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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:42 AM
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An analysis of Sarah Palin's Facebook entry regarding Obama's "death panel"
Statement on the Current Health Care Debate
As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is dropping, and were saying not just no, but hell no!


Is Palin referring to Medicare, Medicaid, VA medical benefits and SCHIP (among others), which are "nationalized" government-run health care plans?

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care?


Besides that simplistic lie, does Palin also support Sowell's opinion that drugs should be decriminalized? Do government-run health care programs that already exist (as mentioned above) ration care? Sowell also had to walk back his email back in 2008 where he was exposed as a Birther.

The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course.


One would assume that healthy people would not need to have health care services, hence those that are sick, elderly or disabled are indeed the ones who would require health care services.

The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obamas death panel so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their level of productivity in society, whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.


Obamas death panel? This is a lie and fabrication that is based on using completely simplistic statements to make people be scared. Why not say that Obama is also a vampire who wants to suck the blood from little Alaskan children? There is absolutely no reference ANYWHERE that calls for a "death panel". There is some legislation regarding hospice care for those wishing to continue health care or not in their last days. There is absolutely no mentioning of selecting who lives or dies from some bureaucratic panel. This is just another example of how low Sarah Palin will go to use her children as props for her political selfish ends.

Health care by definition involves life and death decisions. Human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion.


Paging Captain Obvious! Captain Obvious! Perhaps mentioning that any health care discussion should also be done without unsocial screaming and lying by the Right.

Rep. Michele Bachmann highlighted the Orwellian thinking of the presidents health care advisor, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of the White House chief of staff, in a floor speech to the House of Representatives. I commend her for being a voice for the most precious members of our society, our children and our seniors.


:rofl: Wow. Citing loony crackpot Michele Bachmann as some kind of faux-intellectual talking point is enough to make this whole screed of hers laughable. Bachmann, no stranger to racketeering "prosperity gospel" Christianist thugs that are funding and part of the Party of No Manners Holligans yelping Freedomworks.com talking points at town meetings, uses fear tactics and outright lies to try to persuade people that seniors and disabled people will have their health care plans and coverage snatched away. Putting Palin and Bachmann together is absolutely the perfect vision of madness.


We must step up and engage in this most crucial debate. Nationalizing our health care system is a point of no return for government interference in the lives of its citizens. If we go down this path, there will be no turning back.


Again, is Palin referring to nationalized. government-run health care programs mentioned earlier? Where has she been? Never mind. Sarah, we have been down "that path" for a few decades already. Even dumbass Birthers have cried out "keep your government off my Medicare"... which sounds like they like their government-run health care, if they only knew it was run by the government...

Ronald Reagan once wrote, Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life well ever see on this earth. Lets stop and think and make our voices heard before its too late.

- Sarah Palin


Perhaps Palin doesn't realize that Reagan was initially for cutting Medicare and Medicaid and many in the medical community were fearful of rationing of health care. This is precisely what Palin would have feared if she truly had a couple brain cells in her skull. But Reagan, despite all his bluster about cutting health care, didn't do much. And he also bloated government and the deficit greatly during his corrupt administration. Add that the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC is the LARGEST goverment building in that town.

Palin's screed is awash in lies. She and Michelle Bachmann may enjoy appealing to the ever-shrinking Republican base, but people don't like liars. Or quitters.

Link (with loony Birther screwy comments):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1524364778&ref=n...
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:46 AM
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1. She is trying so hard to be relevant
Does she think her ramblings equal some sort of policy statement? The beauty of this is, if she ever does try to run for something, there is a pile of her written works to use against her. So do keep writing Sarah....
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:22 AM
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3. Palin seems obsessed with using her children as props for some kind of political gain
It's shameful that she is knowingly lying about the issue and using the term "death panel" because she is indeed an attention whore with possible mental health issues.

For her to imply that quitting her job as governor was a pretty good thing is a simple indication that she is nuts. And you can bet that the former governors and governors running in 2012 for the GOP nomination will absolutely skewer her with her own statements and actions.




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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:34 AM
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5. I think she was right about her saying that quitting her job
was a good thing. It's clear she has lost her mind. Any respect Alaskans had for her, is long gone, imo. So quitting was indeed a good thing since it's clear she is incompetent and obsessed with her ultra right wing rantings.

In this - I agree with her :hi:.
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:02 AM
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2. nice post
about someone I am sick of reading about. So I mean that as a double compliment.

Why don't we recognize AND ADDRESS the Goebbels-like style of these people. And not let them be the ones calling liberal types "Nazis" ? Is the progressive group as a whole too polite? I mean that seriously, as the moral unwillingness to be so willfully ignorant and purposefully harmful, selfish etc are real issues.
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Vicar In A Tutu Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:26 AM
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4. A pathetic qutter.
No heart, courage or resolve. To use a boxing analogy, she has a china chin and is unable to cope with even a glancing look at substantial policy. A pathetic woman who has been unable to do anything but burn with hatred despite having a blessed, remarkably easy life.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:38 AM
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6. Anyone who doesn't recognize that care is rationed NOW, simply doesn't know anything about the
situation.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:53 AM
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7. At least the insurance industry doesn't use "pre-existing conditions" to stop health care coverage
:eyes:

It's not rationing, it's "de-implementing"...

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:10 PM
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8. AND there are many, many, many "judgement" calls for stuff that is covered, especially
anything involving the elderly or acutely ill.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:53 PM
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9. The buzz phrase has a purpose...
...which is to associate a bogeyman with publicly funded health care. So she conjures up a phrase that implies mandatory death orders, and voila! We have the beginnings (or continuation) of a successful disinformation campaign.

Many people will simply embed the term "death panel" in their head, and just its being there triggers associated ideas like "death orders" and "kill Granny" (two other memes conveniently being pushed right now by the rabid right wing), and creates a natural distaste for anything associated with it. An embedded idea like that is most easily dislodged with another buzz phrase that can take its place. I suggest "Lie Factory", to describe what the Republicans and the health care industry in general have created. We can point out whenever we see one of these buzz phrases repeated, that it is right out of the <Republican | Health Insurance Industry> Lie Factory. Then you can explain how it works -- but the important thing is to have that buzz phrase to replace the ones people have in their heads now. The advantage of our buzz phrase is that it is true. The right has created a Lie Factory and we all know it. Their view of reality is based on a tissue of lies, and they keep promoting the lies to the rubes, er, constituents. Yewbetcha!

It is demonstrably an outright lie, of course, and we do need to point that out as well. Quote the text of the bill before Congress -- it makes no mention of such a panel, nor does it mandate end-of-life counseling. It says that such counseling is reimbursable. It is still up to the patient whether they wish to take advantage of the counseling benefit -- there is no coercion involved. That is such a far cry from what she says on her blog that in my opinion she has crossed a moral line. My question to Sarah Palin is this: "Have you no sense of decency, madame, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:21 AM
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10. Good propagandists make "catchy" phrases for the uninformed to parrot
We'll see signs like "No Deth Panil!" in rallies soon enough. Of course, these idiots don't even know how to spell these words...

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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:30 AM
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11. Okay, ex-Guv, let's get rid of Medicare then.
Seniors would be much better off with nothing than with something from the - quake! tremble! - government! :sarcasm:
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