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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:43 AM
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Protesters in Tehran have a surprising view on Obama's silence: Keep it up.

Iranians to Obama: Hush

by Azadeh Moaveni

Lipstick Jihad author Azadeh Moaveni says protesters in Tehran have a surprising view on Obama's silence: Keep it up.



Even during subdued times, Iranians tend to have oversize expectations of the United States, and what it can or cannot do for their troubled nation. I remember riding a bus through central Tehran last summer, surprised at how openly a young woman expressed her desperation with the grim state of Iranian politics: “Let the Americans come,” she said loudly. "Let them sort things out for us once and for all." The women's section, at the back of the bus of course, took her remark casually, and some nodded.

This lingering belief among Iranians that America has some unique control over their fate is a legacy of the two nations' tangled past. Beginning with the American coup that overthrew Iran's democratically elected prime minister, Mohammed Mosaddeq, in 1953, through to Jimmy Carter's tepid response to the revolutionary crowds that helped bring down the shah's regime in 1979, both U.S. action and inaction are considered equally powerful among most Iranians.

Given this history, Iranians have looked curiously to Washington in recent days, eager to see what America's new president has to say about Ahmadinejad's fraudulent re-election and the furious protests it has unleashed. The years I've spent living in Iran, both under President Ahmadinejad and his more moderate predecessor, led me to expect that most people would be desperate for a nod from America. Until last week, Iranian student leaders often insisted that they didn't have the power to meaningfully oppose their government from the inside. They said they needed the West to pressure the mullahs as well, in hopes that the regime would eventually feel squeezed on all sides.

But in conversations with friends and relatives in Tehran this week, I've heard the opposite of what I had expected: a resounding belief that this time the United States should keep out. One of my cousins, a woman in her mid-30s who has been attending the daily protests along with the rest of her family, viewed the situation pragmatically. “The U.S. shouldn't interfere, because a loud condemnation isn't going to affect Iranian domestic politics one way or the other. If the supreme leader decides to crackdown on the protests and Ahmadinejad stays in power, then negotiations with the United States might improve our lives.”

I heard these sentiments, remarkably thoughtful for such a passionate moment, echoed from many quarters. President Barack Obama's outreach to Iran, and his offer of a mutually respectful dialogue, has raised the possibility of better relations for the first time in years, and many Iranians worry that a false step might jeopardize that prospect altogether. A friend of mine who studies public relations in Tehran noted that other American allies in the Gulf, Arab dictatorships with no pretence of democracy, are thriving economically. “In the end, a dictatorship that doesn't face U.S. sanctions is better off than one that does,” she said. “Now that after 30 years it seems that we have a chance to negotiate with America, it would be a shame if we lost the chance.”

Other friends I spoke with cited various reasons why the United States should maintain its discrete posture. “If Obama's position until now has been to respect Iran, then he really has no choice but to watch first how things unfold. Mousavi hasn't produced any facts yet, no one has produced evidence of fraud,” said my friend Ali, a 40-year-old photographer. “That's what is needed before Obama takes a major stand.”

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-17/iranians-to-obama-hush/?cid=hp:blogunit1
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:49 AM
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1. This is exactly the position that Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Senator Kerry believes in
and feels is the right course.

"With Iran, Think Before You Speak"

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/opinion/18kerry.html
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:50 AM
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2. I believe also that we should not "meddle" in their affairs.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:55 AM
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3. Seems obvious to me
Though this morning the Washington Post is telling us that the Obama Admin is "struggling" over a response. :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:56 AM
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13. The wapo can
bite me.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:05 PM
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17. the media seems to be looking for mis-steps.
NBC and MSNBC were such downers yesterday. "Oh the approval ratings are sinking! Is this the end of the honeymoon? What will he do now??" etc etc.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:55 AM
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4. John Kerry seems to get it. nt
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:02 AM
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5. ABSOLUTELY!! Nothing, ABSOLUTELY nothing would discredit their struggle for democracy more
than this movement to appear like stooges for the United States.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:57 AM
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14. Precisely. n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:05 AM
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6. They are handling it perfectly.. NT
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:07 AM
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7. Living overseas for 20 years I have noticed an almost universal 'love-hate' relationship

with the US. The most intense 'love-hate' paradox is with Iranians. Even during the revolution when hostages were still being held, it was a common experience to meet Iranians who thought that it was no big thing and that the US and Iran would soon be best friends. The largest spontaneous candle vigils on September 12th in the world, were in Tehran.


A typical kind of experience was the one I had while teaching at a Thai University and the only colleage who was fluent in conversational English would sit next to me every day and rail against American Imperialism, the war in Vietnam. While sympathetic to her argument her intensity of feeling made it very tedious and somewhat exhausting so I avoided her. After missing her for a week she cornered me and said, "I have great news, my visa has been approved, I am going to be an American". I was stunned.

From then on whenever somebody tried to engage me on a anti-American rant I would turn the conversation away and then return only to find, in virtually all cases, that the people who were the most vocal also were the most envious and either wanted to go to the US or wanted the American lifestyle to come there.

It is way to complex a situation to get in the middle of, and it could turn people from the love side to the hate side in a single comment. Stay quiet.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:05 AM
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10. If people did not have high expectations of America, they wouldn't
bother with being upset about it.

Much the same as my own attitude.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:11 AM
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8. knr nt
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:22 AM
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9. Render neither assistance nor interference. . .
considering the past 55 years between Iran and the US, it's a prudent move on Obama's part.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:28 AM
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11. The women have to sit
at the back of the bus? Hell, that's reason enough for a revolution.

I guess it makes sense given the hatred of women in the ME.

Organized religions...what a waste of time and effort and humanity.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:02 PM
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15. I know..
so true, imho.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:55 AM
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12. Totally makes sense! And,
I guess it makes sense now why lieberman and the neocons are calling for standing loud with the protesters and not being a "cream puff"..or whatever their latest dribble is.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:02 PM
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16. Only surprising if you're a clueless Republican
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:45 PM
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18. Richard Lugar said the same thing
and he's one of the few Repubs with a brain on foreign affairs. He said that Obama is doing exactly the right thing on Iran.
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