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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:44 AM
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The only reason to be "bi-partisan" with a party that is a walking corpse is:
Fill in any logical reason you can think of - I can't think of any.

Most have come to the conclusion that the Republicans have shrunk themselves down to a regional party of hard-core social conservatives and have scared everyone else off.

Seeking to be bi-partisan with them is like Microsoft consulting with RCA Victor before launching a new OS. They are just past their time and haven't kept up.



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:46 AM
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1. Because too many corpoDems AGREE with the Republicans and use 'bi-partisanship' to cover their
own fascist intentions.


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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:47 AM
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2. Yes, I think you are EXACTLY RIGHT. Republican goals have become Democratic goals
We don't even need Republicans anymore to advance the corporatist agenda over the needs of the people.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:50 PM
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18. Yup..and if you don't claim Bi-par, every agenda you push will be destroyed.
and corporate media will be at the head of the pack.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:48 AM
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3. because you agree with their policies nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:48 AM
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4. The fucked up media that acts like the GOP is not a party of Corpes?
You know....that "Liberal" media that spews GOP talking points each and every day?

:shrug:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:04 AM
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14. The media would speak for the last remaining republican
in fact they would speak for them even if they didn't have any representatives in congress!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:56 AM
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5. it continues to frame the Republicans as intransigent for the 1/3 of the
country that is in the middle and has no affection for either party.


It costs nothing but keeps the Republicans on the defensive and takes away campaign talking points in the next election.



It continues to park the Republican Party into the 'recalcitrant child corner'.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:07 AM
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15. It's my understanding that you know LOTS about that corner.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:43 PM
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17. I set all records for having to stand outside the classroom at Hamblen Elementary School

It actually resulted in a new policy, the 'two desk policy'.


Children that were so disruptive to the classroom and were sent to stand in the hall so frequently were given a second permanent desk outside in the hall.


Hamblen used the policy once.


I even had to stand in the hall for the 1 hour 56 minutes of the last day of school having said something outrageously snarky 4 minutes in on the day that 'anything goes'.



Had they had Ritlin when I was a kid I could have been a poster child.


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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 07:39 PM
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23. I would have been madly disappointed if that weren't the case.....
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 07:40 PM by cliffordu
:rofl:

I knew there was a reason I heart you.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:58 PM
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6. It's not that the moderates like the GOP.....
.... they simply hate partisaned bickering. That's all these promises of bipartisanship are, an effort to show moderates that Obama is NOT getting involved in bipartisaned bickering.

Perhaps "a-partisan" would be a better world.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:12 AM
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7. Stupidity? Naivete?
That's all I can think of.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:35 AM
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8. my idea of why sometimes i feel the dems help the reps is
simple stuff really
the fear of what will fill the void

something must and the odds are it will be a yet uglier but more defined version of its forebear
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 06:52 AM
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9. . . . is: to embrace reality!
What more is there to say?

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If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst.
--Thomas Hardy
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:21 AM
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10. Its not the Republicans they are trying to work with. Its the Conservative Democrats
they are having the problems with.

When you hear bipartisan. Its about those 12 jerks
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:59 AM
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13. Good point
Lately, I've tended to dismiss the GOP as being "irrelevant" and thought more about how President Obama and the more moderate/progressive elements in the Senate are going to deal with the "Blue Dogs" and DINOS and not so much the "party of no ideas, plans......"
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:45 AM
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11. Because you mostly agree with the walking corpses.
That's the only explanation that comes to mind, and it would certainly explain a lot.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:07 AM
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12. Because on many issues you're Republican lite
But you want the GOP to resist mightily so you look like you're progressive. Perception is a political tool to be used as much as any other for politicians. Like Molly Ivins said many times, watch what they do, not what they say.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:22 PM
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16. The powder needs to be kept dry? {nt}
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:55 PM
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19. There was only one presidential election between Nixon and Reagan.
That's not a reason to seek bipartisan compromise, indeed, it's the opposite. They should be cramming the liberal agenda through congress as fast as they can. Oh, wait, they aren't liberals. Apparently, the bipartisanship is to appease the Republican infiltrators present in the Democratic Party.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:12 PM
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Its absurd.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:12 PM
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20. Its truly absurd.
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 02:26 PM by undeterred
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:12 PM
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21. Its completely absurd, I tell you.
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 02:27 PM by undeterred
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 05:19 PM
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22. because you are the siamese twin of the walking corpse and if they die, you die

Bipartisanship is a game of good cop/bad cop.

We have a one party system.

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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:03 PM
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24. thus the old 'knife in the back' trick, with all it's appeal, is never going to happen. n/t
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:35 AM
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25. Not all Republicans are in Congress/government
Not all Republicans naturally agree with what their representatives and leaders in Congress are doing either and appreciate President Obama's effort to attempt to be President of all Americans and not just Democrats. Plus, when President Obama attempts to be bipartisan the Repukes can't help but bite his hand in return- which makes them look even worse to everybody, including some of their own membership IMHO who might decide to vote for the Democrats next time or to simply stay home instead of voting for the Repukes. :shrug: Oh, and it makes it easier for the Democrats to simply throw up their hands and move on without worrying about the Repukes if they don't want to work with him. Plus, even though WE know that the Repukes are pretty much *corpses* right now, the corporate mediawhores still haven't figured it out so as long as the Repukes are STILL presented as being a *credible* party, they may have to be treated as such (unfortunately).

It may seem stupid and a waste of time to try to deal in good faith with a party whose membership (largely) doesn't reciprocate in kind but I think that it's helping President Obama and the Democrats in Congress strengthen their hand against the Repukes. Personally, so far, I think it's helped more than hurt us so far.
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