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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:08 PM
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Cornyn wants Holder promise not to seek torture prosecutions of Bush-era officials.
per Keith


And is delaying Holder's floor vote for a week.

Will Obama/Holder give in to this tactic?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:09 PM
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1. Wow, the rats are
:scared: :scared:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:09 PM
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2. If they do I will be extremely upset. That's blackmail.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:16 PM
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48. My first reaction, also. But as long as it's not a signed document
or contract, to that effect, couldn't Holder still do it?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:09 PM
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3. Sounds like the future AG needs to investigate a certain senator from Texass...
...Is being stupid a crime?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:53 PM
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23. No doubt there's plenty to be found about Cornyn
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:34 AM
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44. he needs to be locked up for this:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:10 PM
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4. "What are laws to Sons of God??"
---Fred Nietzsche.


Rule of law, what rule of law???? :banghead:

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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:13 PM
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5. aaaaand here we go
:eyes: @ Cornyn
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:14 PM
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6. So let's run someone against Cornyn
And get behind the Dem like we got behind Franken.

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:42 PM
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17. Our Houston mayor is going to run
But I think it will be for Hutchison's seat when she comes back to Texas to run for governor. Who we need is David Van Os; that is, of course, if your heart is set on real progressive values.

Bill White is so green. We all just love him, even most pukes. I wish he could stay mayor, but we've got term limits.

I think we are going to have one hell of a time here in 2010. Cornhole is vulnerable. It depends on how well the Texas Dem party can play this one. I have seen them often snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but we can hope this time.

I'll work my ass off for either Bill or David, and both if I'm lucky.


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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:00 AM
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38. Oh, please do!!!!
Rick Noriega held his own against Cornyn, but obviously, it's difficult here in Texas.

I think all Texas Democrats would welcome assistance in getting Cornyn kicked out!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:16 PM
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7. Cornyn has been protecting Bush from prosecution for over a decade.
Bush was accused of violating Texas law when he took funds for his presidential campaign while the Texas Legislature was in session. The law is to avoid the appearance of impropriety, but Bush of course had no such concerns, reportedly taking money from people who had legislation pending before the Lege. Cornyn, as AG, saw no reason to investigate. I think he was also part of the syndicate that hushed up the witnesses in the Funeralgate scandal, where Bush fired the entire Funeral Commission for investigating one of his donors, SCI.

So this is nothing new. If Cornyn had any integrity, Bush would have probably never left Texas, and we might still have a prosperous nation.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:51 PM
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22. Ah, but perhaps Mr. Cornyn would NOT be as prosperous. ;)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:57 PM
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24. You got it. nt
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:16 PM
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8. Better not. That would be a dereliction of duty.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:17 PM
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9. If Obama gives in, I will become a critic immediately - nt
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:19 PM
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10. Fuck Cornyn, he's an enemy combatant
He needs to be arrested and whisked off to a far away country or held on some tanker off the coast of Antartica for 25 or 30 years.
Let's give em a taste of their own medicine!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:22 PM
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12. what's this about enema complacents?
Oh, wait.... I may have misread your post. ;)
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:39 AM
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42. An "Enema" combatant, I'd say. nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:21 PM
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11. Blackmail in our Senate...another new low.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:26 PM
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13. don't pull a Harry Reid, Mr. Holder.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:27 PM
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14. telling. I sure hope not. We need Holder in this post, it appears, ASAP n/t
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:28 PM
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15. i don't think he can do that-
they broke international laws- or un charter stuff...i read this am the government has to start a case against them
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:32 PM
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16. So Cornyn wants Holder to violate his oath of office as a precondition
for senate approval?

"I Eric Holder, do solemnly swear that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to
the same; that I take this obligation freely without any mental
reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So
help me God. Oh wait, except for if someone tortured someone. Then I
will not faithfully discharge the duties of the office. How's that John?"

Wow, just wow.




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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:46 PM
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18. Why Corny? Cuz' your boys at Helliburton will be exposed as thugs.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:47 PM
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19. Uh Corny? As you republickers often reminded us, the AG serves at the pleasure of the President.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:48 PM
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20. Probably not the best place to attempt to make a stand against Obama
Republican arrogance and stupidity rarely fails to impress.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:43 AM
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27. agreed
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sammym3 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:50 PM
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21. He can promise not to seek it himself. But he is duty bound to
prosecute if the Pres or Congress brings suit.
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shintao Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:00 PM
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25. No Promises, no BS, Indict Bush INC.
The ethics committee should immediately look into this Croyn guy and fry his arse, and impeach him now!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:07 PM
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26. I want Cornyn to promise to resign in the next 1-2 months
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:07 AM
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28. Cornyn doesn't have enough power to get any promise like that one. (nt)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:32 AM
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29. "We support torture." - So-called 'Christian' Republicon Homelanders
"Torture was good enuf for Jesus Christ, and it's good enuf for other people we are skeered of."

- Republicon Homelanders
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:05 AM
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30. That is not a requirement for becoming attorney general
Typical republican, thinks he gets to wheel and deal over issues not in play.
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:52 AM
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31. Hey that easy...
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 08:55 AM by sfpcjock
"If President Obama asks me to prosecute torture, warrantless wiretapping of the press etc. I'll just say 'no'."

Problem solved!

Cornholio goes away.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:17 AM
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32. But that would be quid pro quid - If you won't prosecute THEN I will vote for you?!
Sounds highly illegal to me. Maybe Holder just had his first case handed to him.

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meli224 Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:27 AM
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33. that sounds disgusting.
I don't really know the rules but if he said no, would he be held to that? He probably will just dodge the question, since he doesn't have to answer that.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:51 AM
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34. Why should he? They don't have any power
we have the votes for confirmation
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:54 AM
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35. hey if Holder does not prosecute the UN could possibly.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 09:58 AM by alyce douglas
this is not staying under the rug by no means. Cornyn has been appointed A$$hole of the RNC party.

I hope Leahy has some spine to speak out to Cornyn and Specter.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:06 AM
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40. Can't give in to UN power play. Holder/Obama won't promise before investigations.
However much they don't want to look backward, go after higher ups by casting wide net for lower fish lawyering up, to get bigger fish-which would escape as executives doing what they thought was right to protect the country. That's a reality.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:56 AM
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36. I hope they do not give in. nt
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:58 AM
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37. Yes I'm sure Holder will promise not to prosecute...
That is a ridiculous question.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:05 AM
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39. Cornyn has no business trying to direct or divert the actions of the Justice Department! nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:26 AM
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41. It would be insane to give in.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:27 AM
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43. In case anyone would like to contact Senatscum Cornyn:

517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Main: 202-224-2934
Fax: 202-228-2856

email contact form:

http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Co...
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:36 AM
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45. Sen. Cornholio is the biggest Bushit Neo-con artist ever
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 11:42 AM by sfpcjock
He's the last line of defense for Bush and Texas. Thom Hartmann is talking about it now at 9:20 am in the first hour. Stream it live and get the podcast for free here from KTLK:

http://www.ktlk.com/cc-common/podcast.html .

After the NSA wired the press and presumably every US representative (see Olbermann Wed. night and again Thurs.) there was a staffer out of Orrin Hatch's office bugging Ted Kennedy's email. They knew in advance every line of questioning for Judge Fat Tony Elite-o confirmation hearings.

The corruption runs deep and they are running scared now about Holder. He'll still get in, so it's cool :toast:
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:41 AM
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46. They should all be thrown in Gitmo!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:14 PM
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47. My story would be that we aren't going to be doing any partisan witchhunts
but of course no one is above the law and turn it back on the Senators, by asking them if they support the rule of law and the principle that no one is above the Constitution.
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:23 PM
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49. nice admission there from Cornyn...
I thought they hadn't done anything wrong. Thanks for setting me straight, Senator.

No promises. Make them sweat every day for the rest of their worthless lives.
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