Support the Weiner Amendment to HR 3200 - Single Payer NOW!

[debbierlus]

http://www.change.org/healthcarenow/actions/view/please...

Sign the petition.

Fight for REAL health care reform. Forward it to your email list. Spread the word.

[Becky72]

1. As Obama has said, the move to single payer would be to too abrupt right now

The next step should be a less disruptive one; that is, a mixed system including a public option.

[DJ13]

2. Obama also said he wanted his supporters to push him

Well, this is a push.

[joeycola]

19. Seems many of the grassroots have gone AWOL

[Oregone]

3. Yes, fuck everyone that will die during the unabrupt (absent) transition

Seriously. Fuck them. Who are those poor fucks, who question our God? Fuck em. Give em bankruptcy or give them death

[Becky72]

4. People wouldn't necessarily have to die under the current plan

It would be universal, too.

[Oregone]

5. Mandated private insurance will kill as many as normal private insurance does

Ya do understand that, eh? Its not just the uninsured that are fucked now.


I could give two fucks anymore. They got you hook line and fuckn sinker. In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve.

[Becky72]

6. that would be "mandated public and private insurance"

Don't forget that it would be a mixed system.

[Oregone]

7. Fuck that

Your shiny trinket of a public option will cover 10 million in a decade (according to the CBO). Riiiight.


Thats not a "mixed" system (especially with a firewall). Thats a fucking illusion only an idiot would believe in.

[dflprincess]

14. You haven't been paying attention

most of us would be "mandated" to buy private insurance for the next several years (at least). The public option would be available to so few people calling it an "option" makes absolutely no sense. The whole thing is really just a gift to the private insurance companies who would really be the only ones "disrupted" by a Medicare for All plan.

[debbierlus]

13. It isn't about what the government will GIVE US, it is about what we DEMAND from it

It is up to the people to push for the best health care reform possible...

And, that is Single Payer. This amendment is offered as a addition to current legislation, not a seperate bill. If everyone who wants Single Payer (and that seems to include the people who don't think we can get it, but w.uld support it if they thought it was possible)...if we all support single payer and demand this amendment, it can happen.

The call has to overwhelm them, and make them afraid to vote against the amendment. I get so frustrated when people give up without doing ANYTHING but bitch about what is not possible. NOTHING is possible with that lay down and die attitude.

Even if you don't believe, call anyway.

Write anyway.

Do it anyway.

If everyone did this - we would win this fight no problem

[Amos Moses]

18. Isn't it strange that some people's main concern is that the

insurance companies be inconvenienced as little as possible? Is this a forum for Democrats or a forum for insurance industry claims adjusters?

[quantass]

8. Being Lucky enough to be born in a Single-Payer Country....

I empathize with the American people because being apart of it is like no other and its very sad that those who do oppose it clearly are being manipulated to fear what they dont know. It's intelligent people like those who reside on DU that can see Single Payer for what it is: the only real choice for real Healthcare reform. I admire that...to be able to look past the propaganda and see it for the benefits that it is.

However, that being said, knowing the complexity of the American living via the crazy manipulations of the media, and the easily scared public i see single payer as a losing strategy at this point. The wise course i feel is a "strong" public option because ultiamtely it lays the foundation for a single payer system. Remember, this is coming from someone who believes very much in a single payer system.

[Oregone]

9. "the only real choice for real Healthcare reform"

Its probably the only real first "incremental" step (not end-game in itself). Nothing else will seriously begin to control costs significantly (and $400 billion a year is significant). But, its merely a starting step. At some point, even single-payer nations will have to take the next step and start moving away from both a private and fee-per-service model in the actually health care delivery. Costs are climbing everywhere, Canada included.

Until the US even starts looking are significantly overhauling the insurance end, they will continue to bumble around in the dark. Band-aids won't cut it.

[joeycola]

20. With our current plans, they will continue to feed the insurance industry.

[NYC_SKP]

10. Done, 1107 out of 2500 signatory goals.

[BigBearJohn]

11. Signed, sealed, delivered! K/R!!!! n/t

[yodermon]

12. Is the CBO scoring that over the recess like Weiner said?

[joeycola]

21. I wonder if it IS being scored............

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2009/08/106922.html
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Priority Two: Senator Charles Schumer, member of the Senate Finance Committee.

As head of the Senate Democratic campaign committee, Schumer helped engineer the
Democratic takeover of the Senate and is one of its most influential members. He
has been asked by Sen. Baccus, Chair of the Finance Committee, to take the lead
on the public option. Schumer has sponsored single payer legislation as a member
of the House and State Assembly and has been pushing to get the Congressional
Budget Office to score (analyze) single payer.

Call Senator Schumer at his Washington, DC. office (direct line): 202-224-6542
and tell him:

"We urge Sen. Schumer to support the effort by Sen. Sanders to adopt a
single payer, Medicare for All type program such as Senate bill 703. We oppose
proposals such as insurance mandates and the public option a

[joeycola]

15. Rec

[slipslidingaway]

16. knr nt

[WillyT]

17. Done !!! - K & R !!!

[joeycola]

22. Ask the House of Representatives to order a budget scoring of H.R. 676 by the Congressional Budget O

I can not find that the single payer amendment has been asked to be scored. note the date here.




Vote YES on Single Payer, H.R. 676!
Aug 23, 2009 — admin


• Ask the House of Representatives to order a budget scoring of H.R. 676 by the Congressional Budget Office. View past scores of single payer legislation.

• Statement from the Baucus 8: Why we risked arrest for single payer health care................

http://www.prosperityagenda.us/node/88