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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:04 AM
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Obama's drop in his poll numbers is his BASE
Looks like Big Ed was right the other day when he said the drop in the polls is because Obama is loosing his base because of his handling of the health care issue. So with the media trying to pretend the blue bogs have the power in the party it's the liberals in the party that still rule.http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/president-obama/major...
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:06 AM
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1. Thank you! It's about time someone pointed this out. n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:09 AM
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2. Oh, noes! That's got t be a huge disappoint to you, his biggest fan.
How are you going to celebrate?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:16 AM
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4. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:15 AM
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3. If true, some Dems are stoopid. Just like RW freeptards, imo. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:35 AM
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11. +1
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:38 AM
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12. +2
If we weaken him enough, maybe we won't get any health care reform.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:40 AM
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13. That is always the danger. Better the base then independents though.
You can win the base back if you want to.
I think Obama got a clear message from us that we want public option. Its up to him now though I do see that there are conservadems not helping us.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:46 AM
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17. That's true.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:52 AM
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18. If you read the link it's both.
and it says the independents were the "greater" factor. Erosion of the base was 11%
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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:17 AM
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5. The loss of independents is a greater factor
it is true that there has been a significant drop among liberals. It's an important factor, but perhapsnot the major one. From your link:

WaPo polling analyst Agiesta cautioned that independents were likely a greater factor, but she said Obamas problems among Dems and liberals were clearly playing a key role: This is the first sign that something is going wrong with his base.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:44 AM
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16. Seems the prez is willing to piss away support from Dems and indies...
...for the sake of sucking up to enemies who'd like to see him dead. Great move.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:21 AM
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6. Actually disapproval with Democrats has much more to do with action
than with the President. Reasonable Democrats disapprove of how he's going about doing something while still supporting him in things we feel he's doing right. Most of us, I hope, are interested in what's best for the country rather than in the cult of personality. If Obama is losing his approval rating that's a good indication that the Americans who voted for him want him to do something differently. And hopefully it has nothing to do with whether they adore him or hate him regardless of what he does.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:28 AM
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7. Hopefully, it's a wake up call. If not, look for a progressive challenger in 2012. nt
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:31 AM
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8. It will be like Ted Kennedy challenging Carter all over again
Public ritual suicide of the Democratic Party as they throw away the majorities we created this time around.

All of which could be avoided if they all snapped out of it and acted like Democrats rather than DINOS and delivered meaningful healthcare reform.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:32 AM
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10. Yep - let's hope this is a wake up call for the Prez and Blue Dogs. nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:42 AM
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24. Bingo!
DINOS strike again.



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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:34 PM
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34. I seriously doubt there will be one
Carter was about as far to the right as a Democrat gets, so there Kennedy saw there was room for a challenge from the left - but it failed. Obama is considerably to the left and most prominent Democrats to his left are his allies. I simply can not think of any serious Democrat to his left who would (or could successfully) challenge him. I seriously doubt Kucinich could get more than the single digit support he got in the past.

Hillary Clinton is to his right and is part of his administration.

There is no 2012 "Kennedy".
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:31 AM
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9. Republicans know how to rally as a base - dems fracture
The republican base really is smarter, rationale, and more productive when it comes to creating change they want.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:40 AM
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14. Democrats rally for policies and not for politicians
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 10:41 AM by lunatica
Republicans rally for personalities regardless of how bad they are for the country. Thanks but I think Democrats are the ones who have it right. It doesn't take smarts to follow the leader blindly. It actually takes undiscerning stupidity.
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dolphindance Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:43 PM
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33. ...and in return never get those policies they want. Just new Republican politians.
How about we work with our guy this time instead of knocking him down?
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:17 PM
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37. All we want is a little proof that they are in fact
"our" guys. Not just corporate guys.
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