Birther Wingers on the verge of Victory - they say - an "event" coming

[Adelante]

Take a look at the part I've put in bold. Is there anything that makes you uncomfortable there? Or am I being silly?

On the verge of Victory!

Good news! I just spoke with Carl and he said it's going to be over by July 4. We will have real celebrations going on! I have no reason to doubt him; he has been very public about getting this usurper out of office. Here are his comments at the forums and his website:

We've had enough! I Carl Swensson and Mack Ellis will be in Washington, D.C., June 29th, in the year of our Lord 2009.

We're going to hand deliver ALL of OUR Grand Jury Presentments to the usurper Barry Soetoro, Eric Holder, SCOTUS and whomever else we can find. You guys can talk and blog all you want, the time for ACTION is NOW. You can stay home and watch or YOU CAN join us, it doesn't MATTER. This is now 6 months into a Constitutional Crisis of Biblical proportions and only a select few seem to have any courage at all. So be it. Don't whine and cry when you realize the Elite have destroyed all that's near and dear to your hearts, especially not to us or Commander Walter Fitzpatrick. Come hell or high water we will be heard.

Contact me at [e-mail] if you want to be a part of making history.

This is REALLY it. After posting that on my web site last night I woke this morning to the news that we are on the verge of VICTORY! July 4th will indeed be a day of celebration for us all.

We ask everyone who can to join us. Action time has arrived so what say ye America?

The choice is yours to make.., I've made mine.

If you know of a film crew, he would like to have them there. He is sworn to secrecy, but the truth will come out soon! He also said it isn't going to be pretty; there will be rioting everywhere. I am shaking as I type this. I pray for his and Mack Ellis' safety. He said when they go to do the presentments, this "event" should coincide at about that time. OMG!!!! I pray this can be put behind us....once and for all!

Steph
State: Illinois

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum...



Yeah, yeah, I know they're nuts and they always think they're on the verge of victory, while they're getting nowhere fast, but should Agent Mike be told about this?

[JuniperLea]

1. Agent Mike... and the FBI...

These delusional idiots are going to hurt somebody!

[OmahaBlueDog]

16. I concur -- send it to the FBI

Don't assume they've seen it. It's probably sound and fury signifying nothing, but I'd hate for the "secret" to be the next OKC bombing. Remember that the wingnuts have a track record.

[wordpix]

115. July 4th victory? FBI, beware these nutjobs are planning an Indie Day surprise

I do not trust these nutcases. They are dangerous morons, just like BushCo.

[Howardx]

2. the truth will come out soon!

the whitey tape will destroy his campaign....meanwhile send funds.

[JuniperLea]

7. LOL! You'd think that was too funny to be true...

But that about sums it up!

[monmouth]

3. Definitely. An unspecified "event" in the present environment has

all the earmarks of danger..

[FrenchieCat]

4. It feels like waiting for the Whitey tapes all over again!

and yes, Agent Mike should know.

Especially after the Holocaust Shooting,
sounds like a good idea.

[Adelante]

10. Okay, I'm going to do it

SS and FBI. This is supposed to happen in DC, so I'll write the FBI there.

[Howardx]

15. good for you

cant hurt to be vigilant.

[Renew Deal]

33. 7 Business Days!

[madaboutharry]

5. Sounds like a screed from crackpots.

These guys must be related to the unibomber.

[Howardx]

23. screed? unibomber? check this out

from the related comment thread

"We remain All citizens of a great Nation respecting our differences and celebrating our common bonds a country of We The People. We are Constitutional Moderates subscribing to the US Constitution and The Rule of Law. We understand and subscribe to a fundamental truth that the American Revolution is an ongoing and continuous great experiment. Moreover we reject those of evil agendas including attempts to distract and divide us by sparking yet another civil war among, us once again. I pray that we continue to all stand united. Finally we challenge those now loudly bearing false witness against us and their counterfeit characterization and or false identification of Loyal Americans. We continue to hold closely those fundamental truths and motives that our nation is based on. Today we note with increasing alarm the interference with ,by both domestic and foreign evil influences, our fundamental rights to assemble and if necessary even openly discuss, examine, question or challenge today's very alarming behavior of We The Peoples Government. Moreover a companion Evil forces interference challenging the peoples fundamental right and obligation to collectively recall and or by other legal means, consistent with their constitution, change out those that were previously temporary chosen to serve as members of We The Peoples Federal Government. Again We The People understand that this is a grand experiment and our constitution was designed such that the struggle can and will continue by ALL well intended citizens subscribing to a common bond under the Constitution and the rule of law. At the onset - George Washington and others have cautioned us to be where of foreign entanglements and companion evil influences."

[Catshrink]

28. What the hell does that mean?

"be where of foreign entanglements and companion evil influences."

[Howardx]

36. i guess if you wrap your crazy...

in vaguely constitutional sounding language it goes over better.

[Catshrink]

37. Only if the followers are more ignorant than the writer

and apparently they are.

[Pool Hall Ace]

97. be where? It's time to update the freeper dickshunary.

[eridani]

140. Be Here Now! n/t

[drm604]

35. "sparking yet another civil war"

They're accusing others of attempting to start a civil war?

They're the ones challenging the current government. Most of us seem to be at least accepting of the current office holders. So it would seem that they are the ones interested in civil war.

Hypothetically speaking, if they did somehow manage to get the President out of office, we would then have President Biden. I doubt they'd be happy with that.

[Solomon]

85. Biden is white so he will do.

Acceptable.

[drm604]

88. True.

I wonder if they'd demand to see Biden's "Certificate of Live Birth" or whatever the hell it is they're looking for. No doubt his white skin and Christian parents are enough proof of citizenship for these people.

[Sebastian Doyle]

122. You have to remember how these fucking morons think

They are probably operating on the theory that, once "Barry Hussein Soetoro" is "proven" to be a KENYA BORN ISLAMOFASCIST FRAUD !!!!1111! therefore he AND his running mate were ineligible to be elected, and McCain wins by default.

Sure that has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, but the only part of that document any of them ever gave a shit about was the 2nd Amendment anyway.

And in this scenario, the next step probably involves staging a McCain heart attack, so they can have their REAL candidate, Moosealini, take over.

Thank God none of this is actually going to happen, because even the speculation scares the Hell out of me.

[OhioBlue]

110. They would be much happier with Biden

IMO - these aren't your typical repukes. These are crazy ass militia or KKK or some other type of extremists.

They're racists that probably really believe Obama is a secret Muslim sent by Osama Bin Laden himself to take over the world. they're f'n crazy. They've fanned their own flames of hate so much that they see Barack Obama as a threat regardless of party.

[atreides1]

6. Hopefully Agent Mike is Watching

[vaberella]

Can we report these people? n/t

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. I would certainly contact the FBI and the Secret Service too...

This is a bold threat and not to be taken lightly.

Good grief. Will they never stop?

[Deja Q]

9. No doubt the FBI has picked up on it before DU did.

They will be apprehended. It's only about national security and all...

[wordpix]

114. don't count on it. Always send the info when it presents itself

[lamp_shade]

11. Well.... one way to get people to show up for the teabaggers ball.

[wtbymark]

12. Hi agent Mike!

[liberalmuse]

13. This reminds me of something...

Oh yeah, Linus and The Great Pumpkin!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. YEEESSSS!!!! IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME.

Now if only the intergalactic confederacy would show up so that we can put Plan ZZZBRRGTHJ7kpssst@#$! into action......

[JuniperLea]

18. LOL!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

22. You've revealed too much.

[JuniperLea]

56. I'm a little surprised I'm still allowed to post!

[Ikonoklast]

87. Zoltan!!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

89. .

[Birthmark]

17. Honestly, what's with these whackjobs?

I mean, it's one thing to make up stupid stories to tell oneself, but it's just bad form to actually *believe* such fairy tales. And it's blatantly stupid to repeat them in public as if they are true.

They have no self-respect at all.

[Catshrink]

25. They're repeating them in public to instigate their own "victimization"

by the evil Barry Soetoro and his minions. That's how they think. They will claim that they were silenced and are being persecuted, that their 1st Amendment rights are being violated. In their eyes, this will cause the true believers to rise up and march in the streets. Yeah right. They're watching the video from Tehran and dreaming of their own glory leading such a march in DC. I bet fewer people show up for this than for the Fire Letterman rally in NYC.

[Birthmark]

29. Well, of *course* they're victims.

That goes without saying. I've worked hard to make it so. I spend 19 hours a day in secret meetings with other liberals, communists, socialists, conspiratorial scientists, George Soros, the media, the unions, school teachers and the Grays specifically for the purpose of making the fright-wing Rushpublicans victims.

Or so I hear.

[hileeopnyn8d]

71. You forgot ACORN! nt

[Birthmark]

81. Sorry, but I was in a hurry.

Those fetuses aren't going to abort themselves, you know.

[Political Tiger]

19. I think their next mission should be finding the Michelle "whitey" tape! n/t

[CreekDog]

20. The Rapture

Then we will be done with them.

[Birthmark]

38. The Rupture

Then we can laugh at them.

[DeschutesRiver]

120. good one:) I have a neighbor who is totally into her Rapture moment

I thought she joking, then I thought she had made it all up on her own, then I just thought she was being unstable. When she learned I was a bookaholic, she told me to buy some series of books, believe it was called Left Behind (?).

Next day I went online to see what was behind all this crazy talk, and learned more than I'd wanted to know about people who wait for this Rapture thing. It is a total obsession that fills their every waking thought and moment, and that isn't based in reality.

Same as the birther's "cause." I wonder how many are also Rapture adherents?

[Milspec]

127. Left Behind books

From Weki

'Left Behind' is a series of 16 best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, dealing with Christian dispensationalist End Times: pretribulation, premillennial, Christian eschatological viewpoint of the end of the world. The primary conflict of the series is the members of the Tribulation Force against the Global Community and its leader Nicolae Carpathia—the Antichrist. Left Behind is also the title of the first book in the series. It is published by Tyndale House, a firm with a history of interest in dispensationalism.

What ever the fuck that means, but more...........

Response

In 1998, the first four books of the series held the top four slots simultaneously,<1> despite the fact that the New York Times' Bestseller's list does not take Christian bookstore sales into account. Book 10 debuted at number one on this list.<1> Total sales for the series have surpassed 65 million copies. Seven titles in the adult series have reached #1 on the bestseller lists for The New York Times, USA Today, and Publishers Weekly.<2>

[DeschutesRiver]

128. Well, I can guarantee that if neither your nor I know what that gibberish means

that my rapture neighbor doesn't get it either, even though she was speaking about this series like it was second only to the Bible, and she mentioned she has read it a number of times. DH and I wanted to move on out of there after the conversation turned decidedly religious. They know we do not do religion, and while there is always room for their religious views, there is not a similar amount of space given for our non-religious perspective. So dh said "well, we'd better go home and feed the equines", just "horsing" around with words.

Her response was "I've never heard of those - what kind of animal is an equine?" After a moment, he replied "same as the three you have pastured out behind your house." So I'd bet I couldn't get a straight answer from her regarding the definiton of "dispensationalism" either.

65 million copies sold - probably many bought right here in my local ranching community. While I grew up rural, my parents were not into religion, and then I largely avoided such things until I moved here, and found myself surrounded by religions I'd only heard about on tv.

[Arkana]

21. Ooooo...all of their "Grand Jury Presentments?"

I'm sure Obama and Holder will wipe their asses with these, since that's all they're worth.

[wordpix]

116. bwahahahah

[Mz Pip]

125. They don't seem to get the process

A Grand Jury has to be convened at the request of the court. Then evidence has to be presented for the Grand Jury to determine if and indictment is warranted.

They make up shit.

[create.peace]

133. more from dale dribble:

"NO one will be allow to post anything about the Law Suit

No one will be allowed to post anything about the law suit in this forum. Silence is now in effect for all involued. I will not go back on the air till this is over. Ralph Evans is the offical spokeman for us."

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum...

[Clio the Leo]

24. The fly was a sign.....

.... I'm sure if I looked I could find a verse in Revelations that talked about plauges involving critters.

Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth; they were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those of mankind who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads; they were allowed to torture them for five months, but not to kill them, and their torture was like the torture of a scorpion, when it stings a man. And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, and death will fly from them."

Well, that's the wrong bug, but details dont matter to birthers.

And on a side note....
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2164/scientists-find...

[Kalyke]

98. There's a verse in Exodus

For if you do not let My people go, behold, I will send swarms of flies on you and on your servants and on your people and into your houses; and the houses of the Egyptians will be full of swarms of flies, and also the ground on which they dwell.

[NYC_SKP]

26. ATTENTION MODERATER OF THIS FORUM!!!!

These guy are funny, I mean ha ha funny and the other kind.

Ed Hale May 15, 2009 - 6:26PM

ATTENTION MODERATER OF THIS FORUM!!!!

DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO POST HERE ANYTHING THAT IS SLANDER TOWARD ANYONE INVOLUED IN THIS LAWSUIT. THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE PLANIFFS AND THE DEFENDANTS. ALSO IF THEY DO, REMOVE IT, COPY THEIR IP AND THEN CLICKON THE UTILITIES BUTTONON THE LEFT AND BAN THEIR IP. NO ONE IS TO TALK ABOUT THIS LAW SUIT. REMOVE AND BAN ANYONE WHO DOES.

May 8, 2009 - 1:44AM
NO one will be allow to post anything about the Law Suit

No one will be allowed to post anything about the law suit in this forum. Silence is now in effect for all involued. I will not go back on the air till this is over. Ralph Evans is the offical spokeman for us.

State: Texas
Ed Hale

May 10, 2009 - 5:23PM
Re: NO one will be allow to post anything about the Law Suit

As I have said - nothing is to be said about the law suit. Dr Orly is a defendant, so it is best nothing that she say is poseted here. I am sorry but that is the way it has to be.

State: Texas

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum...

[Howardx]

34. i believe that refers to a lawsuit amongst the birthers

some kind of east coast west coast birther war.

[unpossibles]

41. Dr. ORLY?

[Adelante]

70. Did you read the OC Weekly article about Orly yesterday? Pretty amusing

MEET ORLY TAITZ, QUEEN BEE OF PEOPLE OBSESSED WITH BARACK OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

BY SPENCER KORNHABER
Published on June 17, 2009


Birth of an Obsession

With her strong will, busy travel schedule and breathless blogging, Laguna Niguel dentist Orly Taitz has become the most controversial figure in the effort to prove that President Barack Obama is foreign-born

It quotes DUer PatGund, too:

Patrick McKinnion of Yes to Democracy puts it a different way: “There’s a certain amount of fascination with unbridled insanity, and that’s what you’re seeing with the birthers: a level of hatred that borders, if not absolutely pole-vaults, into insanity.”

http://www.ocweekly.com/2009-06-18/news/orly-taitz

[Sheltiemama]

74. "A level of hatred that ... pole-vaults into insanity."

Perfection!

[Milspec]

94. Great article

thank for the link. This woman is unhinged.

[drm604]

100. She's a dentist?

She'd better whip out that dental license and prove it, as well as all the necessary degrees and certifications. And we don't want no stinkin' copies. We want the originals! Nothing else will do. We need a Certificate of Live... Dentist... or... something.

[PatGund]

101. Thanks!

40 minute interview broken down to a short quote. *laugh!*

[Wickerman]

53. Ed Hale ran fake Hillary for President sites and paypal scams

in 2008.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls...


Con artist of the Republican stripe, which makes him pretty much evil goat piss.

[PatGund]

102. You forgot Bigfoot killer!!

Ed Hale called into the Art Bell show claiming that in 1976 he shot and killed two bigfoots on his ranch and buried the bodies. Later on the government came and dug up the bodies and took them away.

http://theregulator.net/?p=1503
http://theregulator.net/?p=1580
http://theregulator.net/?p=2519

Another birther, "Citizen" Larry Wells, is also a known bigfoot "expert"

There's quite a cast of characters in birtherland.

[yellowcanine]

126. Bigfoot is not a citizen. He has no birth certificate!

No photocopies either. I want to see the original LONG FORM VAULT COPY!

[PA Democrat]

103. "Planiffs" !!!

Be where, planiffs, there are people out there who are casting asparagus that you are a bunch of wackos!

[Catshrink]

106. Seriesly.

[drm604]

27. Crazy.

I wonder what these "presentments" are, and what happens when they get all of these people stirred up, attempt to deliver their presentments, and then nothing comes of it?

[Beartracks]

43. They will blame the "liberal media." n/t

[Hamlette]

30. I did a track back: They believe they have the right to convene a grand jury

choosing members of their liking, present "indictments" to that grand jury (ie their friends) and then issue indictments.

So, this Carl guy http://www.resistnet.com/profile/CarlSwensson intends to present all of the indictments finding Obama is not a US citizen to the government on July 4 (hey losers, it will be closed for the freaking holiday) and that will end the discussion.

http://americangrandjury.org/grand-jury-evidence-rules-...

The web site above is a "movement" to take back the fourth branch of government by convening YOUR VERY OWN GRAND JURY! Think about it, YOU TOO CAN IMPEACH BUSH!

These people are seriously sick.

[Catshrink]

32. How can they do that?

What gives them the authority to convene their own Grand Jury? Is it constitutional or some obscure law? I've never heard of that.

[grantcart]

42. see post 39

[Beartracks]

44. Delusions of grandjur! - n/t

[hvn_nbr_2]

61. Good one! nt

[Hamlette]

48. I admit that I just skimmed the web site but apparently they believe the SCOUS is wrong

in its interpretation of how grand juries should work and that anyone can "start, organize and manage a citizen's grand jury." On the Carl guy's web site there is some big announcement about how a "grand jury" in Illinois consisting of 17 citizens found Obama is not a citizen. They also link to some youtube video which they say is Muslim kids singing about how they will kill all the Americans because they will get one of their own from Kenya to take over the country and let them in to bomb us all.

Crazy as loons.

(oh, and in answer to your question, hell no it's not legal. Can you imagine having your friends over for a few drinks and indicting your enemies and having it be legal? I'm a lawyer, trust me on this. It is not legal. It is a crazy as them saying it is not a valid birth certificate based on a poorly translated interview with a distant Obama relative. They are foaming at the mouth.)

[jberryhill]

137. You want to have some real fun....

Google "simulating legal process" and see how many state code provisions you come up with.

[nxylas]

93. No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Biggles...the egg whisk!

[havocmom]

136. Sounds like the Freemen crap. Print your own money, have your own courts

Pretend your checks are actually covered with real assets.... Looks the same. They don't like reality to they take newt-isms to the extreme and pretend reality is delusion and then they fill the vacuum with the delusion that they are running things.

The Freemen did the court thing. Real courts were not amused. The mindset still hangs on.

[grantcart]

40. Of course they do -- see post 39

[drm604]

46. If they can do that

then I suppose that we can convey our own grand jury and charge them all with sedition and threats to the public order or somesuch.

Obviously, I'm not suggesting that we actually do that. I'm just pointing out the logical conclusion of their thinking.

By their thinking, anybody can convene a grand jury and then attempt to indict anyone for anything. Of course, this would lead to chaos.

[Hamlette]

51. I think we just did! Who said we had to "convene" in person. Can't we convene online?

I mean really, where does it say in the Constitution that I can't convene a grand jury online and indict anyone I want? Huh?

Let's vote, are they treasonous crazy loons or not?

While we're at it, can we indict Bush for war crimes? Make him stand trial?

[jberryhill]

138. Yes, they've done that too

I won't give the site URL, but they have an American Grand Jury site where, yes, they are convening as many fair minded citizens as they can to indict the president.

[quakerboy]

131. Why now

I wonder what the hell they would do with those indictments. Perhaps we could get them to submit themselves to the proper authorities for their prison sentences. But we may have to remind them that now they are felons, they don't get to vote anymore.

[Adelante]

55. Look at this - from your first link

Comment by Carl Swensson 3 hours ago

Let's put it this way. If the news breaks before the 29th, none of us will want to be there. I just don't see that happening. I'll have support coming from all corners so I'm not concerned about safety, besides, what does that really matter when you have the Country's interest at heart.

Comment by Carl Swensson 4 hours ago

Stephanie,

To my knowledge, it has nothing to do with any law suits and I am not at liberty to say other than the Grand Juries have played an integral part. I will keep you all updated and as we approach the release date I'm going to give all of you a heads up. If you live in a densely populated area, you probably will want to take a vacation to a less populated place. Just until the dust settles(figuratively speaking).

[Catshrink]

65. Oh, it's a coup!

They're going to seize power across the country. Wonder if they'll be wearing three corner hats and carrying muskets?

[Arugula Latte]

66. Teabagapalooza!

They're busy and they've got a lot of balls in the air.

[Sheltiemama]

73. LOL!

[MUAD_DIB]

134. If they try and seize power in my neck of the woods then it will be war.

I'll spank em guud.

[wordpix]

117. now THIS should definitely go to FBI for sure.

[Renew Deal]

31. Will they all drink the kool-aid?

[grantcart]

39. I just convened a grand jury in my neighborhood and we concluded a bill of charges

against Steph, Carl and Mack.


I have 4 counts of treason and 14 counts of trying to interfere with a federal official, 8 counts of mail fraud and 2 counts of beastiality (next door Granma Muggins says that she can see beastiality a mile off and we never argue with her).



The rest of you can read these posts or you can, like me, convene your own grand jury.



Now what are you going to do about it?

[Howardx]

47. hoist on their own petard

they HAVE to honor your presentment!

[Adelante]

45. Secret Service and FBI have been notified

I sent the bold quote with the link.

[grantcart]

49. You should send a note to Dexter as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_ (TV_series)

[Catshrink]

50. Good.

The birthing crew will get (another) knock on the door from the FBI, SecretService, etc.

[rvablue]

59. The googles told me one of these guys already got a visit from

Secret Service the last week of May.

((on edit: or so the nutbag claims....))

[pipi_k]

52. Whoa, that's quite a visual...

"A Constitutional crisis of Biblical proportions"


Is that better or worse than plagues and locusts?

[Frustratedlady]

54. They don't plan on doing this on July 4th...

It says...

"...it's going to be over by July 4." BY July 4.

Even if this stirs up one person, it's one too many.

[Adelante]

57. Right - it's supposed to be on or about June 29

That's what I told the FBI and SS.

[Frustratedlady]

58. No, that's my birthday!

These people make me sick to my stomach. I worry about those who aren't posting their stupid ideas so someone can find them.

Thanks for notifying authorities.

[MUAD_DIB]

135. But it is already the 30th.

[knowbody0]

60. presentment????

what a KOOL new word

[wordpix]

118. ya---wtf is THAT? Somewhere between a present & an indictment?

[onenote]

62. Y'know a constitutional crisis of "biblical proportions" WOULD be a constitutional crisis.

[Sheltiemama]

63. Good luck hand-delivering it to Obama, Skippy.

[Canuckistanian]

64. Rioting everywhere! Dog and cats sleeping together!

Apocalips is coming!!!111!1

[Name removed]

67. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Howardx]

69. where is that rumored?

a link to said rumor perhaps?

[Cha]

68. No mention of fellow birther,

james von brunn? Didn't he take one for the team?

[HopeOverFear]

72. I just copied and pasted that whole thing into an email and sent it

to a dude at the secret service.

[Adelante]

75. Great, thanks

Sending it to a specific individual is best.

[HopeOverFear]

77. Hopefully the President will be out of town by then

in Chicago or Hawaii

[ecstatic]

99. Good. Thank you for taking action!

I wouldn't know who to send it to.

[wordpix]

119. thank you!

[mzteris]

76. swensson's page

http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/profile/CarlSwensson

[mzteris]

78. MACK ELLIS

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/MACKELLIS

http://www.resistnet.com/profile/MACKELLIS

[Patsy Stone]

79. How much is this "event" going to cost?

I can't imagine they aren't trying to get money out of these poor saps.

[mzteris]

80. Walter Fitzpatrick

http://logisticsmonster.com/tag/us-navy-officer-walter-... /.

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=...

[gauguin57]

82. I think "Constitutional crisis of biblical proportions" sums it up for these loopity-loos.

They can't tell their constitution from their bible. Or their ass from a hole in the ground.

[gauguin57]

83. Crap. Did the Mayan calendar run out before it was supposed to?

Geez. I thought I had until Dec. 21, 1012. Now I have to clean out my files, get my will updated, make sure I have lots of lentils, bottled water, duct tape and plastic sheeting.

[gauguin57]

84. It's probably another fake tape with an incorrectly translated declaration that Obama was born ...

... in Iceland or something. They probably have Barack's great-great auntie Bjork testifying she was present at his birth in Rejkevik.

[CakeGrrl]

86. "If you know of a film crew". Don't those ijits know how to contact Hannity or Beck?

If this crap had one iota of potential to cause "rioting everywhere", Fox would be happy to sponsor it.

[CitizenPatriot]

123. and not to be too picky

what with the Law Suits and Biblical crisis of Constitutional Proportions, but they don't want a film crew, they want a tv crew.

Why they want that before they get brains is beyond me. Just look what happened to Palin when she did TV before brains. They never learn.

[yellowcanine]

90. "I am shaking as I type this." These guys do scare easily it appears.

[onenote]

91. Be nice. The DTs can be rough

[Raine]

109. They're scared of their own shadow

[Terran]

92. It's a Biblical crisis of constitutional proportions...

or somethng like that. :yawn:

I hope these morons have a really crappy 4th...probably get all sullen drunk and singe a few fingers.

[ksoze]

95. To understand them you would a drill, some liquor and a mirror...

as you perform a self-lobotomy. Make sure you drill deep enough - you need to make sure you are really stupid.

[brooklynite]

96. Will "the truth" be revealed before or after the "Michelle Obama videotape"?

[Adelante]

104. Sounds like they're looking to take the President by citizens' arrest

This guy seems to be trying to talk them down:

Stephen Pidgeon

Jun 19, 2009 - 3:13PM


Grand Jury march on DC in July

The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects the right of the citizens to peaceably assemble. It does not protect citizens who intend insurrection. The contemplation of the founders has always considered the preservation of the republic and the rule of law to be paramount - against enemies foreign and domestic.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 allows for the use of the United States armed forces within the boundaries of the US in the event of any insurrection which threatens the functioning of the constitutional republic. Posse comitatus is not applicable to open insurrection.

Anyone who intends an escalation from a peaceable protest to acts of violence needs to rethink their position on behalf of the entire contrarian movement; you will do an immeasurable disservice to the patriots in this country who are seeking to restore the constitutional republic and the rule of law by lawful and just means. ANY ACT OF VIOLENCE DESTROYS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE MOVEMENT.

Let me put it more clearly: You cannot restore the rule of law by unlawful means! Claims to common law authority and other dicta that are not found in the juris prudence of the United States are not the law - they are merely "persuasive" authority, and do not provide for unlawful activity such as the use of force.

A "citizen's arrest" is a bald use of force that may possibly be justified later in a courtroom. In the event the case cannot be made, the person making the citizen's arrest will be charged with crimes associated with the arrest, including assault, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon, and other charges that may be applicable.

You should know that in making a citizen's arrest, the citizen to be arrested is authorized and justified in using all force necessary to combat the arrest. Where the President is concerned, you will be confronting a $7 trillion military machine against whom you stand no chance.

If your plan "D" includes violence, you need to immediately rethink your position and abandon the field. Make your voice heard - but if you can't win in the marketplace of ideas because the general population wants to move in a different direction, you have to consider either adjusting to the world they are making with objection, or make plans to live elsewhere.

The use of violence will destroy the movement that opposes Obama's presidency and will give the Feds justification to arrest many more freedoms, including shutting down all streams of contrary opinion - which includes Plains Radio.

Back off, while you still can.

Stephen Pidgeon
State: Washington

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum...

If I'm not mistaken, this guy sued Obama in one of the birther cases.

[Adelante]

105. Stephen Pidgeon is a lawyer in Washington State

Here is his website:

http://stephenpidgeon.com /

The case he was involved with is Broe v. Reed, which was dismissed by the Washington State Supreme Court.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/broe-...

He is now one of the leaders of this grand jury thing.

From Googling, I also see that he was crying in March 2009 that he was being shadowed by Homeland Security.

Also, in the birfer wars, there are people claiming he took them for money. Surprise.

Read all about it:

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/11008/the-crumbling...

And, to top it off, he humps to repeal the Domestic Partnership Expansion Law of 2009 in Washington state.

What a guy.

[Catshrink]

108. How do they think they can get close enough to the President for a citizen's arrest?

The Secret Service wouldn't let them within 100 feet. Unless they're planning to be in a handshake line and pull it then.

[tanyev]

107. "in the year of our Lord 2009"

Pretentious much? Loooooosers.

[Adelante]

111. Holy mackerel!! They think they can recruit VP Biden to their cause

cookndrive



Jun 19th, 2009 - 11:08 PM
Quote Reply Re: Grand Jury march on DC in July

I have an idea, why not make a special effort to have an appointment with Joe Biden? Show HIM the presentments, and let HIM force the issue. Don't you think he wants to be president??? He has run for the office in the last 3 elections. He has EVERYTHING to gain. (But do we really WANT him to be POTUS?) Also, are the presentments including Ms. Pelosi who certified BHO's elibility for treason and fraud? We cannot let those benefit who assisted in this travesty.

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum...

[mucifer]

112. John Hodgman was making fun of them last night and Prez Obama was giggling

at the idea that Obama might not even be human.

[gauguin57]

113. I loved that from Hodgman.

Don't miss the video if you missed the speech!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/19/john-hodgman-r...

[Life Long Dem]

121. 6 months...

constitutional... what? Let's do something united, like help Iranian's? Not the election, but the freedom.

[Yavin4]

124. I Want A "Soetoro 2012" Bumpersticker and T-Shirt

Just to make them even crazier.

[HopeOverFear]

129. HA!

[beac]

130. Have these loons ever been to DC on 7/4?? Beyond the fact that it's a national HOLIDAY, they

will be surrounded by drunk patriots who waited a little too long to start looking for a bathroom.

Then again, maybe that's WHY they chose July 4th...


The revolution will begin at the porta-pottys!!!

[Cobalt-60]

132. I think Mike knows

He's got to still be here.
I can't imagine this place without Agent Mike.
He's our liason to the man!

[IndianaGreen]

139. There is that Kenyan birth certificate to a Barack Obama

except that it is for Obama Sr. Didn't they read the year of birth? Duh?

[and-justice-for-all]

141. Sounds like code talk to me..

because this birth certificate thing is bullshit and I think they use it as a metaphor.

to the Secret Service it goes.

[mzteris]

142. yesterday was the 29th . . .

did anything happen?

[Adelante]

143. Thread here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...