EPIC flame war going on at Politico: Obama vs Rush Limbaugh

[jzodda]

I must admit I have been having a lot of fun fighting with the wingnuts tonight over there. Its the best flame war thread I have read there in a long time. Come and join the fun!


"Are you with Obama or Rush?"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18194.html

[drm604]

1. The whole Obama vs Rush thing is idiotic.

Why is anybody comparing the two? A radio host vs POTUS? This is what Rush wants and the media is playing into it.

Now Rush is calling for a meeting with Obama. It's ridiculous. Who'd Obama meet with after that, Howard Stern? :crazy:

[jzodda]

5. Politico is just trying to garner attention as always

Their headlines are always catchy and disingenuous in many instances. It does seem that Rush is becoming the de facto head of the Repukers, which is great for our side. To be honest I didn't read the article I just jumped into the comments and have joined the skirmishing with the loonies. Been having fun :)

[AllentownJake]

16. Every great President had an enemy

Rush as an enemy fits perfectly. A RW conservative guy who got divorced 3 times and should be in jail for prescription drug fraud vs. A moral married man with two beautiful kids.

[drm604]

22. I'm trying to think of Presidential "enemies" from the past and no one comes to mind.

Do you have some examples?

Setting him up as an enemy makes him seem more important than he is, almost like he's equivalent to the POTUS somehow. It's elevating him to the same level when in fact he's nothing but a blow hard echoing right wing talking points.

The whole thing looks to me like an engineered attempt to cause the appearance of a battle between two equivalent foes. The media keeps going on about it, and there appears to be an online astroturf campaign to get people to take sides. Notice however that, aside from one offhand remark by Obama, all of the rhetoric seems to be coming from one side.

Don't fall for this people. They want us to take sides. They want to make this a appear to be a battle between two equivalent political foes when, in reality, Limbaugh doesn't even belong on the battlefield.

[AllentownJake]

30. Newt, Father Phleger, etc

[drm604]

33. Newt and Father Phleger.

I assume by "Newt" you mean Newt Gingrich vs Bill Clinton. I don't recall any high profile battle between the two where people were asked to take sides, but I wasn't paying as much attention to politics at that time so I may have just missed it. In any case Newt was a politician and not a talk show host, so it makes more sense than Obama vs Limbaugh.

I never heard of Phleger until you just now mentioned him and I looked him up. Phleger is a foil to Obama so he's not an example of an enemy of other great presidents. In any case, I'd never heard of him before and I've been politically aware the last few years so he's apparently not too high profile an enemy.

It seemed to me that you were implying that having a high profile enemy can add to a President's greatness. I just can't see that as being a reliable rule. Having a blowhard like limbaugh issuing challenges adds nothing to Obama and, in my opinion, Obama should not respond to him and should mention him as little as possible if at all.

[AllentownJake]

34. oops wrong Father...the guy who FDR went after in the 30s

talk radio of the time..anti-sementic anti-new deal.

[DFLforever]

35. Father Coughlin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Coughlin

[creeksneakers2]

40. I'd love to have that battle

Limbaugh and the vast right wing conspiracy would lose. For decades they've gotten away with keeping power by spreading lies and hatred. They are still a major threat.

If most people knew what actually went on in the right wing media they'd be offended. So the GOP elected people stand clear of all the muck while the guys like Limbaugh bring great benefits to the GOP. Its time we end this arrangement.

Let the public know what Limbaugh is up to. Make the GOP politicians either support or oppose Limbaugh. Those who support should be tagged with all of Limbaugh's outrages. Those who oppose Limbaugh will be attacked by Limbaugh and will enrage the fanatical base. Either way they lose.

If politicians all reject Limbaugh, he'll look powerless. He'll lose his appeal.

Ignoring the right wing media was always a big mistake. Its time to take them down.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Howard Stern Is Genuinely Funny

~

[drm604]

24. In all respect

that's completely irrelevant to my argument. My point was that Limbaugh is simply a media personality who doesn't deserve to be elevated to some sort of equivalent political foe to Obama.

[Life Long Dem]

39. And don't raise concerns leading up to invading Iraq either.

And don't raise concerns over McCain and his war hero veteran image. And now in effect, don't raise concerns over stimulating job creation.

[Kalyke]

23. Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh and I all share the same birthday.

Jan. 12.


It's also Kirstie Alley and Oliver Platt's birthday.

I have nothing else to add. LOL!

[firedupdem]

2. Rush is a piece of shit. He is really feeling important and

empowered now. Fuck him.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. Rush's bubble will burst soon

[HooptieWagon]

10. Propping up Limpballz as defacto Repuke leader may not be a bad thing.

That would keep anybody remotely coherant and competent from claiming the role (almost typed "assuming the position" - LOL!).

[AllentownJake]

17. Bingo

[ginnyinWI]

25. I agree!

Rush takes the bait because he can't resist. Obama wrestles him to the ground with one finger. Rush is a pea-brained loud-mouthed college drop-out whose main talent is gathering the outcasts of society into a bunch of "ditto-heads" with his supposed "talent on loan from God".

[HooptieWagon]

11. delete

edit - dupe post

[tridim]

12. But he's not important or empowered at all

That's why it's so funny.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. Rush should be ignored

[drm604]

7. Exactly.

They're trying to create the appearance of some sort of battle between Limbaugh and Obama. It's ludicrous. There is no battle. The only one battling is Limbaugh.

This has nothing to do with the important business of governing the nation.

[Common Sense Party]

13. This has everything to do with ratings and advertising revenues.

That's all it's ever about for Limbaugh.

Most Repubs I know grew tired of his schtick long ago.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. maybe the company that Limpbaugh works for may go bankrupt!

then he would be out on the streets

[AllentownJake]

18. Yes but the few that haven't

are rabid and will call and kick and scream at Rush's beckon command at the GOP...Obama has created quite a problem for them.

[AtomicKitten]

6. What's scary is that question should be a no-brainer.

:scared:

[drm604]

9. What's scary is that the question is even asked.

"Who're you with, Britney or Obama?" :crazy:

[peacebaby3]

8. You should let Politico know that it is the DemocratIC Party, not the Democrat Party.

I looked at the people posting and beside many, it said "Party: Democrat"

Have fun arguing with the idiots over there.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Fuck Politico!

[Bluenorthwest]

19. I'm trying to think of any form of competition

in which Rush would prevail over President Obama. Of any kind. Scrabble, hopscotch, policy debate, shot put. Obama comes out on top. Wresting, ala Harggard vs Haggard's Gay Side, Obama again looks like the winnner.
Rush might win a drinking game vs Obama. Practice does make perfect.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

21. Politico is one step above Drudge and Jonathan Martin is leading death spiral into irrelevancy

[Occam Bandage]

29. That's one hell of a successful death spiral they've got going.

If our economy were in such a death spiral we'd all be wealthy.

[annabanana]

26. Politico was launched by corpomedia in order to have a "voice" on the 'net.

When it encourages this kind of crap, it is merely reverting to type. The whole place is a sham and a waste of bandwidth.

[Phx_Dem]

27. Here's the audio of the radio spot. Brilliant!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/29/obama-allies-use-limbaugh_n_162390.html

[Occam Bandage]

28. If you're "with Obama," you don't give a shit about Rush. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

31. Those two names don't even belong in the same sentence...

Limpballs is utterly out of his league.

[WinkyDink]

32. Obama is President. Why elevate Rush to his level as some sort of "competition"?

[HooptieWagon]

37. So it keeps anyone competent from assuming repuke leadership role.

[WinkyDink]

41. "Anyone competent" and "Republican" are incompatible terms.

[ima_sinnic]

36. that's like asking, are you soaring with an eagle, or scratching with a turkey? (nt)

[snowbear]

38. It's no longer Obama v. Limpballs.. It's now Ali Velshi (CNN) v. Limpballs!!

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Story: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/30/campbell.brown.limbaugh/


p.s. (edit to add): kudos to Campbell Brown for adding ..."In these times, we don't need "useless noise" from Limbaugh"