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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:41 AM
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Supreme Court Nominee Compromise with GOP? Never

Supreme Court Nominee Compromise with GOP? Never

by paradox

Lost in all the achievement milestones and hoopla over Obamas first 100 days in office was an event on April 23 that reassured me to a great extent we have a good President: he reminded our Republican cousinsthree timesthat he had sincerely reached out for bipartisanship in the stimulus workup and got stabbed in the back for it. The little whiners said President Obama was thin-skinned for it.

This is how a pathetic loser party comes about, by the way. They talk out of both sides of their face about how terrible liberals are but now that they have no power how critically important it is we compromise with them. Precisely because of their incompetence we face a possible Depression, yet they chuck country to the winds to play privileged white male dick games and stab the President over imperative stimulus. When the country is virulently disgusted (polling confirms it) and the President later reminds them they are totally screwed for it, like hell hes forgotten, they horribly spin it by suggesting the President has sensitivity problems.

Keep on losing, Grand Old Party. Government is all we have to get us out of our conflagration, folks are watching very closely, and they saw this pathetic whining display by obnoxious quarrelling little boys who were rightly being called out for being such manifest fuckups. Winners employ honesty and responsibility every day, try it sometime, maybe it will stop that 2012 slide to 30 senators.

Winners also learn quickly, as President Obama does. I noticed on the 100 day lists of achievements and mistakes stimulus compromise rarely made it, but I was absolutely livid at the time, for a Machiavellian realist few things are as infuriating as watching politicians enact policy for a world as they wish it to be, not as the implacable reality staring them in the face demands it to be so. Republicans had earned not a nanosecond of trust, we gave up critical dollarsevery cent counts to get the country backand Republicans made President Obama look weak when they sucker-punched him on the vote, all of which was so 100% predictable. Nope, President Obama wont forget that when it comes to nominating our next Supreme Court Justice.

Another element of the stimulus workup should always be remembered as the Supreme Court nominee is chosen: even though theyre losers with no ideas who often rant hypocritical gibberish (cutting taxes raises revenue deficits never mattered under Bush but do now) Republicans are all over television. By ratios of 2-1, sometimes 3-1, corporate American journalism gives Republicans face and idea time for their ridiculous spin. Just because Republicans dominate television doesnt mean they dominate the countrys thinking, not hardly.

Scoff if one wishes, television relevance is an easy trap to fall into, its a big part of how the bubble is inflated around DC. The reporters and opposition are everywhere, its difficult to combat the relentless daily hectoring, bullshit and spin, then only to go home to television and see them everywhere too.

We can be very confident that after the little tricks Republicans have pulled on the stimulus and other matters the inevitable hourly Republican whining on TV about how the next Supreme Court justice needs to be centrist, how the white dudes just cannot face any more searing American persecution, well, its just empty political white noise, USSC justice compromise with Republicans here isnt necessary and wouldnt happen in a million years, not in the context of American politics 2009.

In a bit of fun and hopeful learning for our good American Republican cousins, let us reinforce some implacable reality upon our collective American political consciousness, shall we? Republicans have gotten their unholy asses kicked in the last two elections and currently whine under a Democratic President with frigid Congressional minority status, theyre so out in the cold the Democrats have 60 Senate votes, man. Republican polling numbers went south even more, if that were possible, after they obstructed countering a Depression. The wattles of Mitch McConnell tremble bravely in GOP leadership as viciously internecine Rush-led battles break out everywhere. Many seasoned observers say theyve never seen anything so politically pathetic, and theyre right.

To top it all off they truly pissed off a brilliant Harvard Law Review President with stratospheric popularity numbers, he is as trusted and popular as the country is distrustful and disgusted with their GOP selves. Whine and yap on TV for months, Republicans, go ahead, Supreme Court justice compromise isnt necessary, wanted or ever happening.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/014057.php
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:52 AM
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1. Bipartisan
The Republicans problem (or a least how they try to sell it) is that they think bipartisan means they get an equal say in everything. That is not the case. In the last two elections the American people have spoken and they want to move in the direction the Democratic party and President Obama have expounded. The Democrats could, especially with the 60 vote Senate, just run roughshod over the minority Republicans, but bipartisan means they wouldn't do that and they would listen to and let Republicans have input on legislation, appointments, etc. By thumbing their noses at bipartisanship during the stimulus debate the conservatives have basically said they aren't interested in being involved unless they are in control. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned it should be full speed ahead with the Democratic agenda with no compromising. If the Republicans can convince us that they have changed their ways and given up the 'unreality' of their echo chamber spin and lies and really want to work together maybe sometime in the future we can reapproach the bipartisan ideal until then the little boys and girls of the Republican party just need to get out of the way while the adults get the work done.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:41 AM
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2. You wrote
Edited on Sat May-02-09 10:41 AM by Abq_Sarah
The Republicans problem (or a least how they try to sell it) is that they think bipartisan means they get an equal say in everything. That is not the case.

Uh.... actually that is what it means. Congressional approval ratings remain dismal and they can't be blamed entirely on the repubs. Luckily, President Obamas approval ratings remain good but that isn't going to help the congress in 2010 if we are perceived as shutting out the republicans. That's how they lost the Congress.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:19 PM
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3. Disagree
The congressional numbers are lower than we would like (even though the Democrats aren't too bad) but they are up from where they were during the Bush era. I absolutely disagree with the idea that the voters put in one party/philosophy/agenda by their vote and in the name of 'bipartisanship' we should ignore their wishes and give equal say to the party/philosophy/agenda that they chose to vote out. As I stated bipartisan should mean that the minority party is never totally shutout of the process but part of bipartisanship is the minority parties acknowledgment that the majority gets to set the direction and the basic agenda with input and help from the 'loyal opposition'.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:53 PM
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4. I'll Make This Simple For You Sarah
The 'Licans did not lose Congress because they shut out Democrats. They lost Congress because they are ASSHOLES and the American people know an ASSHOLE when they see one.

America lost it's way big time under W, but it is getting it's bearings back. The vision problem is being corrected and the fog is lifting. Congressional approval ratings were damaged because the 'Licans made things so fucking unbearable, thus everyone suffered and the blame was misplaced.

Now, people are beginning to understand that the 'Licans caused this fucking mess. We do not need to include the spoiled brats that shit the bed and demand we clean it up. We can tell them to fuck off and rightly so. We owe them nothing but scorn.

Simple.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:19 PM
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5. Correct
The congressional approval rating when Bush was in office was in the teens. In recent CNN/Opinion research poll (personally I think their Democratic rating is a little low and the Repub definitely high) they show the Democrats at 43% approval 53% Disapproval, the Repubs at 31% approval 65% disapproval and the overall congressional rating at 35% approval 63% disapproval. The Republicans and their shenanigans are dragging the rating down. If the Republicans were willing to work in 'good faith' I would have no problem including them but the only thing they do is try to get the Democrats into a position that the conservatives can use against them. As long as that is their attitude screw 'em.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:22 PM
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9. Bullshit....
Democratic congresscritters outpoll republicans by 30 points, and the lead is increasing. Run and tell your friends that.

http://www.dailykos.com/weeklytrends

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:45 PM
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6. I have to say, I stopped reading your post
when I got to the "privileged white male dick games" bit. Too bad, It seemed as if there was much of importance to say...
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 06:04 PM
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7. Awwaaaahaaa Your Feelings Got Hurt
Poor thing. The "privileged white male dick games" made you sad. You had to spare your eyes. How fucking pathetic. The article is pointed to YOU, of course you are going to ignore it.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:29 PM
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8. Stay classy Binka
its all you've got :)
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