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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:03 AM
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Stimulus Vote Not Till Tuesday

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Stimulus Vote Not Till Tuesday


Saturday, February 7th, 2009

The Senate will bring a version of the economic recovery bill to a vote Tuesday afternoon, where it's expected to pass.

Comes after senators reach a $780 billion bipartisan plan late Friday.


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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:05 AM
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1. I wish they could get this done sooner. Alot can happen in 4 days.
Fingers x'd.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:15 AM
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2. Why Not Monday? Is There a Discussion on Baseball Monday?
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:18 AM
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3. Maybe Sen. Kennedy won`t be able to vote on Monday so they delayed it to Tuesday instead.
But that`s just a guess.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:31 AM
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4. I was thinking exactly the same thing.
I may take a few days to coordinate Teddy's return.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:42 AM
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5. Actually there could be another reason too: maybe the Dems are waiting...
for the MN Supreme Court to decide whether Franken should be seated or not.

If I remember correctly, it might be in the coming days.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:45 AM
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6. That would really make it a slam dunk.
Hope so.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:17 PM
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8. Good Point - I Just Want To Get It Done
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:54 AM
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7. Obama is speaking on Monday night
just a thought.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:23 PM
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9. However, once the home purchase and car purchase tax
breaks are added back in, the Senate version is expected to be passed at $827 billion.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:25 PM
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10. Waiting for this thing to pass is driving me nuts
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:34 PM
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11. Why not until Tuesday?
I thought they were going to reconvene at 10 AM tomorrow.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:36 PM
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12. Yeah, but the real vote is Monday night.
This is because of the peculiar ways of the Senate.

The vote on Monday will be the real vote, Tuesday's vote will mirror it. The Repubs might not filibuster, but they will raise a point of order against the bill that it violates the budget act. If the bill gets 60 or more votes, it clears this rules vote and the second vote should be a mirror of this vote.

Monday night at 5:30 is the real test.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:45 PM
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14. If Reid announced that time and date, don't hold your breath.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:56 PM
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15. It is the printed time for the vote
And a standard for Monday votes in general. This pattern follows the vote on Alito in Jan 2006. First was the vote for cloture which, sadly, passed that was held at 5:30 on Monday. Then the vote to confirm. Again, sadly.

The vote on Monday will take place. It is printed and confirmed. However, even with that and with the Tuesday vote, the outcome is not yet certain. The bill has to go to a reconciliation conference where the difference between the House and Senate bills are hammered out and the bill revised and resubmitted to each chamber for a vote. (By law, the House and Senate have to pass the identical bill in order for it to go to the President for his sig.)
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:25 AM
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18. Thanks. I didn't know about printing. The petition for cloture was done on Friday
and I thought rules allowed a Saturday/Sunday cloture vote. Reid had promised Thursday and Friday earlier which was the reason for the irritation in my post.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:50 PM
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25. I heard somewhere they are already started working on the compromise version.
and the final version is likely to be closer to the Senate version than the House version for obvious reasons.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:47 PM
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17. Kerry's rail bill
Is that the $25 billion amendment that got rejected?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:43 PM
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13. Reid does not have the votes for a successful cloture vote.
First he said Thursday, then he said Friday, then he said "the weekend". He is being played like a fiddle by Collins, Snowe and Specter. Watch them back out.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:41 PM
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16. No problem. Let the Republicans filibuster!
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:27 AM
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19. Collins, Snowe and Specter are on record to vote for the plan.
I doubt they will back out now.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:23 PM
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21. My reason for saying so is that he keeps saying he has the votes for a certain
date, (Thursday, Friday "weekend", now Tuesday) and has not delivered on the promise yet.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:26 PM
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22. Yeah, Reid does have a tendency to speak too soon.
But this time, the consensus is they have the votes unless something drastic happens between now and Tuesday.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:31 PM
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23. TayTay ( post above) said the vote is on record in print.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:34 PM
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24. So the cloture "vote" will be Monday night. I did not realize that.
Yes, that will be the real test.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:48 AM
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20. Great, more time for Reid and the Dems to give away more good stimulus portions of the bill
And replace them with more tax cuts for the wealthy.

This bill is becoming a disaster. We're going to wind up pissing more money we don't have on tax cuts that we don't need and that are ineffective, meanwhile the rest of us will sink under the economic waves.

All because the Dems either don't want to or don't know how to fight.
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