So the TORTURERS are FROTHING AT THE MOUTH because PELOSI didn't PROTEST THEIR TORTURING enough?!!!

[TankLV]

Don't EVER even mention about the TORTURERS TORTURING in the FIRST place - WE MUST INVESTIGATE PELOSI and DEMOCRATS because THEY DIDN'T STOP US FROM COMMITING CRIMES!!!

That's their latest argument in a nutshell, isn't it?!!!

Am I missing something?

[baldguy]

1. No, you got it right.

And too many Dems are ready to cast Pelosi into the pit because of it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. She set herself up.

She's suppose to be a saavy politician. If she didn't know the criticism that was coming to her, well, then let that be a historical lesson that will stand the test of time.

The only thing Pelosi has on her side to defend her, is Bob Graham's journal. I suggest she stick to him like glue these days.

[baldguy]

17. Right, she decided what info she was given & how and when the torture began.

:eyes:

[The Backlash Cometh]

25. I think most responsible people would have faltered on the word, "torture."

[baldguy]

26. "Enhanced interrogation" you mean.

The Bushies never used the word torture to describe the crimes they committed.

And believe it or not, they never used the word crime either!

:banghead:

[Buzz Clik]

2. You're right on target. But the DU Pelosi haters will dismiss your post.

Sorry.

[C_U_L8R]

3. Behind all the froth and bluster

are Republican cowards who are shitting their diapers at the thought of jailtime

[FSogol]

4. K&R. n/t

[KingFlorez]

5. That's about what they're saying

Everything with them is a big game of gotcha, rather it makes sense or not.

[lazer47]

6. Even if SOH Pelosi have of stood and watched waterboarding

she could not have said anything, people are forgetting it was CLASSIFIED,, she would be in jail now for divulging top secret information, and have really had the Repigs up in arms, and trying to impeach her.

[Gman2]

7. Yes, but those repub fucks didnt factor in that they will not be able to contain

the heat. Pelosi is screaming for a vindication. The rotten, thuggish, torturing fucks will not be able to squelch her demands. If she is innocent, it will turn on the thugs and the searing heat will see them extinct. I anticipate the repubs condemning the name republican into history. This is getting good.

[chill_wind]

8. Never underestimate the Radical Right Wingnuts' capacity for tortured logic itself.

It's frightening. It really is.

[jasmeel]

9. This is what pisses me off! How did this become primarily a Pelosi

problem????? This is the kind of mind fuck that comes from the media!

[Kdillard]

10. You have it exactly right and the media is letting them get away with it.

Pelosi needs to scream even more for investigations and a truth commission.

[Wednesdays]

21. Get away with it?

Hell, the M$M is complicit and is driving the message!

[Canuckistanian]

11. You're not missing anything

They're protesting despite the fact that Pelosi basically appeared to agree with their point of view - that waterboarding was no big deal.

It's bizzaro world.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. this is the right wing's lame attempt

the right wing is about about to have their covers ripped off

[BlooInBloo]

13. There's nothing wrong with torture! Pelosi knew!

:rofl:

Crazy fuckers.

[krabigirl]

14. Yep. It's very sick.

[Spazito]

16. You are not missing a thing,,,,

Tortured logic used to misdirect the public on the illegal use of torture.

[northernlights]

18. their attempt to stop Pelosi from investigating them

is not going to work, if only because Pelosi's apparently stumbling response this past week is only going to further force the investigation issue.

They never considered the possibility that dems would say investigate, and let the chips fall where they may.

[rustydog]

19. All Pelosi has to say to these hypocritical idiots:

If what I did is so wrong in your eyes, why aren't you screaming for the head of Dick Cheny, George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Condi Rice? (not to mention Yoo, Rove, Myers, Gonzalez etc.

These people conceived, approved and initiated the torture program you are accusing me of being complicit in.

[Jennicut]

20. Exactly correct.Which makes the so called controversy about Pelosi all the more inane

So old Newtie calls for an investigation on Nancy and yet Bush, Cheney and co are still not investigated. Its ass backward logic and utterly laughable.

[Cali_Democrat]

22. Yep...you nailed it.

K&R

[Puzzler]

23. That's it... and the fact that most of the MSM seems to be buying it ...

... proves what a bizzaro world we're in right now.

[xiamiam]

24. msm is becoming irrelevant as the repubs...truth will prevail ultimately

in spite of their rovian distractions...the difference between 5 years ago and now is that the illogical argument is a joke..propagandized by the pundits and so called journalists how helped get us into this mess ...

[TankLV]

27. Kick - this needs to be shouted far and wide...!!!

[opihimoimoi]

28. KICK.....the attempt to connect Nancy with Torture by the RW's is backfiring as more TRUTH Surfaces

Poor GOPers...nothing in their ammo can but cow chips

[lunatica]

29. Never stand in the way of your enemy destroying themselves. Shhhhhh....

[Vinca]

30. That's about it.

Nancy didn't create torture, authorize torture or commit torture. She may or may not have known about it. I think the Republicans are seriously overplaying their hand. If there is a serious investigation over this, they'll be going down hard.

[rasputin1952]

31. They laid a trap for Pelosi...

some have taken the bait, others see it for what it is.

A couple of the outcomes here...neither of them good for the GOP. One, Pelosi calls for an independent counsel, which will expose bush/cheney and the rest of the cabal and probably bring charges against them, (or at least a group of underlings). Two, W/O an investigation, Pelosi is exonerated of the "charges" against her...this is simple, bring Hastert into the equation, he was SOH at the time, just what did he know? This will bring other R's into the ditch, DeLay, comes to mind, and they will be exposed as the real liars in this situation, complicit from day one to the claims the former administration made for war, torture and the following disaster.

This is not over, and no matter how it pans out, it will not be good for the GOP. Cheney takes a gamble, I'd like to see a full investigation...he'd never survive, after all, at least 51% of the decision to move on torture was his.

Thing is, this is going to take time, as all things do in politics, there is no "magic" involved, it is all about time and diligent work.

[PassingFair]

32. It reminds me of a friend of mine who was going through a divorce....

He had grown somewhat alienated from his wife
after the birth of their child.

She was a type A "scheduling" freak, and he
was on the road a lot between Detroit and
Toledo as a salesman.

He began to habituate the "exotic dance" lounges
near the airport between Toledo and home, and
ran up nearly $50,000 on credit cards that his
wife didn't know about.

When she found out, she BLEW UP! (naturally).

I'll never forget the time, right before
the divorce was final, when he came over to
my house to hang out (our children were friends...)
and he told me that the divorce was HER FAULT, because
she:

"Must have known, and she didn't STOP HIM".

Yes, it was her fault, he said, and then said:

"You would never let YOUR husband "get away"
with what I did."


:crazy:


His behavior wasn't the catalyst, HER
not stopping it was!

:crazy:

And she didn't even KNOW about it until
she found out about the credit cards!

[Z_I_Peevey]

33. One of the indicators of selfishess, immaturity and downright

psychopathy is the inability to take responsibility for one's own actions. It is always someone else's fault.

The GOP right now is a big blob of decompensating psychopathy. They're melting.