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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:29 PM
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I am no kidnapping expert but.......
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 10:29 PM by KansasVoter
If we keep paying these pirates millions of dollars it seems like to me that there is no reason for they to stop doing it.

I understand you need to protect the hostages as much as possible but these pirates have made millions doing this and have had very few people caught or killed.

Seems like someone needs to make an example of these people at some point.


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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:34 PM
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1. My suggestion ...
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:42 PM
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2. We have the capabilities but will they use their Brains
They are under the direction of some "War-Lord" on the shore as determined by monitoring and tracing the cell phone calls the pirates are making.

But as for the other Hi-jacked ships being used to rescue the stranded pirates - use fighters to disable them by shooting the rudder

Then there are more pirates stranded out in the ocean and surrounded by our military
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:05 PM
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3. It isn't cost effective to hijack an oil tanker anymore.
The owners would simply wait until the price of oil stabalized. Same with other comodities. So I think these pirates are going to become more brazen and hijack cruise ships.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:27 PM
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4. 4 pirates
4 Snipers I don't see the problem.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:44 PM
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7. covered boat.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:50 AM
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10. Well then
Never mind.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:33 PM
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5. Third world economies breed this kind of stuff.
Somalia's government has collapsed.

Desperation + Lawlessness = Yarrr!!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 09:15 AM
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13. Deregulated Capitalism at work. n/t
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:33 PM
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6. What everyone is either forgetting or doesn't give a damn about is
that these pirates to the caveman age where the only way to survive is to prey on everything in sight. But being an African country, well who cares. These pirates didn't suddenly materialize out of a vacuum. The last time the world even paid attention was when Clinton took office and chose to make a point of going after a warlord who was never caught. Instead we got our pride handed to us so we just left to save face. That was 1992 and the country was already in shambles. That was seventeen years ago, and things have only gotten worse. Piracy may be bad, but maybe it wouldn't be happening if the country weren't in the hands of thugs who have more power than anyone else.

It's a miserable rotten tragedy that the thugs calling the shots there are the lowest of opportunistic humanity.
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enuegii Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:54 PM
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8. Apparently, the French tried with mixed results...
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 11:56 PM by enuegii
one hostage killed, four rescued by French military personnel Friday from the yacht http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2009/04/10/un-francais-tue-quatre-autres-sains-et-saufs-apres-la-liberation-d-un-yacht-en-somalie_1179416_3212.html">Tanit seized last week in the Gulf of Aden. (Link is to article in Le Monde; French text)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:57 PM
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9. Well, at least the Wall Street Banksters didn't take any of us hostage
If we keep paying these pirates millions of dollars it seems like to me that there is no reason for they to stop doing it.

Yeah, really.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 04:26 AM
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11. The cost of thriling heroics is higher than the ransom costs
Yes we could deter piracy by sending the US Navy to rescue hostages every time they are taken. But the more you do these rescues, the more high stakes situations you have and the more chance that somebody will die. And once there's a dead hostage or a dead SEAL I don't think there will be the will for more rescue operations which means we're back where we started.

Ransoms are the cost of doing business. They are paid by the shipping companies, not by the government. If they weren't prepared to pay the ransoms then they wouldn't send ships anywhere near Somalia.

This isn't a national security issue and thus there is no reason to do anything that might get people killed.
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 04:58 AM
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12. And we should start the minute the British are made to pay for their deeds in the same waters.
Oh wait...
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