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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:32 PM
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3 words that can kill ANY 2012 Republican Presidential aspirations: "Palin considered abortion"
Palin said she considered abortion

By Raw Story

Published: April 17, 2009
Updated 11 hours ago

http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/04/17/palin-said-she-considered-abortion/



In her first out-of-state political appearance since last fall’s presidential election, former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin confided to 3,000 at a right-to-life event here that she had “just for a fleeting moment” contemplated seeking an abortion after learning she was pregnant with her son Trig, who will turn 1 on Saturday.

But at the Vanderburgh County Right-to-Life banquet — the country’s largest such annual event — supporters said they only hoped the governor’s appearance at the Oscar-length, four-hour dinner was a warm-up for a Palin presidential bid: “She’s showing that you can choose life and still be successful,” said Susan Weber, a school cafeteria manager and mother of four from Princeton, Ind., who was wearing a Sarah Palin 2012 campaign button and had brought along a book she hoped to get autographed — ‘The Terminatrix,’ featuring a gun-toting, leather-clad (and Photoshopped) Palin on the cover.

The governor’s 30-minute speech was folksy and full of digressions, but also surprisingly confessional, and she went into some detail about initially panicking after learning, 13 weeks into her pregnancy, that her son would be born with Down syndrome: “That blew me away, it rocked my world… It was a time I asked myself, was I going to walk the walk?”
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:35 PM
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1. Two words that kill any hopes of the Republicans chances of taking back The White House
Sarah Palin
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:37 PM
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2. Like most people on DU...
...I really, really, really hope that she will keep walkin' down that road to 2012. It's the most ABSOLUTE of all guarantees of a 2-term Obama presidency that we have.

:patriot:
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:41 PM
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5. I'd like a Palin vs. Romney fight-to-the-end, a la Obama and Hillary
Only the Repukes would never unite after a similar fight. And then they'd lose.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:19 PM
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11. Won't happen. In Republican primaries it is winner takes all
so someone can wrap the nomination a lot earlier, as McCain did.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:30 PM
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13. Palin-Gingrich 2012!
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:53 PM
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15. LOL..right wing nut meets right wing nut
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 09:54 PM by davidpdx
Good combination for a lose in 2012!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:22 PM
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12. Two words that would kill the hopes of the Republicans EVER taking back the White House
Paper Ballots.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:40 PM
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3. I saw that, she really found herself by choosing to keep the baby.
That's what happens when you are given choices in life, you get to figure out what really matters to you.
If one is forced to go through with a pregnancy for an unwanted child, that has other less awesome consequences for a person's psyche.




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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:42 PM
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6. Not to mention the child's.
Amazing how the revere-life-from-conception-to-birth crowd is quite unconcerned about the effect of being unwanted on a child.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:54 PM
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9. Hear! Hear!
I actually heard a little third grade reply to an Assistant Principal, who told her she heard her mom had just had a baby boy, " Yeh, but she didn't want it."

How horrible to grow up in that house. :cry:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:42 PM
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7. "...what really matters to you..."
...is never as important as what matters to the GOP.

I'm not commenting on Palin's choice...I'm commenting on the choice in the context of a party that would absolutely condemn her "consideration" if she were anyone other than Sarah Palin.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:40 PM
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4. She wants to take away every other woman's choice in the matter. eom
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:56 PM
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10. Yep, all while talking about having one.
I want to slap her!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:02 PM
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17. hypocrite
republican is thy name! ya know? :hi:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:52 PM
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8. Perfect. That's what she said, after all.
:applause:

Keep repeating it to all your RW coworkers, family and friends.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:51 PM
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14. she even went on to think the plan out...."I'm in Indiana, no one knows me here"
"nobody would ever know"...were her exact words.

In other words..."I could slip into a clinic and abort, no one in Alaska will know about it".

Sorry, but if one goes so far as to think out a PLAN...it was more than a "fleeting" moment.

Other thing..amnio's are done at 15-16 weeks, NOT at 13 weeks as SP says she had done. Apparently, docs have said that an amnio done at 13 weeks or less is NOT a reliable method of seeing if the fetus has Down's.

You can see the speech video over at mudflats...it's separated into several clips..the "in Indiana" comment is in the next to last video.

http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/17/palin-in-indiana-the-whole-enchilada/#comment-44708
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:01 PM
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16. makes the pro-choice argument for them
she does.....damn, she's dumber than a doorknob. :eyes:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:29 PM
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18. I would NEVER ... NEVER ... NEVER even let the thought enter my brain...
..... and I'm as bleeding heart as they come.

Well ... not compared to some of YALL lol but in the grand scheme of the world ... lol
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 01:41 AM
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19. You don't get it. She's following the narrative of temptation and redemption & they love it.
This is a big deal to the anti-choice pro-birthers: every pregnancy is God's Will, but any pregnancy may simultaneously be fraught with temptation to end it. The woman's health may be at risk, the fetus may be non-viable or badly damaged, the pregnancy may be the result of rape, or the mother may have other children already and be tipping into abject poverty.

No matter. A pregnancy is God's Will and part of God's Plan For You. The challenge is to figure out how to fit yourself into God's Plan. This may be excruciatingly hard, but Jesus was crucified and you can endure this cross; all you need to do is pray your way into acceptance and move forward. Even Jesus was tempted by Satan, but he refused the temptation and so can you.

See how it works? Sarah Palin is not necessarily being hypocritical with her base; instead she is enacting the narrative and they love her for it.

George Bush also enacted a narrative: that of the Prodigal Son who wasted his youth, returned to his father's house (Father/God), and was welcomed with love and forgiveness. He's a fascist schmuck, but that's another story.

The power of these biblical narratives is something those on the left still misunderstand and dismiss all too often. We have genuinely serious issues with both Bush and Palin as regards government and the US Constitution, but we should take time to understand the power of the religious narratives they enact.

Hekate


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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:32 AM
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20. Unfortunately, true
To pro-lifers, most of whom are religous zealots, this will be pleasing to hear.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:03 AM
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21. “She’s showing that you can choose life and still be successful,” said Susan Weber
wow just wow.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:52 AM
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22. "Jesus Was Tempted"

Yer point?

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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:53 AM
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23. She also mentioned that "no one would know" ...
... that she had an abortion since she was attending a conference away from Alaska. Sounds like the decision to have the child was a political calculation. Trig was just a prop to her.
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