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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:32 PM
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President Obama, please lift the ban NOW
on photographing B*sh's victims for America to see.




I believe he will.

I hope he goes to Dover to pay respects to the next 'arrival', with CAMERAS in tow, which will reveal what a fucking BASTARD preceded him. America should see every god-damned planeload of victims from now on until this 'war' is done.


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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:35 PM
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1. I never understood this underhanded tactic?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:35 PM
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2. Good post -- Oh, yes, yes, yes --- !!!! Let's see the real destruction of this war ---
on BOTH sides . . . PLEASE!!!!


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:36 PM
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3. k&r. So many "little" things that have happened these last 8 yrs, so many to change back.
"little" is in quotes since most of them are not so little, but bit by bit, so much has been taken away.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:36 PM
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4. Clinton enacted that
So maybe he will consult with them first, about that and the "free speech" zones and a lot more than Clinton did.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:40 PM
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5. Clinton enacted the ban??
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:50 PM
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7. It's complicated.
Started in 91, it's a pentagon thing, apparently. Presidents would, it seem, be able to lift it, make it stricter, or leave it alone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/23/iraq/main6133...

"This policy of no photos has been in effect since 1991," said John Molino of the Defense Department. "It has been tested over time and it reflects what families tell us that they would like as far as treatment of shipment of remains."
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:54 PM
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9. Thanks for the info - I thought it was just Bush's way of hiding the evidence.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:57 PM
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11. Well, that, too...
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 04:58 PM by NYC_SKP
The point of the OP is still a good one, let's see the carnage.

Hopefully soon we won't have so many bodies to hide. :cry:

Every minute of every day an American soldier somewhere in the world is under threat, under fire, scared to death, bleeding, or dying.

Every moment of every day.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:57 PM
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12. Oops, Poppy did
I just knew it had been in place before George.

"The same day, however, the Pentagon ordered the Air Force not to release any additional photos in keeping with the policy, adopted under President George H.W. Bush during the first Gulf War, of prohibiting access to the return of the remains to Dover and Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany."


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/04/24/p...
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:51 PM
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8. thier were no dead in bosnia?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:00 PM
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14. Yep
One of those little known factoids.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:49 PM
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6. you do not honor the dead by hiding them!
that is what criminals do!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:55 PM
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10. K and R
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:59 PM
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13. You do realize this was implemented by the Pentagon during Clinton's term?
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 04:59 PM by proud2Blib
Bush did a lot of bad stuff but banning pictures of coffins wasn't his doing.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:06 PM
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15. Yes, but Clinton Admin did NOT enforce, B*sh Admin DID
http://www.exit.com/Archives/caskets /

Since the end of the Vietnam War, presidents have worried that their military actions would lose support once the public glimpsed the remains of U.S. soldiers arriving at air bases in flag-draped caskets.

To this problem, the Bush administration has found a simple solution: It has ended the public dissemination of such images by banning news coverage and photography of dead soldiers' homecomings on all military bases.

In March, on the eve of the Iraq war, a directive arrived from the Pentagon at U.S. military bases. "There will be no arrival ceremonies for, or media coverage of, deceased military personnel returning to or departing from Ramstein airbase or Dover base, to include interim stops," the Defense Department said, referring to the major ports for the returning remains.

A Pentagon spokeswoman said the military-wide policy actually dates from about November 2000 -- the last days of the Clinton administration -- but it apparently went unheeded and unenforced, as images of caskets returning from the Afghanistan war appeared on television broadcasts and in newspapers until early this year <2003>
. Though Dover Air Force Base, which has the military's largest mortuary, has had restrictions for 12 years, others "may not have been familiar with the policy," the spokeswoman said. This year, "we've really tried to enforce it."


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:19 PM
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16. Clinton could have abolished it
Just sayin
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