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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:29 PM
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"John McCain goes to bat for Hillary"
(yall starting to get why this whole olive branch extention actually HELPS us yet? :) )

John McCain goes to bat for Hillary

John McCain dug deep and found his clichd maverick side on the Senate floor today, taking the microphone (so to speak) to call for Hillary Clinton to be confirmed this afternoon by unanimous consent rather than by a time-consuming roll call vote. He had, reportedly, spoken to Texas Sen. John Cornyn (the architect of today's vote, which is designed to embarrass Hillary -- and, by extension -- Bill Clinton).

This isn't the first time that John McCain has praised Hillary. During the primaries last year, they were rarely seen trading barbs, and he famously said of her:

Sen. Clinton has earned great respect for her tenacity and courage. The media often overlooked how compassionately she spoke to the concerns and dreams of millions of Americans, and she deserves a lot more appreciation than she sometimes received. "As the father of three daughters, I owe her a debt for inspiring millions of women to believe there is no opportunity in this great country beyond their reach. I am proud to call her my friend."
When she conceded the primary to Obama, McCain's top blogger wrote a paean to her and, after Sarah Palin joined the ticket, there were many, many references to Hillary (and her greatness) from the Republican side of the race. So, maybe it's not that maverick-y after all... but what about McCain ever really was?

http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/01/21/john_...

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:32 PM
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1. Good that Barack has been reaching out
:thumbsup:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:34 PM
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3. Exactly. Like it or not, we will need at least 1-2 reasonable Rethugs to work with us.
Otherwise complete gridlock is almost inevitable.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:34 PM
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2. I'll say it again...
As far as Republicans go, I rather like McCain. I think he's a decent guy at heart, with his head in the right place (As far as Republicans go, anyway). The Primary brings out the shitty side of everyone... But I also think picking Palin was a calculated failure move on his part - I got the definite impression that he did not want to be president, and so picked the worst possible running mate and spent the entire runup to the election acting like a douche just for the fun of seeing how far the media would be willing to cover for him.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:49 AM
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22. Agreed.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 04:52 AM by Dulcinea
I also like McCain as far as Repubs go, and I wholeheartedly agree w/ his statement about Hillary inspiring girls & women:

I owe her a debt for inspiring millions of women to believe there is no opportunity in this great country beyond their reach.

Thanks to her presidential run, my daughters now believe they can be president one day!
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:35 PM
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4. I just heard him on MSNBC. He's still whistliing.
He also sounded a bit uncomfortable to my untrained ear.

Hmmmmmmmm.....
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:35 PM
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5. The confirmation discussion/vote is on C-SPAN 2 right now. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:17 PM
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13. It's on my local New York News
channel, too :)
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:39 PM
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6. Senator Spector was also very kind
He just finished giving her a glowing endorsement for the position and criticized the outgoing administration for their lack of diplomacy. Senators Snowe & Collins both gave her a big thumbs up earlier today. I think you will find plenty of Republicans in her corner. She deserves it.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:40 PM
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7. He and the Big Dawg were talking animatedly yesterday right before the
luncheon...maybe about this? Anyway, good that he's taking this stand against this partisan crap early, and I think even sincerely.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:57 PM
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8. Obama's smoozing paid off. Thanks John McCain.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:50 AM
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20. Not really, Hillary and McCain have been friends for years.
Ditto Bill.

;-)
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:02 PM
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9. I expect more of this from McCain over the next 4 years
Disagree with him or not, McCain has way more class and sense than he showed in his campaign. I think he will endeavor to shape his legacy as a anti-dirty politics politician by calling out his own party on tactical bullshit.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:34 PM
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19. I think McCain puts Country in front of Party
The same can't be said of too many other Republicans. He will be a thorn in the side to both parties for the next four years partially due to the fact that the Democrats know that he is one that can be persuaded. Sometimes he will piss us off, sometimes he will be a great help.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:11 PM
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10. I got it before but good to
see some returns. It only makes logic sense anyway when you think about life.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:13 PM
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11. Apparently some R's want their "I voted against Hillary" street cred /nt
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:13 PM
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12. good
McCain needs to redeem himself after that joke of a campaign.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:24 PM
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16. He's seen the light, I think. After losing all those formerly R states in the election
he waw the Repubs era fading away. The man is old and wants to redeem his legacy. He sees that what Cornyn is doing is spiteful and destructive to the country. I don't think he gives a shit what Cornyn thinks of him. He just wants this crap to STOP.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:26 PM
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17. as the poster said below
McCain and Hillary are friends, so this doesn't exactly surprise me. He voted against releasing the rest of the TARP money to Obama the other day, I'll be interested to see what else he will help Obama on...I love that Rahm sat next to cindy McCain yesterday at the lunch, heh.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:21 PM
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14. McCain & Hillary are long-time buddies.
She went to bat for him during the primaries ("John McCain has a lifetime of experience to be commander in chief") and he's returning the favor. It has little to do with Obama or his olive branches IMO.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:21 PM
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15. Hillary and McCain have been friendly opposition for years
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 03:21 PM by LostinVA
By all accounts, they both respect and like each other.

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Okie4Obama Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:33 PM
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18. Cornyn is proving to be a bigger ass than my own senator, Dr. Coburn.
...and that's hard to do. First Secretary of State Clinton, now he's trying to hold up future AG Holder.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:56 AM
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21. I heard him and he was quite passionate about it.
Nice speeches also from Sens. Graham, Kerry, Snow and a particularly warm speech from Sen. Collins who traveled with Hillary to the Middle East. It was a bipartisan defense of Hillary. She's well liked and respected in the senate and has worked well with her colleagues from both sides of the aisle. In some respects I hate seeing her leave the senate.

:-)
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:58 AM
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23. So now you are going to prove torture McCain did this because of Warren?
Didn't think so.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:07 AM
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24. "Friend goes to bat for friend"
Duh.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:32 AM
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25. Reading many of the comments - I think that FAR too much credit is given here to McCain
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 07:40 AM by karynnj
The fact is that HRC is likely as acceptable a SOS nominee as Obama could name for McCain. On foreign policy, she is one of these most conservative Democrats - http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/03/mirror_mi... In addition, his own standing is enhanced by being a moderate and working with Obama. It is things like this and the media that have already gone a huge way to repairing his reputation after his awful campaign. In addition, HRC is a Senator and it is very rare for the Senate not to confirm one of their own. Throw in that HRC and McCain have been on committees - and even Armed Services trips together - and are really friends - this is a no brainer. (Also remember that HRC spent weeks saying "McCain was qualified to be CIC on the first day" - a nice present from the opposite party.)

Once Cornyn set out to have a roll call vote - it created time to speak on this. What I wonder is whether it was Kerry, who as chair of SFRC managed the time on the "AYE" side, who reached out to McCain, Specter and Cochran (!!) to get them to speak - or whether they independently came to him. (My guess is that given that there were at least those 3 Republicans - speaking on our time - that it was likely the chair that sought out Republicans to turn Cornyn's action into an opportunity to get a very nice show of bipartisan - from Republicans who liked HRC.)

Back to McCain. Before Bush, he did very often work with Democrats. What I hope this is a signal for is that he will vote more as he did in the 1990s than the 2000s. This will still make him a conservative on many issues - but it won't be the lockstep voting of the last 8 years - when he most assuredly did NOT put country over party. A bigger signal than these speeches - for a nomination which really had NO chance of failing, was the 72 and 74 votes last week.

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:35 AM
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26. yep
Call me when a McCain vote actually comes in handy.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:37 AM
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27. Finally Mac is back to being himself. Please try not to sell out your soul again John.
It was rather disturbing last time. He is a schmuck but at least he is one we can work with.
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