Donate to DU!
Democratic Underground Latest Threads
Latest
Greatest Threads
Greatest
Lobby
Lobby
Journals
Journals
Search
Search
Options
Options
Help
Help
Login
Login
Google

Is our Children Learnin'?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
First thread | Last thread
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 12:00 AM
Original message
Is our Children Learnin'?
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:52 AM by NanceGreggs
Apparently some of them won’t be, as their parents prevent them from attending school for a day rather than risk exposure to a speech by the President of the United States on the topic of education.

Well, you can’t be too careful. As one shining light of the GOP once put it, “A mind is a terrible thing to lose” – and encouraging kids to stay in school and get a good education could mean losing them as Republican voters in future.

In some respects, I can understand the concerns of people who are honestly looking out for their kiddies’ wellbeing.

Despite the best efforts of many parents to shield their children from the horrors of a certain event, some of them may have seen video footage or photographs of G.W. Bush sitting in a classroom, reading The Pet Goat on 9-11. One can imagine the déjà vu-invoked trauma these kids might experience – fearing that this might be yet another time when a president interacting with students will end with him sitting there doing nothing while their nation is under attack.

There is also the real fear that if their lil’ darlin’s take education seriously at the President’s behest, they might grow up to be “elitists” who know how to spell, punctuate, and speak English properly – could even go so far as to read a book now and again.

Imagine the embarrassment of these parents in later years, unable to plaster bumperstickers on their fenders that read “Proud of my high school drop-out!”, or, “My kids are Patriots – that’s why they don’t listen to no stinkin’ President!” The mind boggles.

Also to be considered is the uncomfortable questions some moms and dads would face should their children make that oh-so-obvious comparison: “Hey, mommy, how come this president makes sense when he talks, and the ‘nother one sounded like an idiot?”

Of course, it could also go the other way, which would delight the parents who extolled the virtues of Bush for the past eight years: “Mommy, this president isn’t funny like the last one – he hasn’t tried to open a door the wrong way even once!”

For many well-meaning moms and pops, the greatest fear is fear of the unknown. While they know that Obama’s speech has been designed to address the topic of the value of education, there is always the possibility that he might “slip up” and mention that the Earth is not flat, and actually revolves around the Sun - rather than vice versa. Now there’s something no self-respecting parent wants to have to explain at the dinner table.

The rumors are rampant – and, as usual, are as ridiculous as stories about death squads and an all-out effort by the Democrats to guillotine poor ol’ granny in the town square as an example to those who don’t adopt Muslinism.

According to some of the fair and balanced persuasion, Obama will be speaking to our youngsters about healthcare reform and homosexuality. I, for one, am not putting it past him – I’ve heard he’s also including a PowerPoint presentation on the intricacies of determining gross national product, along with a three-hour lecture on the successes and failures of the nation’s foreign policy in the Middle East from 1793 to the present day. But then, it’s only rumor.

And then there’s the obvious – the truth that many parents have tried to keep from being absorbed by impressionable young minds: the President of the United States IS black. And once they see him up on that TV screen – well, there’s no going back, is there?

Amidst all of the nonsense being spewed by the rightwing, my personal favorite is the concept that “the opposition” should have a right to present a counter argument after Obama’s speech – although I must admit that actually hearing the “opposition” talking points to staying in school and getting an education would undoubtedly be the best entertainment available since – well, probably since Sarah Palin described being able to see Russia from her house as constituting experience in foreign affairs.

And exactly who are these stalwart parents so eager to protect their offspring from the words of a duly-elected POTUS? They’re the same parents who had no problem exposing their kids to the intellectual genius who spoke about the importance of putting food on your family, who candidly broached the subject of doctors being able to practice love with their female patients, the Christian role model who embraced torture – the modern-day philosopher who once dazzled the edumacated world with his observation that, “Yeah, China is big, too.”

These are the people who will steadfastly refuse to allow their precious poppets to be exposed to subversive, un-American ideas like allowing an education to open their minds to the possibilities in life, setting goals in their school years and striving to achieve them, adopting habits like the self-discipline of study that might prove useful in their adult years – the same people who are attending teabagging events even as we speak, carrying signs that declare they are not socialtists and want English to be declared the ofical languge of their beloved country.

If you’ve ever wondered where the Republican base of the future will come from, I’d advise you to take down the names of the students who won’t be allowed to listen to Obama’s address next week – because those are the same names you’ll see on GOP voting rolls in future.

Where will all of this insanity wind up? Well, we all remember what it was like when WE were kids – the minute our parents told us not to listen to something, we were in the schoolyard the next day, asking those who were allowed, or managed to eavesdrop, what was said. Of course the kids nowadays don’t have to resort to second-hand schoolyard hearsay – they have the internetz.

I predict that the YouTube posts of Obama’s speech are going to be very popular, because nothing has the allure of the forbidden – and nothing resonates in an impressionable young mind like the very words he was warned not to heed.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
   Replies to this thread
   My God, Nance!  CaliforniaPeggy   Sep-04-09 12:07 AM   #1 
   My question is: Are the so-called adults learnin'?  JeffR   Sep-04-09 12:10 AM   #2 
   Ohoo forbidding books.  rwheeler31   Sep-04-09 12:22 AM   #3 
   You should write for Bill Maher...seriously.  HopeOverFear   Sep-04-09 12:25 AM   #4 
   K&R  slay   Sep-04-09 12:47 AM   #5 
   Best rant in a long time, Nance!  intheflow   Sep-04-09 12:52 AM   #6 
   Ya see?  madamesilverspurs   Sep-04-09 01:44 AM   #7 
   No he's not...he's half white...  mscuedawg   Sep-04-09 09:45 AM   #17 
   Hesh yore mouf. Decent rahtwangers don't matriculate  HillWilliam   Sep-04-09 01:27 PM   #20 
   When those of us who went to the public grade school  bleever   Sep-04-09 01:47 AM   #8 
   My Daddy Won't Walk Me To Skool Tat day.  Oldtimeralso   Sep-04-09 01:55 AM   #9 
   Taboo is like a shiny object at the bottom of the pond....  FrenchieCat   Sep-04-09 01:57 AM   #10 
   These people will believe just about any goddamn thing, if it's told to them by a preacher or  Mythsaje   Sep-04-09 02:29 AM   #11 
   Nance - I hope this happens.  rosesaylavee   Sep-04-09 05:43 AM   #12 
   This-  asdjrocky   Sep-04-09 08:51 AM   #13 
   I tried to select a snippet to paste  SalmonChantedEvening   Sep-04-09 09:06 AM   #14 
   Unfortunately there isn't a "No Child of Teabaggers Left Behind" program.  JBoy   Sep-04-09 09:32 AM   #15 
   I heard a few years ago that somebody wanted to ban Powerpoint  Wetzelbill   Sep-04-09 09:43 AM   #16 
   Kids who would have snoozed through the President's speech will have devoured it  LuckyLib   Sep-04-09 12:03 PM   #18 
   kick  asdjrocky   Sep-04-09 01:25 PM   #19 
   Kicking again b/c this is too good to let sink!  intheflow   Sep-04-09 04:08 PM   #21 
   My children will be staying home Tuesday, not because they are showing the address, but because they  helderheid   Sep-04-09 04:18 PM   #22 
   Well done, Helderheid!  NanceGreggs   Sep-04-09 04:45 PM   #23 
      Thanks!!  helderheid   Sep-05-09 06:52 PM   #26 
   RW says: "Matriculate? You Can't Do That!"  Anakin Skywalker   Sep-04-09 11:54 PM   #24 
   On one side we have The Willful Dumbing Down of America..  Cha   Sep-05-09 12:17 AM   #25 
 
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 12:07 AM
Response to Original message
1. My God, Nance!
And those kids who get to listen?

They might actually learn how to think!

A long time ago, my dad told me that that is what school is for.

I never, ever forgot.

K&R

:patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
2. My question is: Are the so-called adults learnin'?
And apparently for a good 20% or so, the answer would be an emphatic no. And of course this same lunatic fringe would have been sitting up on their hind legs and cheering like meth-crazed baboons had their almighty W thought to speak to school kids this way.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
3. Ohoo forbidding books.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 12:25 AM
Response to Original message
4. You should write for Bill Maher...seriously.
Because that is A+ comic material right there. I can HEAR him saying every one of those words.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 12:47 AM
Response to Original message
5. K&R
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 12:48 AM by slay
Excellent post as usual Nance - I always enjoy them - you are an excellent writer. Your point about the fear these people have - despite it being irrational fear - is spot on.

*edited for spelling error
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
6. Best rant in a long time, Nance!Updated at 3:09 AM
It really is all about shutting the black man up, they'd never have pulled this level of bullshit outrage if he was a white Democrat. But as you say, the one thing the right never understands is how their own close-mindedness will come back to bite them in the ass--as it always does.

:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 01:44 AM
Response to Original message
7. Ya see?
This is ZACKLY what happens when them kids matriculates together and shares the same curriculums! That waht my Pappy said, anyways.







psssssttttt...the President is a Black guy, pass it on................
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mscuedawg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #7
17. No he's not...he's half white...
...at least that's the argument I got when I went 'round and 'round with a conservative hater after I brought up "could it be...racism?????"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HillWilliam Donating Member (968 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. Hesh yore mouf. Decent rahtwangers don't matriculate
well, maybe in the shower (but not really, they just wash fast). Everboddy knoOOOOOowwwwws the wages of matriculatin' is burnin in a lake of salt... or was that a pillar of smoke by day? I fergits. They dassn't need to read it for thierself; preachah will tell thim what to think. If thay needs to think at all. That thinkin stuffs plain too hard. Thay'd druther be out at Wal-Mart, half-nekkid with there buttcrack showin', with thayr wife stuffed into a tube top 14 sizes too small, lookin' like a can of biscuits busted open, buyin thair next piece of cheap Chinese shit. As a dedimacadid Repulican, it's ther job to consume imported crap at the expence of Amurrickan jobs.

But think? No'm. That isn't an agendum. Matriculate? They're damned sure that's downright sinful. It's in the Bible -- they'll tell you flat-out.

But you can shore bet yore arse they will wave that red-white-and-blue bit of cloth in your face, printed to look just exactly like Old Glory while telling you what a patriot they are and you ain't, even if that bit of cloth says "Made in China" on it.

Sunsabitches.

Never take your eyes off them. These are people who will trespass into your backyard to steal the sheets off your line and the wood off the side of your shed. Then they'll go to someone else's yard they don't know to burn a cross and beat them with a bible they don't read. You never, ever turn your back on a cow, a moose, or a right-winger. They're equally stupid, equally unpredictable, and equally dangerous. Jeebus save us from your fan-club.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 01:47 AM
Response to Original message
8. When those of us who went to the public grade school
crossed paths after school with the kids coming home from Catholic school, it was very clear (to me, at least), who had the most information about sin.

And damn it: I went to the same parish and Sunday school every Sunday! I was cheated by the failure of the public school system to outlaw enough stuff while detailing it to me!


Man, if porn ever gets on the internet, we're all in big trouble.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oldtimeralso Donating Member (931 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 01:55 AM
Response to Original message
9. My Daddy Won't Walk Me To Skool Tat day.
All Most eve ery otutter Days HE do, cause he due, cept the daze 8ight grade aint got no skool cause then he dont' got two go I goes at 6ixth grade. In for years i gonna pass he up. Daddy gona stay at 8ighth grade case he sweet on the teachr.
aInt Pubic edmacattion goodest in Freeperville.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 01:57 AM
Response to Original message
10. Taboo is like a shiny object at the bottom of the pond....
hard to turn away from it...cause you want to know what it is!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 02:29 AM
Response to Original message
11. These people will believe just about any goddamn thing, if it's told to them by a preacher or
a Republican politician. They don't have an ounce of common sense between them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 05:43 AM
Response to Original message
12. Nance - I hope this happens.
I had the same optimistic thought last night as I was reading that my very own school district here in IL is one that offered an 'opt out' to parents who didn't want their children to hear the President. Well, I am engaging in that battle today with our superintendent, the president of the school board and possibly others in our broken edumacational system here and I will use this idea that they are giving props to basic human curiosity. I doubt tho that it will send as big a chill to them as their letter to parents did to mine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asdjrocky (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 08:51 AM
Response to Original message
13. This-
"One can imagine the déjà vu-invoked trauma these kids might experience – fearing that this might be yet another time when a president interacting with students will end with him sitting there doing nothing while their nation is under attack."

And this-

"Also to be considered is the uncomfortable questions some moms and dads would face should their children make that oh-so-obvious comparison: “Hey, mommy, how come this president makes sense when he talks, and the ‘nother one sounded like an idiot?”"

Just two reasons why I always click on NanceGreggs posts.


Another winner.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
14. I tried to select a snippet to paste
That moment in this rant that had me grinning/cackling with glee the most. There is no one line, no such high point. It's all gold Nance.

Bravissimo. :hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 09:32 AM
Response to Original message
15. Unfortunately there isn't a "No Child of Teabaggers Left Behind" program.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wetzelbill (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 09:43 AM
Response to Original message
16. I heard a few years ago that somebody wanted to ban PowerpointUpdated at 4:21 PM
from being taught and used in their local school district because Al Gore used it in An Inconvenient Truth.

I just knew that if that got people all bothered, then the idea of a black man, a Dem no less, being broadcast to their children would really have them riled up.

I have to say, I remember Reagan speaking to kids at school, I was one of them. I wouldn't care if Bush did it or whomever, it's the damn President of the United States, I would hope they would take an interest in the education of children. It's just stupid to get mad over something like this. We live in a country where a certain segment of the population are outright fools.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
18.  Kids who would have snoozed through the President's speech will have devoured it
on YouTube by the next morning. Ain't censorship wonderful? Nothing quite so motivating!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asdjrocky (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 01:25 PM
Response to Original message
19. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 04:08 PM
Response to Original message
21. Kicking again b/c this is too good to let sink!Updated at 3:09 AM
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
22. My children will be staying home Tuesday, not because they are showing the address, but because they
WON'T show the address at their school. They'll stay home with me and watch it on C-Span, and then I'll take them back to school for the remainder of the day.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Sep-04-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Well done, Helderheid!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Sep-05-09 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. Thanks!!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-04-09 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
24. RW says: "Matriculate? You Can't Do That!"
"You'll go blind and grow hair in back of your hands!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Sep-05-09 12:17 AM
Response to Original message
25. On one side we have The Willful Dumbing Down of America..
and over here we have the brand new Obama Administration trying to do something about that.

"I predict that the YouTube posts of Obama’s speech are going to be very popular, because nothing has the allure of the forbidden – and nothing resonates in an impressionable young mind like the very words he was warned not to heed."

That's right..I feel good about this now.

Thanks Nance~

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov 22nd 2009, 05:29 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals  |  Links  |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2009 Democratic Underground, LLC