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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:13 PM
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"Liberal" media's question of the day: "How much political capital is AIG costing Obama?"
They just keep on asking how much AIG is hurting him, how it will affect his ability to get things done, and how this will affect his "already slipping support." :eyes: But every time the question is asked, to everyone from Chuck Grassley to Chuck Todd, they say they DON'T think it's costing him any capital. Grassley even said he thinks it's giving Obama MORE capital because of the stance he's taking on it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:14 PM
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1. Not much. It's a blip. But it's the FIRST time he's said "No, we can't." It doesn't go down easy.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:19 PM
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3. What did he say, "No, we can't" about? He said he's going to do all he CAN to get that money back.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:22 PM
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8. Yes, he has, but that's not the message Joe and Mary Shit are getting right now. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:25 PM
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11. But YOU said this is the first time he said, "No, we can't." n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:36 PM
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17. That was the Admin's first reaction to the bonuses.
He's turned that around since.

But first impressions are the important ones. You're dealing with facts. People base opinions on first impressions.

I had 8 years in political polling.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:42 PM
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18. So you ARE speaking for youself...
and what YOU preceive the American people are thinking.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:44 PM
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19. Oh, just fuck off. Please. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:45 PM
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21. You contradict yourself and then have the nerve to say that to me?
:eyes:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:47 PM
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23. I'm trying to discuss with you the nuances...
of the initial message, how it got twisted around, commended the Prez for taking the initiative of turning that impression around and saying the whole thing is not significant.



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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:55 PM
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24. I appreciate what you're trying to discuss. All I did was point out that the way
you worded it in your first post did not reflect that. It seemed to reflect your own opinion. Now f**k off.

j/k
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:38 PM
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46. ha!
:applause:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 05:16 PM
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48. ...
I'm glad you appreciated that. :D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:18 PM
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2. Cha's answer to corporatemediawhoredom..
"Fuck off, get a grip, and come back when you can do your job."
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:19 PM
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4. Good answer...
and I doubt they'd be back if they took your advice.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:19 PM
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5. It's all a set up to attempt to bring down the Obama administration.
Those who don't see this ain't looking!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:21 PM
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6. I see it...
I just don't like it. I'll do all I can to call attention to it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:23 PM
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9. I called it this Past Sunday.
I guess I have a devious mind...almost as devious as Corporate CEO running our news Companies.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:26 PM
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12. No you don't...
you have a SMART mind. And I saw the same thing. It's so shameful what they're doing to try to bring him down.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:29 PM
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14. And you're
a Gem We need to know what's going on and let the corporatemedia know what we think en masse. All we can do is fight them every single day and someday they will render themselves toothless and obsolete.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:34 PM
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16. Thanks...
to you and Frenchie for posting that list. It's up to us to try to change the way these people do business. :hi:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:22 PM
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7. "Already slipping support?" A recent CBS poll says his support is holding steady, and...
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 01:23 PM by ClassWarrior
...the percentage of people who think the country is moving in the right direction is rising.

NGU.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:24 PM
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10. That's why our media is working overtime on fermenting outrage.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:28 PM
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13. The M$M are shameless whores for the power elite - asking now about Pelosi's plane and attempting
to make it tie in with the AIG bonuses ... what shameless assholes. :puke:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:30 PM
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15. I see CNN is showing today's press briefing and their headline read, "AIG? ARRRRGGGH!"
:eyes:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:44 PM
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20. Its utter crap, the media's agenda is so transparent
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:46 PM
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22. I know. It's sickening.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:55 PM
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25. Not to all....it isn't.
That's the saddest part.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:56 PM
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26. True, to us it is. Other people are easily manipulated.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 01:58 PM
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27. Fact is- if it keeps going on like this it's going to end up cost Obama A LOT
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 01:59 PM by depakid
and well it should.

Going along to get along with the Wall Street/Clinton center right crowd- who got everyone into this mess right alongside corrupt Republicans is NOT what most Obama supporters wanted or voted for.

The fact that it served him well for many years is at the present time irrelevant.

Barck Obama is our president now- and we as citizens deserve better- more effective policies than what Larry Summers and his sidekick Tim Gaithner are serving up.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:00 PM
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28. Who it will cost is not so much Obama.....
it is Obama's agenda for us....which we did vote for.

You may be smug now, but you might be more sad than anything else later on.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:08 PM
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29. Great point!
Especially for that poster to think about.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:08 PM
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30. It'll be transferred to Obama alright
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 02:09 PM by depakid
I'm sorry that you're too emotionally involved to foresee that.

The only questions (assuming this keeps going on and on) are when and how fast.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:22 PM
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33. It will be transferred to Obama because of Geithner
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:41 PM
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39. It's a Democratic administration- with a cool and ethical President- so that's where the buck stops
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 02:42 PM by depakid
We're not talking about pissy pants here. Barack Obama from what I can tell is a good man but more importantly from the standpoint of analysis- a nobel figure held in high esteem throughout the world.

Things that wouldn't stick to pissy pants will eventually stick to a man like Obama if they're left to fester long enough.

It's a symbolism deal as much as anything.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:34 PM
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42. True - President Obama is being poorly served.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:17 PM
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31. WaPo says it has "depleted" his capital
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29731643 /

AIGs turmoil depletes Obamas political capital
Anger over bonuses paid to AIG execs blows back on president, initiatives

President Obama's apparent inability to block executive bonuses at insurance giant AIG has dealt a sharp blow to his young administration and is threatening to derail both public and congressional support for his ambitious political agenda.

Politicians in both parties flocked to express outrage over $165 million in bonuses paid out to executives at the company, demanding answers from the president and swamping yesterday's rollout of his efforts to spark lending to small businesses.


Evidently Obama needs to get back in his time machine to April 2008, and then tell AIG not to be stupid and make promises about bonuses they can't keep.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:20 PM
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32. Jeez...
I think they're hoping for a self-fulfilling prophecy with that bull. I wonder why REPUB. Chuck Grassley, when asked, said he thinks it's giving Obama MORE capital! :shrug:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. This is all a fucking set up to make this administration pay for the mistakes
of the last one and to give the Pubs something to run on in 2010.

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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:34 PM
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38. and I think Geithner is part of the toxic set up (In w/ the Wallstreet money machine who
support the GOP and fund every campaign in DC
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:23 PM
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34. I just hope that he's taking an "honest" stance
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:30 PM
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36. Wake Up. Obama has lost no capital--He is on the right side of
the issue.

The Pundits look bad. They always jump to wrong conclusion.
They have helped the most in putting our country in the ditch
just by reciting the GOP talking points. Parrots.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. I wish the MEDIA would wake up and start reporting the news instead of trying to
CREATE news just to try to make Obama look bad.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:07 PM
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40. Some short-term damage, but Obama's a socialist at the end of the day
Remember?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:33 PM
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41. lol, isn't that funny? I would LOVE to know my 'pub friend's thoughts on the "liberal" media is...
.... treating the President now.

He doesn't say much on the matter .... I suspect it's because he's suddenly realizing the press is going to take jabs no matter WHOM is in office.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. I'm surprised your 'pub friend recognizes that!
:toast: to your 'pub friend for at least seeing that!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. Oh, I dont know that he is, I'm speculating...
.... and if you're gonna toast with me today, lets do the right color! lol

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. Oh, ok...
And cheers to you in green then! Nice pic! :D
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:15 PM
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45. If They Criticize Him Enough
maybe he'll just go away.

Honestly what do they want to achieve here? Our country is in the toilet and this is the best they can come up with.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. Yup...
Now MSNBC is going to discuss how Obama's capital has been DEPLETED! :eyes:
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:41 PM
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50. It may be losing Geithner his capital, but it's not hurting Obama in
my book.

The president should be able to expect the Treasury sec to do his job and if he can't, then Geithner needs to go. But Obama 's doing as good a job as he can.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 07:00 PM
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51. Well, that doesn't stop the media from doing their best to TRY to hurt Obama.
Pat Buchanan was on MSNBC all day talking about how "this really hurts Obama."
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:02 PM
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52. Well
Pat is just a big old biggoted bag of wind whose face looks like it's smelled a few to many of his farts.

But I digress. The agenda of the media is plain to see. Tell me,(not you specifically but anyone), how much time did the "liberal" MSM spend on slamming Republicans for admitting their only goal is to bring Pelosi and the Democrats down and just to obstruct at every turn?

My hope is that the American people woke up to the games in 2006 and again in 2008 and that they continue to be awake and alert to the games being played by the Republicans and the media.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:30 PM
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54. Hey, Balto!
I know. But he was just one of many who said the same thing today.

They spent NO time on that-not even Keith or Rachel.

If you look at the polls, your hope seems to have been realized. The Repubs. are more unpopular now than ever! :hi:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:07 PM
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53. I hate the MSM....that's all I can say. n/t
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:54 PM
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55. How absurd. I doubt most Americans pay much attention to this.
It wasn't a good issue, but most Americans will not be outraged by tens of millions when Congress is talking about trillions.
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