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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:59 PM
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Hatch: using reconciliation to pass health care reform "would be an abuse of the process"
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), also appearing on Meet the Press, said that it would be an abuse of the process if the Democrats resort to using reconciliation in order to pass health care reform. Hatch argued that Democrats have decided they want the public insurance option at all costs, which means theyre going to go to reconciliation. He said that would set a dangerous precedent for using the process to pass legislation to solve other problems.

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Think Progress, June:

Frist On Using Reconciliation Process To Pass Health Care Reform: Its Legal, Its Ethical


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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:02 PM
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1. If reconcilation is an abuse of the process, what is the filibuster?
filibuster

a. the use of irregular or obstructive tactics by a member of a legislative assembly to prevent the adoption of a measure generally favored or to force a decision against the will of the majority.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/filibuster
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:05 PM
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2. Nice try, Hatch. Once this is done through reconciliation, the people will see how
much Obama was committed to improving the lives of sooo many people by any means necessary and those who tried to stop him will be seen as obstructionists. History proves the Repubs. have done the same thing.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:10 PM
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3. I don't give a fuck if it is an abuse of the process.
Rahm is right, this is going to get done by any legislative means necessary. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:11 PM
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4. Total bs. What was Bush's entire Presidency then?
Besides, it's use was passed into law.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:13 PM
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5. I wish someone would call these Repubs. when they cite "non-partisan experts" and they're
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 02:17 PM by jenmito
always referring to the Lewin Group-the Conservative, RW corporation.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:20 PM
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6. And fillibustering health care reform isn't?
:shrug:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:21 PM
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7. Don't you just love how shameless the Republicans are? I love them all!
Now, let's do what a Bolshevik government would have done and put the entire GOP treasonous rabble in Guantanamo, where they belong!

You can't appease these people!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:23 PM
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8. So?
If it gets 47 million more people health care, then I am all for the most shameless abuse of the process possible.

Hatch may not grasp that those uninsured people really couldn't give a rat's ass about th traditions of the Senate and obscure parliamentary procedures.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:26 PM
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9. I heard him also slip in that he considers a co-op a govt. plan, too, which means he'd
even be against THAT! So the Dems. have every opening to do this through reconciliation. The Repubs. are saying no to EVERYTHING.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:38 PM
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12. Completely agree
Hatch is a hypocrite, too. All Bush and the Repuke Congress did was abuse the process.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:28 PM
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10. Hatch is a used car sales person
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 02:35 PM by demwing
dressed up like a senator.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:31 PM
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11. used car sales people have more integrity than Hatch
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