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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:13 PM
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Grade President Obama's 1st 100 days
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:21 PM
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1. So
36% think that the job he's doing warrants an F-. Gotta love those who still live under that bubble with George Bush, afraid to show their heads in the real world.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:22 PM
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2. And surprise surpise, it's being Freeped.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:11 PM
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5. It's a serious error
to assume that the only people who don't appreciate his first 100 days are "freepers."

That's the invisible elephant in the room that so many Democrats and Duers don't want to look at.

It is expected that he will find opposition from the right. He's also done a bang-up job of alienating much of the left.

It's one thing to piss off your enemies. When you piss off your allies as well, you aren't putting yourself in the position to be successful.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:15 PM
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6. It's pretty safe to say the Fs are from Freeps unless you're saying that's your score as well. n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:41 PM
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10. I don't give him an overall "F-."
He gets the F- on education.

A "D" on the war on terror, the bank bailout, and health care.

He does better in other areas.

I guess, if I had to give him an overall grade, it would hover somewhere between C- and D+.

I'm hoping he'll up that grade on the SCOTUS nomination.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:42 PM
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12. Well, that would be higher than the F- that you were defending. Thanks for clarifying. n/t
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:21 PM
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7. You've made some good points, especially on education
Arne Duncan sounds no better than someone Bush would appoint.

I give Obama a B+, but as you have said, someone in your position would give him a lower grade. I have the luxury of looking over all the factors like number of accomplishments, the Bush mess, feeling a strong like for the President considering the Repukes, going against a media that acts like Obama has gone hard left, etc. :hi:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:38 PM
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8. I don't give him an "F-," except on education.
I am surprised, though, that so many have been willing to distance the left along with Obama, and then assume that people who aren't pleased must be "freepers."

I guess the difference between the left and "freepers" are that Obama could make up lost ground with the left; we haven't written him off, and will be there should he decide that he might want our support and participation.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:39 PM
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9. Well said
Hope you have a good weekend, LWolf. :hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:41 PM
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11. My assumption is your score would be lower but you were defending the F-. n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:17 AM
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13. Assumptions are often faulty.
I am not defending the "F-," although it doesn't surprise me. I'm pointing out that poor grades for the Obama admin come from the left as well as the right, because the OP suggests that those who aren't happy with Obama must be "freepers."

That is simply not true. "Freepers" are just one group.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:42 PM
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14. I think the implication was the F- came from Freepers.
I think that might be accurate because of the hyperbolic "minus" on the F.

I'm torn on education. I've heard passionate arguments between teachers' unions and those supportive of Duncan's reform. Haven't made up my mind.

I oppose the corporate welfare in the form of bail-outs. I oppose acceleration in Afghanistan. I oppose anything short of a public option on healthcare, preferably single-payer, ideally taking insurance companies out of the loop completely.

I just thought the F- was hyperbole and hoped you found something to bump that score up a bit, and you did. That's what separates us from the Freepers.

Cheers.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 07:11 AM
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15. True.
As far as Education goes, here is this educators pov:

It's telling that I am an educator who is completely appalled by the appointment of Duncan, given his record, and Obama's education plan, specifically charter schools and merit pay.

I've been an advocate of reform for the 25 years I've worked within the system. No one knows the dysfunctions, sees the need for change, more clearly than those who work within it.

I've also taught at alternative schools for most of my career. That first-hand experience is why I don't support the push for charters. I've seen how they work to create two tiers of "public" schools.

I'm not against change. I'm against giving some schools more flexibility to change the way they do things while ensuring that the rest are strictly standardized. Those "tiers" will INCREASE, not decrease, the "achievement gap," and keep most schools underperforming, thus keeping the disdain for public education alive, and providing more support for the privatizers. Don't push for "charter" schools. Give EVERY school within a district a little more autonomy and flexibility, and then allow families to choose which school to attend.

I'm against merit pay; there is simply no objective way to measure one teacher's "merit" as opposed to another. Until all children are standardized, and that will never, thankfully, happen. The data available to determine a "teacher" merit will be test scores. There's really no way around it. And that opens the door to further corruption in the system.

We know what the most consistent predictor of test scores are, and it's not the teacher. It's parent SES. Simply manipulating class rosters can predict who would get "merit" pay, and who would not. That's a political tool that can, and will, be used to "reward" teachers who support admins, and "punish" those who don't.

That's not school reform. That's a political manipulation of educators that has nothing to do with actual learning.





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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:55 PM
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3. Those are some real asswipes freepers giving him an F!
I gave him an A+ just to counteract their bullshit! :mad:
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:49 AM
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4. Thanks
They are all just sore losers.
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