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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:26 PM
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Cambridge Police have some explaining to do--Why were there two different police reports?
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 03:29 PM by Blue_Roses
Cambridge "It began with a well-known black Harvard professor trying to get into his own home last week after a week away in China. It ended with the man, Henry Louis Gates Jr., being hauled off to jail for disorderly conduct and the Cambridge Police Department facing accusations of racial profiling.


The charges against Gates were abruptly dropped Tuesday and the incident called regrettable and unfortunate in a joint press release from the city and police department.
"Cambridge Police refused comment and denied public records requests after arresting one of the countrys most respected African-American scholars outside his home last week."

--snip--

Cambridge Police Monday invoked an investigatory exemption to the Freedom of Information Act and refused to release the arrest report or answer questions about the incident. They cited the ongoing investigation into the disorderly conduct arrest, even though the report made its way to various news outlets, including the Chronicle and Boston Globe."


--snip--

"Meanwhile, for reasons that the paper has declined to explain. the Globe briefly removed a copy of Gates arrest report, only to replace it later with a version with far less detail.

In an e-mail, Dave Beard, a Globe editor would only say the report was less important with charges dropped. Cambridge Police spokesman Jimmy DiFrancesco said the department is looking into who leaked the report to the press.

The Chronicle has the original document posted on its Web site, WickedLocalCambridge.com."


more...


http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x639771064/Wi...


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"Cambridge PD looking into leaked police report

Cambridge Police spokesman Jimmy DiFrancesco tells me the department is looking into who leaked the Henry Louis Gates police report to the media. Were in the process of seeing where it came from, said DiFrancesco.

If you remember, the departments legal adviser, Kelly Downes, cited an investigatory exemption (Exemption F) for not releasing the report. We eventually got our hands on the report as it made its way from media outlet to media outlet, only after Boston.com posted an unredacted copy of the report"


http://blogs.townonline.com/cambridge/2009/07/21/cambri... /




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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:29 PM
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1. Hush. Gates was tumultuous. That's all we need to know.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:30 PM
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2. One of those..
"the plot thickens", incidents?
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:32 PM
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3. Could it be that they are also wondering why the person who called the police said that
there were TWO YOUNG black men WITH BACKPACKS trying to break into the house?

How far away, or hallucinogenic, does a person have to be to confuse a 58 year old black man, walking with a limp and a cane, as TWO YOUNG black men WITH BACKPACKS?

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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:38 PM
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6. I'm guessing it is because he enlisted the help of the limo driver to force the door open.
The limo driver carried his luggage which may have included something carried over the shoulder???? Just a guess.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:44 PM
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8. I wonder if the limo was still there when the citizen reported the incident.
If the citizen had been smart to take pictures with their camera if they had that capability. And then transmit to e911 if they have capability of receiving such transmissions. And e911 could had transmit it to the responding officer.

That's an idea to consider.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:45 PM
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9. I don't think the citizen was that smart
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 06:05 PM
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22. If he was a limo driver, then certainly there would have been a limo right?
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 06:06 PM by 4lbs
And this person who made the call to police should have seen the limo parked in front of the house.

So, how many house burglars do you know that ride around in limos?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:33 PM
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4. I'm starting to wonder if Gates' race is clouding a seperate
issue - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:33 PM
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5. Oh boy, this could get REAL interesting if there IS two 'versions' of..
the police report. Once a police report is filed, is the officer filing that report or anyone else allowed to make changes to it? Once it is 'signed off' on by the officer, is it not a legal document not to be subjected to changes?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:42 PM
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7. Yeah, and look who is over the "RECORDS UNIT"...
Sergeant - James Crowley

"The Cambridge Police Department's Records Unit is a controlled public service area which stores all police records and reports. The Records Unit distributes certain reports to the public and to various law enforcement agencies, such as the FBI, U.S. Secret Service, and the U.S. State Department. The Records Unit houses files pertaining to arrests, incidents, and accidents. The unit also issues and archives FID Cards and Licenses to Carry Firearms. As with other units of the Cambridge Police Department, the Records Unit adheres to strict standards of confidentiality: nothing about a report is discussed over the telephone"

link...


http://www.cambridgema.gov/CPD/PoliceUnits/police_unit....
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:50 PM
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10. Oh my, that is certainly interesting....
if there is, indeed, two versions of the report. I was glad to see this in your OP:

"The Chronicle has the original document posted on its Web site, WickedLocalCambridge.com."

The original may well come in handy when the 'official' report becomes public.



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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:54 PM
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12. the report that was leaked had the comments about Gates saying
"I'll talk to ya mama outside"... :wtf:

That doesn't even sound like something he would say.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:32 PM
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16. yeah, that was a
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 04:32 PM by fishwax
:wtf:

Sounded like a bit of caricature.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:43 PM
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17. Yes, it struck me as odd when I first read it....
If that comment is NOT in the 'official' report I expect there will be some ramifications to the report being changed.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:50 PM
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18. I know what you're implying and I'm going to keep my mouth shut because that will make me explode.
I can't think too much about how far that will go. Ugh.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:01 PM
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19. There are two! No wonder I was confused. I posted this one last night:
This is the shorter version, which I posted here

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_PDF/2009/07...

Then a commenter posted this, longer version:

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/Police%20report%20on%...

I was wondering how that happened!


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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:05 AM
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24. reading that ridiculous report screams
BULLSHIT!
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:52 PM
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11. Obama is right. The cop was stupid and racist
It is one thing to investigate properly.

But this guy let his biases show by continuing to bullshit Gates when Gates was asking for his ID.

It was an argument over authority and the cop abused his authority, based on the original report once he knew that Gates was the legal resident.

I suspect prejudice played a role in the original report, but that is much harder to establish. If two white men were jimmying Gates' door i am sure he would be pleased that the cops were called -- African American men too trying to jimmy his door would probably piss Gates off if they did not have permission.

So the initial investigation may have been justified and the cop actually instigated and inflamed this incident as near as I can tell.

He could and should have walked away.

Any other human being in Gates house being an asshole would have been arrested but because this cop was getting pwned by Gates for his approach and attitude, he arrested gates. THAT is a civil rights violation based on prejudice and abuse of power IMHO.

That is based on my reading of the original report
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:56 PM
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13. Once the cop realized that Gates did indeed live there, he should have apologized
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 03:56 PM by Blue_Roses
for the inconvenience and left!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:20 PM
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14. Hmmmmm
This issue sure isn't going away as quickly as some might want it to.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:32 PM
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15. Because a lot of people just refuse to admit that the cop
went too far.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:03 PM
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20. I assumed there was the cop's statement and then there was Gates' statement,
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 05:04 PM by kestrel91316
and both statements went into the one report.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:07 PM
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21. Gates had no statement in the police report
See this diary:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/22/756574/-Henry-L...

Here is Gates account of what happened, from an interview:

http://www.theroot.com/views/skip-gates-speaks?page=0,0

Here is the shorter police report:

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_PDF/2009/07...

And here is the longer one:

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/Police%20report%20on%...

I don't know which report came first. Gates' attorney also released a statement, which is available on the internets somewhere if you'll poke around.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 06:09 PM
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23. ******The Chronicle has the original document posted on its Web site, WickedLocalCambridge.com*****
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