senators who publicly stated that Clinton's conduct warranted impeachment, and then, with all the martial vigor of a french cheese eating surrender monkey (but I repeat myself), voted to acquit. I speak of those paragons of senatorial courage, learning and non-viagra-induced rectitude, Robert "I'm saving the Constitution" Byrd, and Daniel Patrick Moyhnihan. Trent "Vacant" Lott, of Lott's Doctrine of Preemptive Capitulation, was only too happy to service all democrat demands at that time or any other. And, as for craters, there's one on Liberty Street in lower Manhattan that is the legacy of Clinton's feckless photo-op foreign policy, pursuant to which he (1) blew up a perfectly innocent aspirin factory in Khartoum in supposed retaliation for the East African bombings, because such a man of honor would never, ever stoop to wagging the dog while his plump and stained appliance waddled in and out of the grand jury, and (2) turned down the Sudan's offer of Osama on a platter, among many other psychotic eruptions during his presidency. The miserable wretch of a blade is a dullard indeed if he prefers the priapic perjurer as president to the current occupant, who actually puts duty above self, something Clinton cannot comprehend, much less accomplish himself. Double check those meds, dude!

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http://www.episcopalhighschool.org/ClassPages/1976.html

Perhaps the most interesting thing in our
Reunion package was a collection of bios
and reminiscences from various members of
the class. E-mail me for a copy—it’s worth
it. Find out what Hugh Haynsworth, Fred
Garth, John Bard, and Alex Liu, among
others, have been up to. Stuart Bowen
works in the White House Counsel’s office
on appointments (jobs, not scheduling), and
found time to come to the Reunion with his
wife and four—count ’em—four children
Robert Cunningham works in the EPA
Counsel’s office. The leviathan has some
good hands on the tiller.

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:hitlluU5geMJ:www.episcopalhighschool.org/pdf/Fall01.classnotes.pdf++%22harry+macdougald%22+episcopal&hl=en

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Stuart Bowen
http://www.warstories.cc/person/?personId=7984

Prior to joining the White House staff, Stuart Bowen served as Associate Counsel to the President. Previously, Stuart served for six years on Governor George W. Bush's legal staff, first as an Assistant General Counsel and then as Deputy General Counsel. Stuart has held positions as an Assistant Attorney General of Texas, as a Briefing Attorney for the Texas Supreme Court, and as a Captain in the United States Air Force (Intelligence). He is a graduate of the University of the South and he received his J.D. from St. Mary's in San Antonio.
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http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-79421

Stuart Bowen: Coalition Provisional Authority Inspector General

The inspector general of the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) is described by the CPA's website as an "independent and objective oversight office" to monitor taxpayer money being spent on contracts. But instead of appointing someone with budget or contracting experience, the White House appointed Stuart Bowen, Jr., a Texas lawyer with longtime ties to President Bush. Before being appointed Inspector General, Bowen worked directly for the President for eight years -- most recently as a White House legal counselor, and before that in the Texas governor's office.

According to The Chicago Tribune, between his time at the White House and the CPA, Bowen lobbied for Iraq contracts for the consulting firm URS Group; his connections to the Bush team landed contracts worth up to $30 million. As inspector general, Bowen oversees many of the investigations into Halliburton's misuse of taxpayer money. Yet despite evidence that the company could be bilking taxpayers, he has been only mildly critical. In fact, one of his most public statements was a call for more taxpayer money to be spent in Iraq, not more control over that money: In April he issued a report discussing "the need for more funding to accomplish the reconstruction mission."

Over the years, Bowen has displayed a penchant for placing ideology and political loyalty above independent analysis. During his time in Texas, for instance, Bowen wrote a memo to Bush regarding the 1997 execution of David Wayne Spence, using what The Nation called "distortion, omissions, outright lies, and an inappropriate adversarial bent." Writing several months after the execution and using the same information Bowen used in his memo, New York Times columnist Bob Herbert concluded that Spence was "almost certainly innocent" and the case against him a "travesty." This behavior was more the rule than the exception for Bowen's office. As a 2000 study noted, one third of the 131 death penalty cases under Governor Bush involved lawyers who were later disbarred or otherwise sanctioned -- yet Bush and his legal team ignored this injustice and pushed forward with signing the highest number of death certificates in the country.
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http://www.nysscpa.org/home/2004/704/4week/article45.htm

Halliburton: $18M in U.S. Gear is Missing

NEW YORK -- A Halliburton subsidiary has lost about one-third of the items it was given to manage in Iraq, $18.6 million worth of government property that includes trucks, computers and office furniture, a government audit has found, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday.

Government auditors could not account for 6,975 of 20,531 items on the ledgers of one of Halliburton's subsidiaries, Kellogg Brown Root, according to a report by Stuart Bowen, the auditor for the authority that oversees contractors in Iraq.

The report said the company "did not effectively manage government property." It projected that Kellogg Brown Root could not account for nearly 7,000 items from a total inventory valued at $61.1 million.

Halliburton, which has contracts in Iraq worth as much as $18.6 billion, is under investigation by the Justice Department for allegedly overcharging the military by $61 million for fuel purchases.

-- NYSSCPA.org News Staff

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http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/03/05/military/index1.html

Did Bush camp encourage military personnel to vote after Election Day? | 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Ed Fleming, a Republican attorney in Pensacola who represents Rep. Joe Scarborough, R-Fla., had been drafted by Unger to work on the project. In one of their conversations, Unger told Fleming of a rumor he'd heard that the Dems were going to go full-bore in challenging overseas military absentee ballots. On Thursday, Fleming asked a local county attorney if he'd heard anything about the rumor. Sure, the attorney told him. Got a memo right here about it, written by the Democrats. He faxed Fleming the memo. It was written by Mark Herron, outlining the Gore strategy.

Fleming passed news of the memo to Stuart Bowen, a Bush attorney from Austin who was supervising the absentee ballot effort in the Panhandle. On Friday morning, after making sure that Fleming obtained the memo legally, Bowen told him to fax the memo to Tallahassee ASAP.

At 11:42 a.m., the memo arrived in Unger's office. He showed it to Washington attorney David Aufhauser (nominated Wednesday to be general counsel for the Department of the Treasury). Within minutes, Bush campaign counsel Ben Ginsberg had it. Within seconds after that, Bush Florida recount general Jim Baker.

"This is gold," said spokeswoman Mindy Tucker, when it got around to her.

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Although nobody can seem to come up with the actual money, the amounts "lost" are clearly established, however invisible: $3 million in overcharges on an oil pipeline repair; $40,000 for team travel gambled away by a U.S. military sports coach; $29,000 to pay for an investigation of counterfeiting; $18 million in missing vehicles and generators by the largest logistics contractor in Iraq; $1 million worth of electric generators, 18 trucks or SUVs, and six laptop computers.

In all (for now), investigators can not find 52 of 164 randomly selected items from an inventory of 20,000 items---overseen by KBR, a subsidiary of, you guessed it, Halliburton.

http://www.etherzone.com/2004/moor080304.shtml
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http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=7041&fcategory_desc=Dick%20Cheney%20and%20Halliburton

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http://southeasternlegal.org/ClintonAmicusBrief110701.html




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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 08:39 AM
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40. Womble Carlyle (MacDougald) and URS (Bowen)
H. Jesse Arnelle

Director at
Textron Inc.
Providence, Rhode Island
CONGLOMERATES / CONGLOMERATES
Director since 1993

70 years old
Dickinson School of Law
Pennsylvania State University

Following his retirement, he became Of Counsel to the North Carolina law firm of Womble, Carlyle, Sandridge & Rice.

Involvement In Other Companies

Director for
URS Corporation (URS)

http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/personinfo/FromPersonIdPersonTearsheet.jhtml?passedPersonId=224178
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GOP insiders shape postwar Iraq: Republican ties trump experience in coalition
by Andrew Zajac

A little over a year ago, Stuart Bowen Jr. was lobbying for a company looking for work in the impending reconstruction of Iraq.

A former longtime aide to President Bush, Bowen tapped administration contacts on behalf of URS Group, a consulting firm, and the company eventually landed contracts worth up to $30 million for overseeing Iraqi construction projects.

Today, Bowen works for the Coalition Provisional Authority, the U.S.-led bureaucracy running Iraq. In his new job as inspector general, Bowen is the corruption watchdog over more than $20 billion of rebuilding, including the activities of URS, the company he represented.

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Board of Directors Biography
H. Jesse Arnelle
Of Counsel, Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice, PLLC
Member - Audit Committee

Director since July 1995

Mr. Arnelle is Of Counsel with the law firm of Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice, PLLC since October 1997 and former senior partner and co-founder of Arnelle, Hastie, McGee, Willis & Greene, a San Francisco-based corporate law firm from which he retired in 1996. He is a graduate of Pennsylvania State University and the Dickinson School of Law. Armstrong has retained Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice, PLLC for many years, including 2003 and 2004. Mr. Arnelle served as Vice Chairman (1992-1995) and Chairman (1996-1998) of the Board of Trustees of the Pennsylvania State University. He serves on the Boards of FPL Group, Inc., Eastman Chemical Company, URS Corporation, Textron, Inc.,Gannett Corporation and Metropolitan Life Series Fund.

http://www.armstrong.com/corporatena/bio2552.html
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http://www.wcsr.com/FSL5CS/lawyers/lawyers380.asp
http://www.wcsr.com/FSL5CS/lawyers/lawyers1450.asp
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 08:49 AM
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41. Heh, getting closer....
Edited on Sat Sep-18-04 08:49 AM by sofa king
President's Portrait Unveiled in Texas State Capitol
Remarks by the President at Portrait Unveiling
Texas State Capitol
Austin, Texas

...

We had fun. We got some positive things done for Texas. We worked hard. And it was the memories that I'll never forget. And so I want to thank you all who worked on our team. It should be noted that many of them who were on this team moved to Washington. Pinky Albaugh -- (laughter) -- he's not here, so I can say it. (Laughter.) Karen, of course. Karl Rove. Gonzalez -- I see Al is here, the chief attorney. Margaret Spellings, she's got a new last name now -- those of us who know her husband are somewhat amazed. (Laughter.) Albert Hawkins. Harriet Miers.

These are all the folks that I rely on. These are people who have got great judgment and care deeply about our country. And America is really better off by the fact that they decided to make a huge sacrifice, leave their beloved state and go to Washington, D.C.

We also have got a lot of others up there that many of you knew: Ashley, Izzy, Logan. It's such an honor for Logan to know that we named one of our cows after him that was recently born. (Laughter.) Margaret Wilson and Stuart Bowen and Vickers Meadows. Pat Wood. These are all folks, we worked together here in Austin, who are now serving our nation. And I truly believe America is better off as a result of the influx of Texans who showed up.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020104-7.html
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. A question about Florida.
Before we knew who this guy was, DUers had made some accurate guesses about who he was. They knew he went to Brown and UGA, and guessed that he was on an elections board, and also thought he was somehow associated with the President's legal team in Florida.

I can't find anything that ties MacDougald to Florida. But his schoolmate and e-mail pal Stuart Bowen was part of Bush's Florida recount team.

So... how did DUers think that MacDougald was associated with Florida? In particular, I'm wondering how Buckhead worded what he knew. Did he know about the Florida recount firsthand, or did he pass on the information he learned from a friend?

And what's this about him being set up to do Florida again this year? Did he get that job by... appointment? Maybe an appointment by the White House Counsel in charge of appointments, Stuart Bowen?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:18 AM
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44. Curioser and curioser...
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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:07 AM
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45. His father went to the same high school
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
46. Kick.
The Bowen link may or may not be worth pursuing. Bowen could have referred MacDougald to Rove.

I apologize for all of the spelling errors in my topic post. I was on my way out the door when I wrote that, typing in a rush and didn't even bother to re-read it. :)
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:43 PM
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48. Sometimes connections are made thru kids attending same private schools
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:58 PM
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49. So.. let me get this straight.... You are really ON TO SOMETHING!
MacDougald was slumming on the FreeRepublic site, pretending to be a freeper, when in fact he is neck deep in Rove, Starr, and Scaife's plots, AND we now understand how Florida has and will be screwed with again! WHERE ARE THE JOURNALISTS???

I'm understanding how very, very deep the attacks on John Kerry are routed.. the Hunting of the Candidate, should be the next book out, they are doing the same thing to Kerry that they did to Clinton.

I think enough media types read DU, that this will get out.. AND we're sending this info out all over, right? I LOVE when the DUers use their powers for good. Google is a good thing.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:43 PM
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51. Someone, anyone who's got contacts in the media--
send this info to the LA Times writer who uncovered Buckhead. Then send it to CBS News & Olbermann.
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