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Obama is "scared of his own troops" because he won't let Navy grads wear swords.

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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-12-09 06:52 PM
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Obama is "scared of his own troops" because he won't let Navy grads wear swords.
Have you seen the reich-wing smear d' jour.

Apparently, The Washington Times blog re-printed a statement that Navy grads were requested to leave swords and umbrellas at home during the ceremony . . . which prompted the rabid right to claim that "Full Dress White includes 'wear sword'. More to the point . . . those badges of office have been earned in a manner Obongo and his minions just wouldn’t begin to understand. Important traditions that inspire are kind of lost on the red banner crowd, apparently.

Further, ceremonial swords never seemed to bother the Secret Service for any previous President."

Wow, damning stuff if true.

Of course, it's not true.

Here're Cheney's own photographs of HIS speech at Annapolis in 2006.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/vicepresiden...

Do you see anybody wearing swords?

Not only that, the Navy Press Office put out a clarifying statement to Soldier of Fortune magazine of all sources:

Unfortunately, this (Washington Times) article is extremely misleading. Midshipmen are not required to have swords as part of their normal uniform issue unless they are Brigade Officers, and then they are issued temporary swords for parades and other ceremonial events.

Officers may add the sword and wear it at ceremonial events such as change of commands, weddings, etc. as designated. They are not, nor have they ever been worn by Midshipmen at graduation.

Many parents give swords to graduates to be worn with their officer uniform after commissioning, but they along with many other items are routinely banned from being carried into the graduation ceremony for obvious security reasons.




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   I've already explained on a rt. wing board that these rules are NOT new. nt  Captain Hilts   Jun-12-09 06:52 PM   #1 
   Thanks, Capt. Do you have a link to the source? nt  mistertrickster   Jun-12-09 06:57 PM   #4 
      Here you go. Guest rules in force since 2002:  Captain Hilts   Jun-12-09 07:00 PM   #5 
         OMGosh! You're right. I googled LAST YEAR'S rules and they say  mistertrickster   Jun-12-09 07:22 PM   #11 
            Go for it!  Captain Hilts   Jun-12-09 07:49 PM   #13 
   Not surprising  sakabatou   Jun-12-09 06:56 PM   #2 
   The graduating class of 2002 was the first to not have ceremonial swords  WeDidIt   Jun-12-09 06:56 PM   #3 
   Gawd...  wryter2000DU Moderator   Jun-12-09 07:01 PM   #6 
   I believe you. But without a link, nobody will believe me. nt.  mistertrickster   Jun-12-09 07:02 PM   #8 
   No one. NO ONE wants to see an ensign with a sword! All dad's was good for was  Captain Hilts   Jun-12-09 07:02 PM   #9 
   "Obongo"???? wtf?  daninthemoon   Jun-12-09 07:01 PM   #7 
   one of many racist names he's been called on rw blogs :(  HopeOverFear   Jun-12-09 07:11 PM   #10 
   That's the Moonie Times for you... n/t  backscatter712   Jun-12-09 07:34 PM   #12 
   Remember, 1/20/2005, raining, cold miserable ...  zbdent   Jun-12-09 07:56 PM   #14 
   Actually, I just found out--the sword ban was on GUESTS, not grads, duh  mistertrickster   Jun-12-09 08:25 PM   #15 
 
Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-12-09 06:52 PM
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1. I've already explained on a rt. wing board that these rules are NOT new. nt
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-12-09 06:57 PM
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4. Thanks, Capt. Do you have a link to the source? nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-12-09 07:00 PM
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5. Here you go. Guest rules in force since 2002:
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-12-09 07:22 PM
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11. OMGosh! You're right. I googled LAST YEAR'S rules and they say
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-12-09 07:49 PM
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13. Go for it!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-12-09 06:56 PM
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2. Not surprising
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-12-09 06:56 PM
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3. The graduating class of 2002 was the first to not have ceremonial swords
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 06:58 PM by WeDidIt
on anybody attending the graduation (Midshipman never have them).

The policy was a direct reaction to 9/11.

So if any president is to blame, it's Bush.
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wryter2000 DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-12-09 07:01 PM
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6. Gawd...
That's priceless. Bush afraid of Annapolis grads. :rofl:
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jun-12-09 07:02 PM
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8. I believe you. But without a link, nobody will believe me. nt.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-12-09 07:02 PM
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9. No one. NO ONE wants to see an ensign with a sword! All dad's was good for was
tripping my mother at Change of Command ceremonies.

Everything a submarine should be - and SO much more - USS Sea Robin, circa 1963:


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7. "Obongo"???? wtf?
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10. one of many racist names he's been called on rw blogs :(
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 07:12 PM by HopeOverFear
on the totus blog some heifer called Michelle "monkey face"
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12. That's the Moonie Times for you... n/t
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14. Remember, 1/20/2005, raining, cold miserable ...
no umbrellas ...
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15. Actually, I just found out--the sword ban was on GUESTS, not grads, duh
The Washington Times really are the worst, aren't they.
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