Originally they booted off the NeoNazi TechDude and its accomplice TexasDarlin. It seems the birfers are invading again. Some examples of the bigots bigoting.
Comment by Obamastolemyboyfriend | 2009-03-05 15:50:30
I am so sick of all of this. I was sick of Obama long before inauguration day. When I contact my representatives, they just spew their message of hopey changey crap coming and it’s all good. We have got to drag the a-holes out by their shirt colars and we cannot wait until 2010!
I hope someone can prove Obama is ineligible to hold the office and make anything he signs null and void!
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Comment by inconsiderable wretch | 2009-03-05 16:28:24
Yes, does anyone know the status of the various pending lawsuits dealing with Obama’s constitutional eligibility?
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Comment by Publius | 2009-03-05 17:25:23
I do. There was a recent motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction due to a failure on the part of the plaintiffs to establish standing, which is a lawyer’s way of saying these cases are incredibly, incredibly stupid moon-landing-was-faked horsesh*t.
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Comment by heather | 2009-03-05 19:14:05
I get what you’re saying, but I tend to go in a circle on this one. Are we really certifying the President’s right to hold office based on a scanned copy that folks from the Daily Kos swear is real?
And the law, (as I have heard it) in Hawaii at the time allowed for foregin births to be registered and a birth certificate issued by the State.
I kind of arrive at the place where I think that Obama would save a whole lot of time if he would just show it. Maybe this is his way of stimulating jobs in the legal sector? I’ll even give him the money for the copy.
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Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-03-05 19:26:06
i don’t doubt his place of birth, but i am stunned beyond belief/appalled really that he won’t show it, and that he is not required to show it! Why the hell not!!
We have to show all kinds of documents for all kinds of jobs. Considering the responsibilty of the POTUS, I would think that kind of info crucial, AND considering he works for the PEOPLE of the US, we should have a right to see it.
Why he refuses is beyond me, and makes it all the more weird, AND keeps this controversy alive.
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Comment by Sonic Ninja Kitty | 2009-03-05 20:16:44
It is interesting that NQ has not entered into this debate as this is a valid issue.
Why do you not doubt his place of birth? He has not shown the birth certificate which names the hospital and doctor. He has shown a certificate of live birth. I won’t go into the differences here and the discussion about the COLB’s validity as that could go on several paragraphs and is available elsewhere.
And why does he prefer to spend over $800,000 (as of Dec–probably more now) to avoid bringing a vault copy of the birth certificate to light (costing $10 to $20–maybe? Heck, Hawaii would probably dig it out for free at this point!). There is no acceptable answer to this question–it’s not money and the election is over. He is the CIC, sending soldiers into harms way and signing bills into laws for the rest of us–we deserve to know if he is a citizen, and if he is natural born–period.
ALL of the dismissals are on ’standing’ or ‘jurisdiction’–NONE of the dismissals are based on the merits of the case. None. Nada–not one.
Lastly, there are some who argue place of birth is totally irrelevant. A ‘natural born citizen’ has parents who are citizens at the time of his/her birth. (This is meant to insure allegiance to only our country.) Fact: Obama did not. No amount of hope changes that.
There is no ‘conspiracy’. There is the “diffusion of responsibility”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibilit... and the “bystander effect”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect at play here. (And the fact that David Axelrod makes Carl Rove look like a total amateur.) Maligning Dr. Taliz, Helen Ka, does not address the merits of the questions posed.
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Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-03-05 20:26:47
I just don’t know, really. But i don’t know how far back they would have to go to cover up if he wasn’t born in hawaii. I think it has more to do with his name, but who knows.
The more it goes on, and the longer he refuses to show it, the more i think there is something funky going on.
but, trust me, i have read all about it, and watch all the lawsuits, and have read all there is to read.
i think there is something he doesn’t want people to see…whether it is his place of birth, or what, I don’t know.
I also thought it could be about his parents not being married.
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Comment by Sonic Ninja Kitty | 2009-03-05 20:48:38
What is it he doesn’t want us to see? He’s in office now. We’ve overlooked so much (drugs, corruption, itchy face)–anything that doesn’t affect his eligibility (like a different name) would be small in comparison.
The rights of soldiers who lay their lives on the line daily trump Obama’s right to modesty on this issue.
To me it is so black and white (no double entendre intended). We are a nation of laws and if we start picking and choosing which ones we follow…this is unacceptable.
This stinks to high heaven–we can’t just stand around pretending not to notice.
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Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-03-05 20:53:15
and his Kos COLB doesn’t prove anything…
http://sarainitaly.multiply.com/photos/album/25/Birth_C... Of course it is not more white sheets that is needed fro this crazy bunch of NeoNazis, it is the men in white coats and given that the bigot who thinks Obama stole her boyfriend made actual death threats against the President, I wonder why that scum has not been arrested yet.
All the birfers are are stupid bigots who shouild just be laughed at. Let them waste their money on crap.