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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:32 AM
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The House just passed a resolution to condemn "ongoing violence" by Iranian govt. The 1 "no" vote was Ron Paul. Way to go, Dems.! :eyes:
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:35 AM
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1. Why? For what purpose?
It's none of our freakin' business!!! :grr:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:39 AM
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3. To go against Obama...
and not look like we're "against democracy," I guess. We can't have the Repubs. looking more "patriotic" than us. :eyes:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:36 AM
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2. They should take legislators who propose legislation like this out back and shoot them.
They're obviously of no use to anybody.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:39 AM
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4. Dumb move. This rhetoric just escalates.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:40 AM
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5. I know. What a shame the Dems. in the house side with the Repubs. instead
of the President.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:41 AM
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6. Everyday i wonder if it's more of an embarassment to be called a Democrat.
:crazy:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:41 AM
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7. And this is what our tax dollars pay for?
They all suck in one form or another.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:05 PM
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14. Well, it's what lobbying buys.
I'm afraid we'll be paying for this in more than dollars.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:42 AM
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8. Totally stupid and childish. House Democrats have no discipline whatsoever.
Neither discipline with respect to foreign policy nor party discipline.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:46 AM
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9. Exactly. It doesn't even MATTER that we have a majority.
They may as well all be Repubs.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:47 AM
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10. Dumbass Democrats go along with a Republican Ploy to attack Obama
Edited on Fri Jun-19-09 11:47 AM by Thrill
A bunch of damn fools

They can find the time to vote on this nonsense. But not the time to vote on Repealing DADT or EFCA??
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:48 AM
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11. It's sickening. n/t
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grillo7 Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 06:35 AM
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40. You're completely right...
Watch CSPAN sometime if you don't already...it's sickening the amount of time taken up by congratulating sports teams, or passing resolutions like "Measure to Rename the 'Podunktown Post Office' to 'Wilbur J. Jones Post Office'". This is just another, pointless variation of that.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:56 AM
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12. pretty bold statement..
next on the agenda, a resolution to declare that kittens are cute.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:59 AM
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13. Well, it kind of defies Obama by meddling...
Edited on Fri Jun-19-09 12:00 PM by jenmito
which seems to be the norm-even for Dems. Their next resolution will probably be to declare Portugese Water Dogs the ugliest of dogs.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:06 PM
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15. And the other 29 didn't have the guts to vote?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:16 PM
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16. Maybe they weren't there.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:19 PM
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17. Two members took the coward's way out and voted 'Present':
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:27 PM
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18. All of the dems should have voted present.
We shouldnt be meddling just yet.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:32 PM
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20. I disagree, voting present or not voting I think were acceptable ways of opposing it.
The language is fucking ridiculous

That the House of Representatives--
(1) expresses its support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law;
(2) condemns the ongoing violence against demonstrators by the Government of Iran and pro-government militias, as well as the ongoing government suppression of independent electronic communication through interference with the Internet and cellphones; and
(3) affirms the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections.


Voting no, you don't support those things would have been more brave, but I still thanked my representative for not voting.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:29 PM
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19. ron paul likes the violence?
or is he so used to going against the grain he automatically votes no for anything the house is mostly in favor of?
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:33 PM
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21. He's against the US meddling in other countries' affairs
which was the purpose of this resolution.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 02:41 PM
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27. He's an equal-opportunity douchebag
If people like Ronzo had their way, Hitler and Stalin would have carved up the planet between them.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:36 PM
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23. No. He's against interference of this election-just like Obama.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 07:29 PM
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34. Ron Paul and Hugo Chavez, apparently
At least the Rondroids won't blame translation errors by the imperialist media.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:34 PM
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22. The envy of Obama runs deep - even in our own party. nm
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:37 PM
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24. It sure looks that way!
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:28 PM
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25. According to Gibbs on hr560: We welcome it, it echoes Obama.
Lol.
I guess that's one way of dealing with it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 05:26 PM
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28. Yeah...
I heard him say that. Obama DID speak out against the violence and in favor of having the will of the people heard, but he didn't go farther than that. And the House didn't say what McCain was saying-that the people should not have to live with 4 more years of Ahmadinejad. So I guess the RWers lost a talking point today with Gibbs' answer.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:40 PM
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26. Well at least we have one smart person in the House, and 405 butinskis.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 05:33 PM
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29. And the Broken Clock of Texas is right once again.
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 05:34 PM
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30. How is this "meddling?"
All kinds of people are opining about the situation in Iran. This measure doesn't do anything but express the Congress's viewpoint.

So how is this meddling?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 06:19 PM
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31. It's just that the Repubs.' floor speeches and what they said at their presser
were claiming Obama's "confused" and "unwilling to speak up for the protestors" and making trouble, talking as if it's their right to force "liberty" on Iran.
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:39 PM
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36. But no one I'm aware of is talking about forcing anything
Just expressing support for the Iranian people's desire to have their wishes and desires accepted by their country's leaders, and against any violence against the people by the ruling oligarchy.

Who said anything about us using force?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 06:22 PM
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32. We just can't keep our fucking mouths shut can we?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 06:38 PM
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33. They just managed to make Obama look really good for refusing to meddle!
If they think this will hurt Obama they're sadly delusional. Arabs and Persians along with every other country will respect him more for refusing to ratchet up the incessantly bellicose rhetoric that Americans seem to love so much.

But I suspect they know this and are voting because they can't really condone violence in other countries. It's a 'safe' vote which is just symolic.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 07:33 PM
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35. Yup. Congress walked right into the Repubs
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:06 PM
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37. LMAO! That's my rep! At least he's consistent! nt
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:15 PM
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38. Way to empower the mullah whackjobs, Congress! n/t
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 01:16 AM
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39. More empty posturing. Yay!
Was this before or after they passed their $106 billion imperial war funding bill?

Wow, kinda hard to be against "ongoing violence" in Iran while perpetrating on-going mega-violence on either side of it.
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Optical.Catalyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:00 AM
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41. .
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