I'm going out on a limb: I wish Gore fought as hard in 2000 as Coleman is now

[Rabrrrrrr]

There. I said it.

[AtomicKitten]

1. He fought it all the way to the Supreme Court. The next step was anarchy. n/t

[Alexander]

2. Exactly. What did the OP expect him to do, start riots?

The people who say "Gore should have fought harder" obviously didn't think things through.

[Captain Hilts]

6. But people did not fight for him. We got left in the dust.

THIS is why I was thrilled to see Obama and Clinton go at it. It proved to me that Florida 2000 wasn't going to happen again. They would have fought for it. Others would have fought for them. And, if they thought they were going to lose, they would have cheated, just as Republicans do.

[DaveinMD]

12. Gore's mistake

was not asking for a total statewide recount immediately.

[LisaM]

20. Because he couldn't, under Florida State Law.

The law did not allow him to originally request a statewide recount. It had to be done county by county. They chose four counties which they believed would show that the first results were inaccurate (and, had many obvious votes for Gore been allowed, they would have). Gore DID call for a statewide recount on television, after initially asking for a four-county recount, but Bush rejected that.


"Nor was there any guarantee that Gore could have succeeded in getting a statewide recount. Florida law provided no mechanism to ask for a statewide recount, only county-by-county recounts. And although he did at one point call on Bush to join him in asking for a statewide recount, it was with the condition that Bush renounce all further legal action. Bush dismissed the offer, calling it a public relations gesture by his opponent, and Gore never took any further steps toward that goal."

[tblue]

3. No limb needed. I've been saying that for 8 years.

It wasn't PC to fight to the teeth. This is what it looks like, Dems! Stop being so freaking malleable.

How long do you think it would have taken the Repubs to seat Franken & Burriss (if they were Repubs and Repubs had the majority)?

[ProSense]

4. I wish Coleman would go away.

I'll get my wish soon.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

5. He took it as far as he was able to and I admire him for it.

I wish Kerry had fought as hard to reveal and fight election fraud and claim his rightful victory. He was in a position to file some suits particularly in Ohio and get some real discovery going when it might have meant something.

[karynnj]

22. There is STILL no proof that Kerry actually won Ohio

even though there has been a Democratic Secretary of State for 2 years. The same people who told Gore to contest it, told Kerry the numbers weren't there.

The suits in Ohio were joined by K/E and the recount did not come close - just as K/E said - you can't make up over 100,000 votes in a recount. As to fraud, they had no evidence that they could base a claim on - and there was certainly nothing that could have been contested in teh 2 month window before the election had to be certified. Even if the election was declared tainted - the likely resolution would have been for the Ohio legislature (Rep) to select the delegates.

Here - like in 2000 FL - the difference was a few hundred either way - with ambiguous ballots to recount and reassign. The numbers were such either could have won. The difference between a few hundred and 100,000 plus is major.

[MarjorieG]

7. After the Supremes gave power to the states, 2004 rested with Blackwell & GOP.

We still don't have the proof that Connell could have provided.

[John Q. Citizen]

8. what is Coleman doing that you think Gore didn't do?

[Tatiana]

9. I am glad Franken fought as hard as he did. And that's why he'll be Senator and not Coleman. n/t

[Cha]

10. Exactly! Franken didn't up

and that's why we have him. Gore did fight all the to the Supreme Court.

But, we should have been in the streets.

[MarjorieG]

11. MN has paper ballots and decent procedure. Not so with all states.

[Tatiana]

17. This is a good point. MN has a very clean elections process.

Probably one of the fairest and best in the nation.

[Stevepol]

13. K&R!!

[PurityOfEssence]

14. If he had constested the ENTIRE STATE, I don't see how he could have lost

Once he picked only four counties (trying to be a nice fellow) it was easy to paint him as trying to pull a fast one. In the full light of day, including the entire state, that couldn't have been the case. Letting Lieberman be gracious about overseas votes wasn't brilliant, either, nor were many steps along the way.

Imagine the world today had he stuck to his guns.

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. That's exactly it - Gore avoided being a Republican-style pitbull asshole,

and it cost him.

Republicans only know one mode - total warfare. Even in peaceful stuff, they pretty devolve immediately to total warfare. It's their default, and only, state. I don't even think they have an "off" button.

Trying to be "nice" when up against Repukes is like cutting off your dick so the pitbull doesn't have to bite it off.

[NRaleighLiberal]

15. If Recount (the movie) was even close to the truth, problem was beyond Gore -

Warren Christopher played a very weak hand early on. Baker the Repubs simply ate the Gore team's lunch.

[Rebubula]

18. Meh...

...I blame Clinton for not stepping down or not working harder for Gore.

Call me a tin-foiler - but I truly believe that the Clinton's did not want Gore in there.

[Occam Bandage]

19. I'd say I wish he had fought as hard as Franken is now. nt

[dsc]

21. He wasn't able to constest the whole state at once

Florida law was crystal clear on this point. Gore could only ask for a recount on a county by county basis if the county could by itself change the results.

[Bake]

23. I wish Kerry fought as hard in 2004 as Coleman is now.

There. I said it.

(stalker in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...)

Bake

[applegrove]

24. I'm sure Gore wishes that too. But the neocons came out of nowhere with

their relentless, relentlessness.

[leftofthedial]

25. or I wish Kerry fought as hard in 2004

[grantcart]

26. I hope that Coleman continues to fight fight fight

and then cries like a little baby girl in front of the cameras.


Its one thing to fight on reasonable grounds. Its another to try and invent issues to litigate on.


I hope that Coleman completely destroys his public face so that the only restaurant food he can get is the drive thru.