Chimp to Bush and Why is WASN'T Bad Then

[kevinds13]

Since some threads have failed to see the common sense difference between calling Former President Bush a chimp and the NY Post cartoon implying Obama as a chimp, here it is:

Bush as a chimp is an insult on his intelligence.
Obama as a chimp is an insult on his race.

One you can change, the other you're born with.




Duh.

[MoonRiver]

1. Well, bush can't change his intelligence.

But it wasn't his Low Average to lower range of Average (in my opinion) intelligence that was the problem, at least not the MAJOR problem. It was his sociopathic and narcissistic personality disorders, and his desire for power at the expense of the entire world.

[Berry Cool]

2. I always thought comparing Bush's intelligence to that of a chimp

was an insult to the poor chimp.

[Mz Pip]

3. I don't recall any Bush/Chimp comparisons

including a chimp on the ground with two bullet holes in him.

It's not just racist.

[RamboLiberal]

4. Exactly - I didn't see Bush being characterized as a Chimp

and a dead one at that by MSM editorial cartoonists. Imagine the uproar if he was! We have a liberal editorial cartoonist Rob Rogers in Pittsburgh and a good one at that. I've seen him ripped to shreds by conservative readers for cartoons that they hated. And the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has rejected some of his cartoons.

Just on internet boards and blogs like DU did I see Bush compared to a chimp.

Rob Rogers did this "good vs. evil" cartoon less than three weeks after 9/11 -- and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette would not publish it during that hyperpatriotic time. "Emotions and feelings were too raw," Rogers says. "They probably would have run it six months later."

"America was still mourning heavily," say Post-Gazette Op-Ed Editor John Allison and Deputy Editorial Page Editor Reg Henry in an e-mail. "The cartoon was like standing up at a funeral and delivering a eulogy that pointed out that the deceased was a real jerk." They add that the cartoon "seems mild" today but that they continue to think it's wrong.

Then-Editorial Page Editor Michael McGough says "some of Rob's cartoons immediately after 9/11 flirted with suggesting a moral equivalence between Osama and the U.S. This one certainly is open to that charge."

And John Craig, editor of the paper at the time, says one possible reason for the cartoon's rejection was that it was "crude in the extreme in its historical analysis."

Rogers, who's distributed by United Media, says: "Normally, if something is killed, I accept it and move on." But in this case, Rogers felt strongly enough to rewrite the Sept. 29, 2001, cartoon's dialogue in a way that commented on the rejection of his original premise. The new words read: "I've got news for terrorists. I won't be afraid to criticize my country's policies at home and abroad. I won't be afraid to scrutinize the president and other elected officials, even if it means being branded unpatriotic. Because the minute we give up our right to free speech ... they win." The Post-Gazette published that version on Oct. 2, 2001.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0198-42575/Hot-Toons-Rejected.html

[Mz Pip]

7. We had one in SF like that

Here's one of Tom Meyer's from 12/2001
It seems quite timely nearly 8 years later.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/12/10/EDMEYER.DTL&hw=Meyer+tom+meyer&sn=007&sc=884

The cut and paste doesn't seem to work so you'll have to click on the link.

[gulliver]

5. Bush physically resembles some kind of monkey.

That's what I always thought anyway. His thin lips are always poking out like he is about to hoot for a banana.

True, Bush's eyes scream "stupid." But that actually differentiates him from apes and monkeys. They always seem engaged with what they are doing. They seem emotionally whole. Their eyes seem warm and open. Bush's eyes are the windows to a soul that is not just small but has a net negative magnitude.

[slackmaster]

9. All humans do - Check out this rendering of Bush by a cartoonist

I'll give you three guesses who created this image, and the first two don't count:

[Numba6]

6. 8 years doesn't counter 300 years of racist dehumanizing of blacks, & thats despite

No matter how many racists want it to

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8213555&mesg_id=8214125

[Starry Messenger]

10. This is the correct answer.

[slackmaster]

8. I've been trying for three days and still don't see the chimp in the NYP cartoon as portraying Obama

It doesn't pass the basic logic test for me.

Obama didn't WRITE the stimulus package. The cartoon is critical of the package and those who actually wrote it, not the fact that it exists at all (which is Obama's doing).

I feel like Winston Smith in 1984 struggling to see something that isn't there.