See How the RW Is Foaming at the Mouth Against Clark re: Abortion

[DoveTurnedHawk]

Wesley Clark Backs Abortion Until Birth, Won't Pick Pro-Life Judges

In an interview with the Manchester Union Leader newspaper on Tuesday, Wesley Clark finally divulged his extreme pro-abortion views. Clark said he would never appoint pro-life judges and that he supported keeping abortion legal until the day of birth.

Clark told the New Hampshire newspaper that he would never appoint a pro-life judge to any federal court because the appointee wouldn't be able to follow the precedent of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion on demand.

Clark flashed his extreme pro-abortion credentials by saying that, "until the moment of birth, the government has no right to influence a mother's decision on whether to have an abortion," the paper reported.

"Life begins with the mother's decision," Clark said.

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http://www.lifenews.com/nat268.html

I absolutely love how the RW "Life News" is so frenzied against Clark. It shows how scared the RW is of him.

It's all music to my ears, General. :-)

DTH

[adamrsilva]

1. That might actually be *too* pro-choice for the general public

Most American are pro-choice, but many of them favor the cut-off point at the third trimester, or the "point of viability."

[DoveTurnedHawk]

2. LOL

So much for "fighting for Democratic values," eh Adam?

General Clark is a man of principle, not expedient views that change based on the wind.

DTH

[adamrsilva]

4. I wasn't questioning anyone's values

But most of the public supported the partial-birth abortion ban. However uninformed, that kind of abortion is becoming undefensible in a lot of people's eyes.

[JohnKleeb]

8. You support Dean right?

I am willing to put my money that he believes this too. After all, this is not a bad thing indeed. Most of the public according to polls supported the war, that dont make it right. After all, I read a profile of your guy and testimonals, saying that he doesnt let the polls guide his decisions. I wish my candiate had a more pro choice background, its a shame but I forgive him. Now here are my views on abortion, keep it legal and safe.

[bearfartinthewoods]

10. 26% support always legal

http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm

this is a primary position...don't worry, he'll start talkin to God like dean has and that will change in time for the GE.

[maddezmom]

3. Go Wes!

love that he's not afraid of pissing off a bunch of rightwingers. :)

[lovedems]

5. Life begins with the mothers decision

I LOVE IT!!!! He has just re-empowered many women with those 5 little words. That is great. Thanks Wes!

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

6. It isn't just abortion

This is from CNN.com (forgot the link)

"If Karl Rove is watching today, Karl, I want you to hear me loud and clear: I am going to provide tax cuts to ease the burdens for 31 million American families -- and lift hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty -- by raising the taxes on 0.1 percent of families -- those who make more than $1,000,000 a year. You don't have to read my lips, I'm saying it," Clark said.

To paraphrase what was once said about U.S. Grant, "General Clark don't scare worth a damn!"

[bowens43]

12. Clark will need the help of Congress to do that

and with this tone and a Republican congress it isn't bloody likely. Clark is apparently doing everything he can to piss off those he will need the most if he expects to do any of the things he has promised.He speaks like a pissed off general, like a drunken cowboy. He really should try to get some understanding of how our political system works. Clark can NOT do any of these things without congress.

[bearfartinthewoods]

23. he understands that all he has to do it talk tuff

and the lefties will drool. it doesn't matter if he means it or if he has a snowflake's chance in hell of delivering on this stuff.

they just want to hear him say it and the hell with what that means in the general election.

four more years

[Screaming Lord Byron]

7. You can't accuse Wes of sitting on the fence on this one.

Well done, General.

[Buffler]

9. Clark lost me

Clark flashed his extreme pro-abortion credentials by saying that, "until the moment of birth, the government has no right to influence a mother's decision on whether to have an abortion," the paper reported.

There is no way I could ever support a candidate with this position.

Woman is in labor, the head is crowning and Clark supports her having the ability to tell the doctor "I changed my mind, abort it please". That is an indefensible position and one that I could never support.

[adamrsilva]

11. I think that's what many will feel

as I was saying.

[Toucano]

13. Edit

Original post edited. Investigation under way. Sorry.

[Buffler]

14. If the quote

is made up from whole cloth I will retract my statement. What about you if the quote is accurate?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

16. First, If the Head Is Crowning, That's Effectively Birth

Second, no doctor would abort at that point, particularly based on the words of a patient who is probably in great pain and heavily medicated to boot. Clark's point is that the GOVERNMENT should not decide.

Third, it's probably just a metaphor, but hey, if you can't support Clark because of this, I'm sorry to hear it but I understand. You can't please everyone all of the time.

DTH

[Buffler]

20. Not really

First, If the Head Is Crowning, That's Effectively Birth

Birth is often defined in legal terms as "complete seperation".

[Renew Deal]

24. Clark never said that.

Read here:

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=31260

[Renew Deal]

15. We better got some direct quotes.

I don't trust "life news."

[Toucano]

17. Here's the original

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=31260

[Renew Deal]

19. It's not even the same article.

It sounds like Clark got soundbited. I wonder what the context is.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

21. So It's Not a Direct Quote From Clark at All

It's a paraphrase of a general position by the newspaper.

DTH

[Toucano]

22. Further twisted by lifenews

into "until the day of birth". He didn't said that.

[bicentennial_baby]

18. Edited

The actual Clark quote:

"Regarding his own views on abortion, Clark said, “I’m not going to get into a discussion of when life begins. I’m in favor of choice, period. Pure and simple.

“I don’t think you should get the law involved in abortion,” he said. “It’s between a woman, her doctor, her faith and her family and her conscience. You don’t put the law in there.”

big difference from the above article.