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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 02:51 PM
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Lou Dobbs father was responsible for the assassination of Leon Trotsky
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 03:08 PM by grantcart
Its the internet so it must be true:

Lou Dobbs insightful and professional handling of internet questions about the birth of President Obama has had some unintended ricochets that Lou Dobbs may not have wanted.

Reporter Dewey Cheetham has advised that he will file this report tomorrow:




Lou Dobbs father responsible for assassination of Leon Trotsky




AP
Truth or Consequences New Mexico

Dewey Cheetham

Lou Dobbs has been throwing rocks at big targets (or as some people say pebbles at mirages) for some time. But taking the "Most Respected Name in News" into the morass of birther lunatics on the air has pulled him into the spotlight and gained some unwanted attention.

First Lou Dobbs replacement host debunks the issue and then Lou Dobbs follows a few nights later to rescind the reporting of his own show on his own network. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXmqTmRPAng&feature=player_embedded.

Then CNN/US President Joe Klein issued a memo that the 'Birther Story is Dead'; http://todaysnewsnj.blogspot.com/2009/07/president-of-cnn-tells-lou-dobbs.html. CNN Media Critic Howard Kurtz criticizes Lou Dobb's journalism by giving it air time saying that they are "ludicrous questions there is no evidence to support their claims": http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/26/kurtz-dobbs-birther/

Dobbs stands by his reading of the internet role in establishing reasonable questions, "A lot of questions remaining because they have not been dealt with reasonably".

Now Dobbs becomes a focus of internet inquiry

Following his high profile examination of President Obama's birth certificate "The Center For American Free Thought" has done a thorough investigation of Dobbs birth certificate and now confirms that there are "serious questions" about Dobbs birthplace and growing evidence that Dobbs was,in fact, born in Mexico and that his Birth Certificate is a forgery. http://open.salon.com/blog/mortimer_hayden_smyth/2009/07/22/shocking_report_lou_dobbs_birth_certificate_a_fake

Now sources close to Joseph Hansen's family have given me what appears to be a diary. In this diary it contains details about a trip that Farrell Dobbs (Lou has changed his dad's name to Frank in his official biography to avoid the resulting scandal) took to Mexico a few years before Lou Dobbs was born.

Farrell Dobbs was born a conservative Republican but became a revolutionary supporter of Leon Trotsky. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrell_Dobbs




Dobbs met the Russian revolutionary leader Leon Trotsky when he visited Mexico shortly before Trotsky's death in 1940.



During this visit Farrell Dobbs had become violently ill with gastronomical distress and was taken to a nearby clinic. Shortly thereafter Ramon Mercardor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n_Mercader drove an ice pick into the head of Trotsky. The guards returning with the now treated Dobbs caught the assassin and at Trotsky's behest did not kill him but handed him over to authorities.

There was considerable criticism and speculation of Farrell Dobbs that he was part of the NKVD and a planned diversion that finally enabled the NKVD to kill Trotsky after so many attempts.

While the question of Farrell Dodd's ideological purity as a Trotskyite would remain a controversy until his death it was widely known that Farrell Dodd continued to live in hiding in Mexico and that is where Lou Dobbs was born.

Lou Dobbs was unavailable for comment as we took this story to press.




Cheetham has had a number of scoops here are some others:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/187
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/186
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/185
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/176


So Lou how do you like them apples?
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 02:57 PM
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1. Yikes!
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 03:11 PM by panader0
Here we go again. Please keep me informed.
Ferrell Dobbs was a leftist union organizer. He was the Socialist Worker's Party presidential candidate for years. He met Trotsky in Mexico City in 1940. He was supposed to be a bodyguard for Trotsky, who was being targeted by Stalinists because Trotsky was critical of Stalin. After being exiled from Russia in 1935, Trotsky moved to France and then Norway before going to Mexico in '38 where he lived with Diego Rivera (the muralist) and his wife Frita Kahlo (the artist). Trotsky has an affair with Kahlo. Ferrell Dobbs also visited Cuba after Castro, met with Che too. Is Ferrell Dobbs the father of Lou? Or is Lou's dad named Frank? Frank Dobbs who also had dealings in Mexico. Was Lou born in Mexico? Did Ferrell Dobbs screw Frita Kahlo? Did Diego Rivera watch? Questions that need answering Lou!~
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:07 PM
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3. I certainly will
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:24 PM
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6. very interesting
I have to wonder what else Dobb's is - dare i even say it - no i won't. I won't say 'hiding'. Because that would not be right of me to say it.

I wonder why Dobb's won't address these 'internet' rumors head on. What's he, dare i say, 'afraid' of. Is he trying to hide something? One has to wonder? I love America too much not to think these or ask questions about what could be a very, very serious issue.

Come clean Dobb's. Stop hiding from these allegations.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:32 PM
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8. This story is all over the internet - why won't Dobbs respond?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:29 PM
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7. It makes you wonder what else Lou is hiding


It is also known that Lou is married to a Mexican.

Maybe all his bashing of immigrants is the same kind of self hating recrimination that we saw in history by some who tried to hide their Jewish lineage by attacking Jews or some in more recent history that tried to hide their real background by attacking gays, ala J. Edgar.

Could all of this bashing of illegal immigration simply be Dodds acting out because of the scandals of his past.


Lou could settle this with some clear documents, not the fakes that he has provided so far.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:54 PM
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24. I just fainted ~ Lou is married to an Hispanic
Bet he tried to change her birth certificate.

Poor lady to be married to that evil man.

Divorce him while you can Mrs.Dobbs!

He will have you packing and say you are "illegal."
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 02:20 PM
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44.  Farrell Dobbs is certainly Lou Dobbs father. Absolutely - Rush told me so it must be true.
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 02:40 PM by leveymg
Lou Dobbs was born in September 1945 the son of a small town Texas propane dealer. Farrell Dobbs was the National Secretary of the Socialist Workers Party, and was imprisoned in Michigan until after the end of World War Two. (I am prepared, however, to entertain the possibility that Lou Dobbs is J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.)

Wiki's bio of Lou Dobbs - "Born in Childress County, Texas, according to offical Texas birth records, Dobbs was born the son of Frank Dobbs, a co-owner of a propane business, and Lydia Mae Hensley, a bookkeeper.<1> When Dobbs was 12, his father's propane business failed and the family moved to Rupert, Idaho.<2> He attended Minico High School in Minidoka County, serving as student body president in 1963."

Bio of Farrell Dobbs at Spartacus Schoolnet - http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAdobbsF.htm -

Farrell Dobbs, the son of a coal miner, was born in Queen City, Missouri in 1907. After being educated at North High School in Minneapolis he moved to North Dakota in search of work. At this time he held conservative political views and supported the Republican Party and in 1928 voted for Herbert Hoover.

Dobbs worked for the Pittsburgh Coal Company in Minneapolis and as a member of the Teamsters became involved in an industrial dispute in 1934. Dobbs was radicalized by the strike and soon afterwards joined the Communist League of America, a organization influenced by the ideas of Leon Trotsky.

In 1936 Dobbs became recording secretary of Teamsters Local 574 and by the following year it had 125,000 members. Eventually the president of the Teamsters, Dan Tobin, recruited Dobbs as a national organizer but in 1939 he decided to work full-time for the Socialist Workers Party (SWP).

Dobbs travelled to Mexico to meet Leon Trotsky in 1940. Soon after arriving back in the United States he was arrested under the Alien Registration Act. He was detained in Sandstone Prison (MI) and was not released until after the end of the Second World War.

After his release Dobbs became editor of The Militant and replaced James Cannon as national secretary of the Socialist Workers Party in 1953.


Dobbs was the SWP's presidential candidate in 1960 but received only 60,166 votes. He retired as the SWP's national secretary in 1972 and died on 31st October, 1983.




The one, the only real J.R. "Bob" Dobbs" - but, we are all Bobs. Aren't we, Dobbs?




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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:33 PM
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51. Apparently Dobbs conception was the result of a conjugal visit.


Now what is Dewey's proof of this?


Every night we see Dobbs go off on some point but he has never criticised conjugal visits.


The facts speak for themselves, however if Lou wants to

1) supply a non doctored birth certificate

2) records of this first three years of primary school

3) DNA sample

4) The visitation records of Sandstone Prison for Farrell Dobbs


then we could get this all cleared up in a minute or so.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 02:59 PM
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2. Wow! Thanks for this report. Trotsky is a hero of mine.
What a story.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:20 PM
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4. Lou can put all this to rest by showing the vault copy of his birth certificate.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:24 PM
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5. And, the fact that he hasn't is PROOF that
the above story is true.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:33 PM
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9. And only the "long form" will do
None of this "Certificate of Live Birth" crap, either.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:39 PM
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10. The man second from the left has an uncanny resemblance to 'Farrell Dobbs'
or as he was known then, Comrade Sergei Ivanovich.


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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:49 PM
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11. it was an ice axe, not an ice pick, not that it matters that much
I'm not entirely sure you could drive an ice pick into someone's head enough to kill him/her. It has been described as the pick on an ice axe.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:56 PM
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14. you are correct, and he did survive for about a day.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:25 PM
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22. An ice pick did in Fritz the Cat
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:39 PM
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52. And Morris 'Morrie' Kessler the Toupee salesman.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:52 PM
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12. So Lou Dobb's father was an Stalinist agent?
:) Got it. The interweb speaks the truth.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:54 PM
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13. I always thought he was related to this man
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:58 PM
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15. ah the blessed anti-virgin
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:12 PM
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18. Actually, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs and Lou Dobbs are the same person. Lou was born with a pipe in his mouth
and only removes it when he wants to travel incognito
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:04 PM
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16. Oh, dear.
Has Dewey Cheetham left his law practice with Howe?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:09 PM
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17. No he still practices but unlike Orly Taitz he has given up his dental practice
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:17 PM
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19. Holy shit. That is so rich! ROLF.
Can we deport his ass?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:18 PM
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20. If only Lou would come clean with the certificate.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:33 PM
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46. ROLF. (Rolling on ledge farting?)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:58 PM
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21. LOL
:rofl:
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:29 PM
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23. Thanks for blowing the sombrero off this one...
"A lot of questions remaining because they have not been dealt with reasonably".

Amazing how people (even those who lost loved ones) who say that about 9/11 are labeled 'nuts'.

GO NYC-CAN!
www.nyccan.org
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:55 PM
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25. LOL....the ultimate Karma - Dobbs is a Mexican. I so wish it were
true.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:28 PM
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27. Well sometimes Karma needs a little help
Dewey Cheetham has always been Karma's good friend

Now having a Trotskyite American follower named Dobbs who actually visits Trotsky a few days before he is murdered.


That is a Karma opening that Dewey couldn't pass up.
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 06:37 PM
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26. Post this on FR
and they will be declaring the Dobbs family the most patriotic of all time.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 10:28 PM
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28. ha... ha... karma is a bitch
the chicken has come home to roost....:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 10:35 PM
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29. I've heard of this story recently......and I see no proof to the contrary.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:05 AM
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30. If only Lou would provide the papers we could clear this up in a minute

What else is Lou hiding?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:31 PM
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45. We need your papers Lou!
LOL but really seriously, he is always talking about others and putting people down -- give it up LOU! Where are your papers!

If we don't get them quickly, we'll send you back to Mexico!

He is one evil man.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:03 AM
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31. Actually, when Frida and I were cheating on Diego in Mexico,
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 10:11 AM by cliffordu
that POS Dobbs' guttersnipe drunk and wannabe socialist father (who certainly new almost NOTHING of our workers struggle) evidently spawned Lou from an unholy tryst with a donkey or, perhaps an armadillo.

Dobbs' father - Farrel (we called him Emil) - was completely degenerate in mind and body, in thought and philosophy. His effect on poor Lou is incalculable and might explain to a great degree Lou's Xenophobia and his peculiar diet consisting of only items he can unearth from damp soil with his sizable and sharp claws.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:27 AM
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33. Lou the questions continue, now this could all be cleared up if you

supply your birth certificate,

all report cards from primary school,

and a DNA sample.


What do you have to hide Emil, er Lou?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:54 AM
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34. Now THAT's art!
:loveya:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:57 AM
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35. great you had to encourage him didn't you!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:58 AM
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36. read my screen name again
;) it's what I do.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:41 PM
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40. I heard he could dig Truffles with the best.
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 12:45 PM by cliffordu
A half armadillo that digs truffles....priceless as a freakshow if nothing else.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 02:08 PM
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43. I try to start a reasonable fact based thread and some clown from Oregon
has to hijack it and bring it into disrupte.


This thread is for starting rumors not DUzys!!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:22 PM
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47. Another Bushy child tragically left behind....
I'm from Washington state, numbnuts.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:39 PM
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48. aha you fell into my trap now East or West?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 04:50 PM
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49. Western....Ma is from Wapato. Could be Dewy is daddy....
HAHA HAHHAH A HAH AH AH AH AH AH Aha

:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:42 PM
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41. People from Spokane........
:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:41 PM
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39. Aw, shucks, thanks!!!
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 10:25 AM
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32. Dewey Cheetham?
hmmmmmmm
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:59 AM
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37. Dewey never made the "Best News Team in Television"

He started out in double A News making shit up in Yakima before moving up to triple A News in Ogden.


He did have a few short trips to the big show but his constant drinking on camera proved to be a downfall and now he has settled into a permanet fixture as a member of the "Seventh Best News Team" at AP.


But by Lou Dobbs journalistic standards he should be on primetime.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:54 PM
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42. IIRC, Dewy was actually started in Wapato, and after his radio gig there
bombed he wound up in Toppenish, reading the hog future reports at 4 in the morning, and then Zillah where his career really took off as a call in-farm implement help line shock jock....His favorite line from what I remember was ".....Fuck you and the John Deere you rode in on, mom!!!!

Which of course paved the way for Letterman's chronic dependence on HIS mother for 'humor'.

Dewey's contribution to the media is, as plainly seen, incalculable.





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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:02 PM
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38. KnR
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:22 PM
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50. .
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 05:37 PM by anonymous171
:spray:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:12 PM
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53. it may have something to do with that poor girl being murdered
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:28 PM
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54. Lou Dobbsky. Spawn of an armadillo. That explains everything.
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 08:28 PM by bertman
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