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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:56 AM
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when is Kerry going to shift discussion to the economy and jobs??
It seems to me that when he was doing well, the media was focused on the economy and all the outsourced jobs. I think Carville was right all along. "It's the economy, stupid". We need to get off of the war and start talking about the dismal economy again.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:58 AM
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1. You can't please everyone. There is always someone who says he's doing the
wrong thing.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:06 AM
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2. unfortunately, this year it's not "the economy, stupid" . . .
it's "security, stupid," and Bush is winning . . . Kerry should keep hitting on the economy, but to win he's also going to have to score big n the security/leadership/Iraq category . . .
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:09 AM
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3. Tomorrow with a new ad in 13 states.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:06 AM
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26. good to see..i think he has
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:14 AM
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4.  he's been ranting and raving about jobs, the economy and outsourcing
nonstop.

You can catch up on what he and John Edwards are saying and doing over at the c-span archives and at johnkerry.com.

I've heard him rant and rave about the economy, jobs, outsourcing - all of it. Multiple times. This past week.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:24 AM
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7. Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism.
Why do you infer they did? Nor have I ever heard Kerry rant or rave. He's very measured.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:43 AM
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12. haha - you infer I inferred? Read my post once more. Kerry rants and
raves in his own manner - I've heard him become very emotional, for Kerry. Go pick a fight elsewhere.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:16 AM
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5. the reasons alot of people arnn't with kerry...
is iraq and terrorism. he should keep talking about them i say.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:21 AM
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6. That's the campaign you've had since the convention
And Kerry is NOT ahead.

Time to try it our way. Time to talk about the war.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:27 AM
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8. Kerry Is Doing Just Fine
He's known for running his own campaigns and winning.
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:32 AM
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9. The media wont let him
When he tries to talk about health care and the environment and the economy he is ignored.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:36 AM
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10. Kerry Doesn't Control the Discussion - The Media Does i.e. Karl Rove Does
Kerry doesn't get to shift the discussion, because Kerry has no
control whatsoever over what the discussion is. That is decided
in the media board rooms in consultation with Karl Rove.

Kerry's miniscule advertising budget, even augmented with all the
Dem 527s, is not enough to shift any discussion anywhere.

The media is killing us.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:45 AM
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13. He's Doing Great.
Kerry doesn't have a miniscule opearating budget. Get that? No, he doesn't have the funds that the wealthy corporatists backing the GOP has, but he has a deep and fully rooted grass roots movement. I am especially pleased at the progress he is making in red states. People are waking up to the insanity of his war, our bad economy, and our lack of using our taxpayer monies to assist our own needy.

Bush claims to be a Christian who forgot the Golden Rule. I'll stick with Kerry.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:41 AM
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11. After Kerry
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 01:45 AM by Frenchie4Clark
addresses the two 800 pound elephants in the room loudly and inequovocally.....the War in Iraq...and the war on Terror.

Otherwise, most voters are going to say.....I CAN'T HEAR YOU.......

It's the war stupido!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:47 AM
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14. So What is Bush Doing to Win the "war"
He certainly doesn't have any of the Bush family fighting it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:06 AM
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16. It ain't about what Bush is doing....
we know that he's all wet. But the voters aided by the media mafia have the perception that Bush is doing just a dandy job....that's why Kerry has to speak about this non stop...until the sheeples connect the dots that Bush is helping terrorism with his approach...and technically helping recruit for Bin Laden. Kerry has to have the guts to say these things...and be controversial about it. And he needs some hard hitting commercials now! This ain't no time for positivity. Put Bush on the defensive and force him to answer questions.

Yep...it's the War Stupido!
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 01:54 AM
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15. Its about the war, not the economy
I don't know who told him to focus on domestic issues instead of the war, but that strategy was all wet.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:14 AM
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17. yup, its the war for sure.
no use denying it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:49 AM
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18. Yep...
that was tried, and it didn't work.

The elephant is in the room, period. Those who can't see it will lose the election, another period.

The economy is in Kerry's favor and he's been talking about it a lot. Time for Wartime president to be attacked and shut down--one last...... period.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:34 AM
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19. Bush will win UNLESS KERRY DISMANTLES BUSH ON NATIONAL SECURITY
Bush is perceived to be strong on National Security - look at the internals of any poll that is out there.

However you and I know that he is WEAK WEAK WEAK.

Kerry is perceived to be strong on economy and domestic agenda - look at the internals of any poll that is out there.

Kerry must HAMMER Bush on Iraq and Terror. He must show the poor judgement that Bushgang has used and the disasterousness of their decisions. He must show how Bush's policies have played into an INCREASE in TERRORISM and RECRUITING of TERRORISTS.
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a new day Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:24 AM
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23. Time to say Iraq is a t urkey
We have to get out of Iraq, it is only a matter of time.

This issue is putting the chains of Humbert Humphrey around Kerry neck, but at least Hubert was staying faithful to his own parties president.

No matter how bad Bush is, Kerry has to show how he's better.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:00 AM
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20. Not today. Today he will finally make clear what he is going to do in
Iraq.
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Richardson08 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:16 AM
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21. Kerry should clarify why he voted against the $87 billion
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 08:17 AM by DropTheGloves
Why doesn't Kerry just clarify why he voted against the $87 billion?How hard is it to just say that he wanted the administation to actually pay for the $87 billion instead of increasing the debt.The administration wanted to protect the tax cut for the rich instead of using that money to fund the $87 billion.It's not the first time the administration sought to protect those tax cuts instead of using that money for more increased security at our ports.It's unbelievable that more Americans do not care decreasing the debt and getting rid of the tax cuts on the rich
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:21 AM
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22. Well, he's been talking about the economy and jobs
for months now on the campaign trail and people have been complaining that he's not talking about Iraq and national security enough.

Some people are never satisfied.
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demfaithful Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:57 AM
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25. Saddam going on trail in October
This will be major news. The more people see his face and hear his name, the more votes Bush will get. This couldn't happen at a worse time.
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demfaithful Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:50 AM
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24. Kerry is going to use the Iraq war as his master plan against Bush
I think it is a huge mistake. Bush has tied Iraq and National Security into one big package. Kerry doesn't have enough time to untie this. We need to get the Kerry campaign to switch plans and go with the economy.
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