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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:16 PM
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I just watched my TIVO'd Colbert from last night--he hinted Obama could annul DOMA with executive..
order.

Is this true (sorry if it has been discussed here before).
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:19 PM
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1. Can Presidents annul legislation and if they can, what does that say about our political system?
No. It isn't true.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:23 PM
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2. Good, I would have been very hurt that he had not done it.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:57 PM
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7. Would you be hurt to know he can at least stop it while it is debated.
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 09:09 PM by Dragonfli
If he felt like raising his pen for 30 seconds?

http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt/releases/New+Study...
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:56 PM
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6. they get one chance - the veto - and that can be overridden
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:38 PM
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3. I think they were talking about DADT, not DOMA. And although he can't take DADT out with
an executive order, I think he COULD halt the persecution of officers with it by executive order. Maybe this is what it was referring to? :shrug:
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:51 PM
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5. Yes they were talking about DADT - I didn't even notice
the flaw in the OP (I was focused too much on the Colbert piece to read apparently :blush: )

Thanks for correcting the error, my post makes no sense without the correction)

:hi:
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:45 PM
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4. Depends on who you ask (many lawyers say yes, many say no)
He can without question suspend the implementation of it while a law is debated.
That is pretty well known to be a definite.

I personally believe that the apologist lawyers that claim he can not end discrimination in the Military completely via Executive Order either do not know their history or are hoping we forget the past.

Check this out if you want to see the difference a President can make if he actually wishes to oppose bigoted policy in the armed forces (we have been here before)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9981



In other words I believe the answer to your query is YES HE CAN if he wanted to.
Don't believe everything you hear from people that worship other people.
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