Damn. Obama's approval rating is tanking.

[scheming daemons]

Oh.. wait... no it's not.

Approval: 60
Disapproval: 33

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx


Guess what his approval was back on Feb 23, just a month after inauguration:

59%


Despite the carping on the left... and the open insurrection and treason on the right.... 3 out of 5 American *STILL* approve of the job Obama is doing.

His approval rating has been between 56 and 68 for his entire presidency. It's actually amazingly very static.


Sorry to disappoint all the haters... but 3 out of 5 Americans loves the guy. And it hasn't changed, despite your best efforts.

[DrToast]

1. So do you think he'll finish his first term?

Or will he be forced out in shame over the terrible job he's doing?

;)

[scheming daemons]

2. The 10% that's the far left hate him.. the 30% that's the far right hate him...

The rest of us like him.

[izquierdista]

8. We 10% don't hate him

We're impatient with his foot dragging.

[scheming daemons]

9. Using the term "foot dragging" for a Presidency that is 6 months old is assinine...

...and there actually has been very little "foot-dragging" anyway...


Very few Presidents have done as much in such a little amount of time as Obama.

FDR may be the only one in our history that did more in such a short time.

[izquierdista]

14. Really?

Don't ask, don't tell? :cricketschirping:
Withdrawal from Iraq? :morecricketschirping:
Replacing US attorneys before they can go on a partisan witch hunt? :evenmorecrickets:

At least his leisurely pace is working in the health care debate. The longer it goes on, and the more it is discussed, the worse the status quo looks.

[scheming daemons]

19. Leisurely pace on Health Care?

The most important legislation since the Civil Rights Act of 1965.


For a piece of legislation this big, this important... this has been, by Washington's historical standards, a complete rush job.


I'm guessing you're <30 years old. Nobody over 30 could think the pace on the Health Care legislation is going "leisurely".


As for your other items:

1. DADT is in the works. It needs congress to act, and they will. They're up to their eyeballs in the Health Care legislation that you are complaining about going too slow.

2. Withdrawal from Iraq? It's already begun, and is on pace to be complete by late 2010. Which is a pretty fast amount of time to move 130,000 troops and all their equipment. When they're done, there'll be a residual force of <20,000 left... similar to what we've had in Germany since the end of WWII and in S. Korea since 1952. Again... your youth an ignorance makes you think of 18 months as "slow". In geopolitical terms, it's not.

3. Replacing US attorneys? Um.. the LAST President and his AG Gonzalez caused an uproar by removing all the US attorney's that had "liberal leanings", regardless of how good they were at their job. This was wrong. And your answer to this is tit-for-tat, to do the same thing Bush/Gonzalez/Rove did? Sorry.. no... we don't fire competent people because of their political leanings in this country... or at least we shouldn't.


Your complaints about Obama are those of a petulant child who has no concept of how Washington works. You're like the teenager who screams at the microwave oven because her popcorn is taking too long.

2 years is quick turnaround for legislation in Congress. 6 months is the blink of an eye. The Health Care legislation is moving at light-speed by Washington standards.

[izquierdista]

25. Wrong, wrong, wrong

I've been waiting 40 years to see a liberal elected. I was quite disappointed that in 1976 and in 1992, the conservative Southerner ended up being the Democratic standard bearer, even though I did vote for them.

1. DADT in the works, please, I found his argument lacking about having to wait for Congress. Truman waited six months between deciding to desegregate the military and signing Executive Order 9981. Which means Obama has about two more weeks. I'm waiting.

2. I remember when Ford kept dicking around and Congress cut off funding for the VietNam war. That was the kind of change I could believe in!

3. I'm talking about the standard change in US Attorneys that takes place with every incoming administration. It seems that Obama didn't have a new slate to go in January, so here we are six months later and the Republican holdover US attorney in North Carolina has decided to start a couple witch-hunts so he can hang onto his job: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hDOz7xHU_h_AnyP4_BL9x6rf8wvAD99G2EM01

And tell me, o wise one, how does Washington work? Seems like the Patriot Act moved along a bit faster than this health care reform. How do you account for that?

[Bette Noir]

40. If I may interject,

The Patriot Act passed, and quickly, because of a little incident caused by foreign intervention in the fall of '01. Or don't you remember that?

[dflprincess]

79. The Patriot Act is a fine example of what happens when legislation is passed too quickly

Congress didn't even take the time to read the damn thing before they voted.

[ElboRuum]

54. I'll answer that...

Ah, yes, the vaunted Patriot Act... yes, that wonderful piece of legislation slammed through Congress on misinformation, fear, and a deep desire for revenge after 9/11. Well, see, you should be HAPPY with legislation which proceeds at a more sedate pace, because you already know KNOW what happens when people feel more than they think.

Health care reform is BETTER SERVED through a more reasoned approach. Of course you know that and your strawman does too.

[Richardo]

26. +1

:thumbsup:

[dflprincess]

27. Actually I'm concerned about how quickly he's trying to ram a healthcare bill through Congress

I'd rather they take some time and come up with something decent rather than the half-assed thing that came out of the House this week. Once something is passed it will be a whole lot harder to fix.

Remember how "well" the swift action taken on the Patriot Act and TARP worked for us.

[rpannier]

67. Disagree

He needs to get this out there and push it hard to prevent the Republicans and the 24-hour spin media from killing it.

Insurance companies and their lobbyists have made it clear that dragging it out is the best way to kill reform.

[DeadEyeDyck]

69. I would agree in that the health care

program should be fully debated and then passed with overwhelming support. This bill will re-shape the government more than even social security. It will be completely ground-breaking. After health care reform, it will be easy to pass any progressive programs.

[dflprincess]

75. We really shouldn't need more than 51 votes n the Senate

the public overwhelmingly supports real reform and it should be the public's opinion that counts. I'm just concerned they're going to pass a half-assed bill that's more concerned with protecting the insurance companies and has a public option that's been set up to fail if they don't take the time to hammer out a real solution.

The revamped Romney Care bill that came out of House last week has some pretty hefty annual out of pocket expenses for those who fall outside the income limits and that just isn't reform, that's just shoring up the status quo. If they aren't careful, they'll make the situation worse.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

76. Political capital is fleeting. It's probably now or never.

[Enthusiast]

55. And regulating the financial

services industry.

[Chulanowa]

18. Well, I dunno about Izquierdista...

But this particular 10-percenter is pretty satisfied with Obama. I wish he would stop wasting time trying to pull the republicans on board and centrifying everything he says... There are times he still seems to be in candidate mode rather than incumbent mode.

Overall happy, with some room for improvement.

[katkat]

59. tarp, increased military

WaPo leads with TARP money misused by banks and no federal oversight done or planned, the size of the military which is a giant drain on the budget is increasing.

He's done good environmental things, mostly, and maybe health care will get through, but what the heck is happening with TARP and the military? Wasn';t it Obama who said he could deal with more than one thing at a time?

[Phx_Dem]

37. Could have fooled me. I'd hate to see how you treat someone you hate.

[quickesst]

21. "The 10% that's the far left hate him"

Not hate, just great disappointment that the Utopian Destiny Express they boarded turned out for them, to be a train bound for nowhere near the destination they convinced themselves it would be. I reserved my ticket on the Reality Express early because I knew it would be crowded. 60% is a pretty good crowd. Thanks.
quickesst

[dflprincess]

77. Correct the far left doesn't hate him

but not many of us were on the Utopian Express either. Most of voted for him because there was no other viable alternative to McCain. It's a pity that trying to hold his feet to the fire (didn't he tell us to do that?) is construed as hate by some. He is after all, a public servant, and we, as members of the public, have a right to expect more. If we don't, we'll have to settle for less and I'm tired of doing that.

[harmonicon]

61. I'm of "the far left", and I don't hate him

I knew what I was voting for, and I got it.

[jberryhill]

3. He'll probably resign this week

He should do the right thing, like Sarah Palin, and not milk his lame duck status for the next 3.5 years.

[uppityperson]

4. Be inspired by the troops and quit would be a good strategy indeed.

[AllTooEasy]

41. Palin in 2012 for sure now

All is lost. ALL IS LOST!!!

:sarcasm:

Update: Obama Gallup poll number today: %61

[Arugula Latte]

23. He's finished. He doesn't have any time left. Forget it -- 2012 is lost.

:evilgrin:

[Clio the Leo]

24. He should just call it quits and let us install that Palin woman....

..... as President while she's still hot.

What's the point of having a MILF President if the "ILF" doesn't apply anymore? She's got, what, five good years left in her? :)

[DrToast]

29. Haha...good point...

I've always wondered that. What will Sarah Palin's popularity be like when Republicans don't want to f*#k her anymore?

[Bette Noir]

42. Well, if Obama does a halfway decent job, he'll be reelected in '12.

By '16, Palin will be well into her 50s, and no longer hot. I think it's safe to say that she'll never be president.

[rpannier]

66. I think he'll quit in a year and a half

Because the presidency is preventing him from focusing in on becoming Governor of Alaska.

He'll resign, unless the Dept of Law steps in and stops him

[Jennicut]

5. Its kind of a joke really how the MSM tries to take him down.

His approval is way more stable then Clinton's ever was...the only Dem I ever witnessed in the Presidency.

[MadBadger]

6. But Rasmussen says otherwise

And by that I mean Scott Rasmussen has called himself 1,000 times and says otherwise.

[Forkboy]

12. I always wondered how he conducted his polls.

:D

[MadBadger]

13. It is quite amazing that his poll has Obama net approval at +2, and Gallup has it at +27

He's such a fuckup when it comes to his tracking polls and issue polls

[Forkboy]

16. I don't trust any of them, but Rasmussen is especially untrustworthy.

:puke:

[StevieM]

35. I think "f***up" is the wrong word. It implies that he is unskilled at polling and that is why his

numbers are so clearly flawed. It is really much more simple than that--he just lies.

Steve

[FrenchieCat]

7. But, but, but....

What about the Birthers and shit? :scared:

[frogcycle]

17. you mean all fifteen of them?

or twenty maybe

[yowzayowzayowza]

10. UnRecing this for hyperbolic delivery.

Not.

:hi:

[BlooInBloo]

11. We're doomed.

[Nedsdag]

15. This is great news for McCain!

:rofl: :sarcasm:

[Colobo]

20. Yep. He'll win next November for sure!

[Ikonoklast]

22. But it's not 100% positive, so he's a failure.

I should fail as much as this guy has, I'd be ecstatic.

[firedupdem]

28. Rec'd! n/t

[girl gone mad]

30. By these standards..

Bush was at one time the Greatest President in History.

[scheming daemons]

31. BIG difference, though...

Bush's approval rating ranged from 22% to 90% during his Presidency, and fluctuated wildly.


Obama's approval rating has remained static, whether he has a good week, bad week, or average week. No matter how much praise or criticism....it has remained static.


Bush was all over the place... up to 90% in the weeks after 9/11... down to 22% during the economic collapse of Sept 2008.


At the same point in his Presidency, But was already down to the low 50s... and was dropping steadily, until 9/11 occurred.

[phleshdef]

32. Right because Obama had a 9/11 and got an enormous bump from it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

52. Maybe he got a bump from the Tragedy of Unrec?

[No Passaran]

33. Rec #30

[PopSixSquish]

34. Game Over Man!

and I bet they just finished unpacking the last of the boxes. Oh well...

[leftofthedial]

36. he's a likeable guy.

*Everyone* finally figured out that king george was an asshole.

I think President Barack Ogoodcop's approval rating will stay fairly high as long as he keeps smiling and orating and not overtly torturing any of us.

[JDPriestly]

38. People like him and they are not paying attention. Also, he

is speaking out in favor of health insurance reform that will ease the burdens regarding health care -- fear of not being insured, fear of not being able to afford care when it is needed most -- on most people. Bush was just so bad, that Obama seems like a great improvement.

[Bette Noir]

39. I love him. I wish he were more progressive, but I still love him.

[rucky]

43. This is just as much a message to the GOP & Blue Dogs

to STFU

[Grinchie]

44. It doesn't matter, the Fascist takeover continues.

Only one thing matters to me, and that MY approval rating for Obama's administration is 20%.

[Laurab]

62. Ah, the "Facist takeover"....

thanks for bringing it to my attention - it's the first I'd heard of it. You're lucky that only one thing matters to you - I'm almost overwhelmed by the many things that matter to me, and the fact that MY approval rating would be around 70% isn't even near the top of the list.

[Grinchie]

63. The Corporation is inherently Fascist in nature.

They certainly aren't listening to the people.

[Beavker]

45. He could be more ballsy maybe...

but it's the pieces of shit Dem Congress that are pissing me off. The GOP you expect it from. We need our Democratic Congress to get it back together.

Recall Ben Nelson! I emailed the NE Democratic Party, but no reply.

Get them on board, ram this stuff down the GOP's throat and watch Fox News and CNBC all have seizures on their respective sets while they are strangling each other running about the studio on fire. At least that is how my fantasy goes...

[GinaMaria]

46. poll on Obama/healthcare reform

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090720/POLITICS-US-USA-HEALTHCARE-POLL/

This is probably more of indication of the traction that the insurance companies are gaining. This is going to be a bloody fight

[GivePeaceAchance]

47. Yes, 60 percent is awesome my overtime in getting truth out on twitter is working yay!...

Who said Michael Jackson wasn't poltical esepcially when you connect him as a trending topic on twitter.

[Jennicut]

48. Its up to 61 today. So much for his failing.

[scheming daemons]

49. Thanks for the update...

[Apollo11]

50. I am sure President Obama pays no attention to these polls

He has much more important stuff to think about.

At this point I think most people are giving the new President time to deal with the problems facing the country. They will not start to evaluate his performance until the summer of 2010 - at the soonest.

[dflprincess]

78. All politicians pay attention to their approval polls

though they all tell you they don't.

[Peacetrain]

51. scheming daemons...you are a bad bad bad man

:rofl:

[RufusTFirefly]

53. Coincidentally, just 39 percent of Americans believe in evolution

Just 39 percent of Americans believe in evolution

Argumentum ad Populum

[Enthusiast]

56. And that just goes to show

you how woefully uninformed Americans actually are.

[Political Heretic]

57. 56.7 is the average, and as far as I know that's basically what its been all along.

So rumors of some massive slide are false.

However, in particular issues, its a little different. According to a CNN news poll of today 7/20, only 44% of Americans thing Obama is handling health care well, down from 57% in April. That's funny since I think he's handling health care pretty good, and its congressional dems that bear much of the blame.

So "popular opinion" sort of doesn't mean much. We all love it when we agree with it, and blow it off when we don't.

I'm not sure who exactly you're directing your post to. I doubt anyone here courageous enough to use a critical lens when considering Washington politics - including the politics of the executive branch - sees any positive gain from tanking Obama approval numbers. I'd prefer Obama have high poll numbers, because the higher the more hopeful it is that he will be able to do things with less capitulation and compromise. So, I think your notion that people here would somehow root for low poll numbers is silly and ignorant. :shrug:

By the way, see sig.

[progressoid]

58. Lame

Approval ratings are not indicative of anything.

Reagan and GHW Bush had similar ratings during their first six months. Are we to praise them for their wonderful jobs as president based on their numbers too? I think not.

I'm not an Obama "hater". Just pointing out that popularity doesn't equal effectiveness.

[Political Heretic]

60. Popluarity does help you move and agenda, though.

[Jake Stillow]

64. I'd say his approval is relatively steady

[DontTreadOnMe]

68. I voted for Obama

But I can also read a chart.

Six months IS ALOT of time to get things done... so go ahead.
Show me see the list. November is coming fast.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

65. Yeah, but look at the act he's following.

Obama could sleep through his entire term and drool on Jefferson's desk, and he'd still look better than Fuhrer Fratboy.

[Piewhacket]

70. INSURANCE INDUSTRY PROPAGANDA... Health Care Reform. Duh.

Its as plain as the nose on your face,
or in some of your cases, the large pimple on the nose, mebuckos.


The FIRST clue.

First look at a couple of the stories... they are complete bunk,
the text even contradicts the TABLOID STYLE headline. The purpose
is the false headline, not the story. This is famously a Murdoch
tactic, BTW.


The NEXT clue.

Think about who benefits from this spin? What's a major happening
of the moment? Ding ding ding. Health Reform. The Presidents Health
reform agenda. Its the HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

The COFFIN NAIL clue.

Just look at who wrote and carried the stories. Right wingers recruited
by guess who. What? Unhealthy and unholy (and unsavory) alliance? Well $ure.
Far fetched? If you think so you are completely clueless, a freeper, or both.
Check this out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x339898

[scentopine]

71. Wow! Almost as high as Bush I and Bush II...

And look how well that turned out. If its too early for us to express *extreme* disappointment* and/or level criticism towards the president, isn't it too early to make an ass out of yourself rubbing this opinion poll into people's noses? I'll wait for the hard core policy successes that are good for liberals before yielding to the cheerleader bandwagon.

The smugness and arrogance with which the Obamanauts ridicule the completely legitimate disappointment and criticism registered by life long democrats and rank and file workers is _exactly_ the same smug behavior the neo-cons displayed when Bush had his soaring ratings. As we are outraged by the health care policy planning and torture and wall street sociopaths, so were we outraged with the run up to the Iraq war and many other corporate-centered Bush policies. We've been here before - the post election exuberance, the willful neglect of sound warnings and caution, attacking minority views - polarizing the party, and the eventual reconciliation. Its not pretty.

Democrats have completely failed to show liberal principles regarding public policy are better for America than the conservative principals. Obama is no better in this respect. In turn we are riding in a slip stream as extreme right wing goes even harder right and we pick up "moderate republicans" left behind. So we have two parties - neo-con and neo-dem. Both conservative. At the heart of both conservative parties:

the neos (dems and cons) share

1. the unshakable faith that corporations and their "business discipline", authoritarian management, and lack of transparency are uniquely qualified to design and regulate public policy for American citizens.

2. trust that the pure and invisible hand of the free market is self regulating, making sure only the strongest survive (and they're willing to prove it with trillions of your retirement money).

3. the belief that the government is filled with incompetent workers (excluding congress, of course) who, in the absence of huge profit motives and left to apply the skills and disciplines and passions for public service, might actually do a better job than these corporations so this unfair competition must be suppressed.

As a personal observation, it's clear to me from sentiments here, that democrats are much like budding neo-cons in the late 70s and early 80s. Its also clear to me that Obama is a politician first. Obama has not been successful at making people comfortable with liberal policy initiatives. We have the ages old problem of double talking leadership. Remember "kinder, gentler..."? How'd that work out? What ruins democrats is the capitulation and abandonment of core principals in exchange for cash for politicians, cash for corporations. And ruins it is. Stacks of cash for the 1% and stacks of misery and dead bodies here and overseas for everyone else.

Obama is being the best conservative president long time democrats could hope for. He is better than Bush. His body count should be lower. Its not such a lofty or difficult goal to achieve.

[onehandle]

72. Resign!

This foreign guy is done.

Palin 2012! Or a Stump!

What's the difference? Who can tell?

[boppers]

73. Do you have the stump's birth certificate?

In specific, the "long form"?

[onehandle]

80. You got me.

The stump's Canadian.

[boppers]

81. Maybe try Hawaii?

I hear they give space aliens birth certificates, but you might have to "hide" the original.

[MessiahRp]

74. I'm unrecing this because of the crack at us on the left...

It is just immature flamebaiting to attack those who have genuine policy disagreements with Obama. And just as I put in a post a week or so ago there are SERIOUS differences in why we're upset and why the nuts on the right are. To conflate the two as the same is disingenuous, which I have come to expect from your posts.

Rp