Where is the Dem pressure to get our guy in Minnesota seated??!!!!

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

For God's sake! Just imagine this in reverse. Do we not have the energy? Do we not have the will? Where is Tim Kaine on this? Obama? Harry Reid? The Minnesota Dems?

NOW this is a complete embarrassment. We won't make a scene because it is so impolite.

Do you know how many choking deaths a year are attributed to politeness? It always happens because he victim doesn't want to "cause a scene". Cause a F!@#ing scene!!!!

[MarjorieG]

1. For votes on climate, regulation, health care, Al will be there, maybe three weeks since court is

reasonable.

[DrToast]

2. My guess is the pressure starts after the Supreme Court rules

Even though you know Coleman is doing this to stall, he has a right to at least appeal this through the state Supreme Court.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

3. Ridiculous. Many states have seated putative winners

pending higher court decisions. This current travestry gives incentive and precedent for states and parties to fight to the highest levels based on nothing in order to keep people from serving their full term.

[Dragonfli]

15. That is a very good point, n/t

[DrToast]

16. They have, but they don't have to. nt

[Doctor_J]

21. Ridiculuous. This could be next year some time

the people need to do something very, very drastic to get this moving.

[dflprincess]

4. What kind of pressure do you think would be politically wise for

legislators or party officials to put on the state Supreme Court?

[jwirr]

6. Yes, since our SC is most likely left leaning we do not want to push

them around and our governor will do nothing at all unless HE wants to since he is not going to run again. They all know what the MN people want.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

8. I'm not suggesting ANY pressure on ANY court

But Al Franken has apparently prevailed through 2 levels of the Justice system since he is now at State Supreme Court Level.

MOST if not ALL states would have seated him at this point, based on what I have read about previously disputed elections.

YOU are a Minnesotan. YOU are the loser in all this. YOu have had no representation in one of the most important Congressional sessions in history. YOU Minnesotans apparently accept that YOUR representation can be held up by assholes like Coleman and Pawlenty when it suits their purposes and YOU don't care enough to protest YOUR lack of representation.

So fuck it. I can't care more than you do about your own fucking representation.

[dflprincess]

10. State law does not permit a certificate to be issued

while an election is being contested in the state courts. As painful as it is to say, Pawlenty has done nothing (to date) to hold up seating Franken. The legislature did not do anything to change election law in this area during the session and even if they had it probably would not have been retroactive.

Franken did go to the court and ask for a provisional certificate, the court interpreted the law as not allowing that. There is nothing any of us can do but wait for the ruling. The process has been extremely slow, but it has also been open and fair. Doing the recount carefully and by the book is what gave Franken his lead. Most of us agree that even if the count had turned out in Coleman's favor, we would have been content that the process had been legitimate.

We do have Amy Klobuchar in the Senate so, technically, we do have half our representation (though she has been a disappointment). Do we want both seats filled? Yes. But better the court take its time and come back with a solid decision (assuming it goes our way) that leaves no doubt as to Franken's right to be seated so this thing ends here. Besides, we are better off with just one senator than if the decision goes against us and we wound up with Coleman back in the Senate.

[Telly Savalas]

24. I'm not sure I'd call this fair.

I can see it taking some time to get things right in a closely contested election like this, but it stretches the imagine to think we really need over seven and a half months. Whoever truly won the election deserves to be seated in January, perhaps February at the latest if there are extraordinary circumstances, but waiting until at least July is not fair to the winning candidate or the people that voted for him/her.

[polmaven]

25. But the law is the law...

It is (R)s who favor usurping the law....not (D)s.

[Telly Savalas]

26. Oh, I agree.

I just think the law needs to be improved to prevent such absurdly long delays from happening in the future.

[billyoc]

5. No, how many?

[ThirdWorldJohn]

7. Well there seems to be a Bar-B-Que tomorrow and franken is slated to be there. Maybe they will send

out a release or something.

http://www.dfl.org/

[lindisfarne]

9. Discussion on this earlier today. It will take as long as the justices need to thoroughly

review what needs to be read. It will take even longer if it's not thorough & they give the US SC a reason to take the case.
A succinct answer way at bottom from former clerk in MN SC of this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5933801

[MadMaddie]

11. I am wondering if they really want to seat him

He brings the count to a possible 60 seat majority....I believe they could push and raise hell about it but I find it curious that they haven't!! Just sayin.... :shrug:

[Doctor_J]

22. No, they're just typical disengaged Americans. Probably don't know

how many Senators they're supposed to have anyway.

[salguine]

12. Why don't the people of Minnesota file a class action suit against Coleman to make

him stop this horseshit?

[PBS Poll-435]

13. I appreciate the process in Minnesota especially after Gore v. Harris, Bush v. Gore

I know it is taking time, but the process is as close to flawless as I have seen in recount litigation.


Al will be the next Senator seated and it will be soon.

[PBS Poll-435]

14. And I must admit, around here, many thought that Al Franken was not our guy

Especially the Randi Rhodents.

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[Orsino]

18. Where the hell is Minnesota's pressure to get half of their Senate representation seated?

I don't really mean to minimize Minnesotan activism--I just wonder why there aren't crowds in the streets.

[Doctor_J]

20. Yes, the Minnesotans should have commandeered Pawlenty's office

and not left until something was done about this. It's too late now

[Hansel]

27. There are not crowds in the street because of our culture.

Disclaimer: I don't speak for all Minnesotans so I speak in generalities.

As a rule, Minnesotans believe in fairness and an orderly process, and we tend to have faith in our court system. We tend not to believe in putting the cart before the horse. If you saw the process by which the panel counted the votes that were in question, you will understand why we are not that concerned. The entire panel from left to right was very judicial and fair.

Many Minnesotans (left and right) are disgusted with Norm's behavior because it is outside of the social norm here for public figures. We are not a Karl Rove state, but he is a Karl Rove politician and his political career is over here. He is an outsider that does not get that. Franken is an insider and does. The only reason Republicans win here is because we have a strong Independent party. The state is still a liberal state.

The Minnesota Supreme Court has not ruled yet. It would be counter productive and inappropriate for us to go out there and start pitching a fit before a final decision has been made. For the most part our court system is fair and comes to the right conclusions. We don't have a history of corrupt justices. Yet.

You also might be forewarned that if they decide that Norm won, the vast majority of Minnesotans (me not included) will take their word for it. Not because we are naive, but because we have no reason to believe our court system is corrupt. Yet.

In other words, Franken will be seated.

[Doctor_J]

19. Harry's keeping his powder dry

seriesly, after 7 months you think anyone's going to suddenly do something now?

Franken will never be seated. The Senate will have 99 members until 2015 or until MN has a special election that the Repukes win.

[GivePeaceAchance]

29. One radio caller said he's kept his powder so dry it's turned to talcum powder. lol

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

23. No shit. Do we have to wait 5 1/2 more years for the next election? This is BS.

[GivePeaceAchance]

28. Doubt it's gonna come from them he's an outsider he's a lone ranger on this one.