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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:23 AM
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anyone know what language this is?and what it says?

im clicking around trying to watch movies for free
i go to a link for what i want to see and its whatever language this is
made me go:spray:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:23 AM
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1. It's Russian, but no idea what it says. n/t
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:25 AM
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2. i thought it was some kind
of cyrilic (spelling?) but didnt know where from
i thought turkey myself
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Foolacious Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:35 AM
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43. Turkish uses a slightly modified Latin alphabet,
like English.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:27 AM
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3. Heh, the Cold War Freepers are going to lurve that!
But what the hell, the world needs more survivalist Red Dawn fan fic. :P
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:29 AM
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4. it looks like whatever it says
they like him
or maybe its about her
those ruskies know hot
oooooooo i better not find out they have been breathing their vodka infused breath on our first lady!
god damn it palin here putin is raising 2 of his heads and you dont say a word!
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:31 AM
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5. The last two words are
"Barack Obama".

Maybe the rest of it says "Happy New Year".
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:33 AM
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7. its a banner for like the russian
equivelant of people or more likely cosmo
i wonder if the have a story
interesting to see the russian take on the whole thing
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 05:11 AM
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10. here's the link to the magazine
http://www.woman.ru/

I don't see any story on the Obamas though. Drat.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:32 AM
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6. ok i went to woman.ru the
link thats a banner for
still cant tell what the hell they are talking about
alphabet looks like the vodka was gone when they made it
i think its like people or maybe cosmo for russian women
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:53 AM
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8. I went to the website and can't find banner
but, I hit translate and it translated the home page.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:54 AM
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9. of women.ru?
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 03:54 AM by swampg8r
what was it about and how did you do that?
the banner was on a site that had movie links
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:28 AM
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42. I googled woman ru and this was the top link
Then on the right side google gives you the option "Translate this page". I clicked on it.
Uusally the results aren't so great as I've done it for Italian and it was a lot of gibberish.
But this translated fairly well. Except the banner remained untranslated.

Looks like a woman's mag or something.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.woman.ru/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwoman%2Bru%26hl%3Den
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:16 AM
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11. Something like ..

Better nations of women of Barack Obama. Not a good translation, but I think those are the words.
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pinqy Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:52 AM
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13. Where you went wrong...
"Luchshie" is the superlative plural, so it's "the best" not "better" (luchshe)
I think you confused "naryad" with "narod," (people/nation).
And "zheni" in this case is the genitive, not the plural. "Zhena" hasn't had the generic meaning of "woman" for a long time...now it simply means "wife."
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:46 AM
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15. Well there you go..

..I need to brush up on my Russian!
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pinqy Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:44 AM
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12. It most likely means:
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 07:45 AM by pinqy
"The best outfits of the wife of Barack Obama."

Naryad (second word in the sentence) does have an alternate meaning of "assignment/commission/order" and has a military meaning of "detachement." But the grammar seems wrong to me if they were talking about positions or roles for her. It's more likely, given the nature of the website, to be about her clothes.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:50 AM
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16. Russian nouns have cases?
That's interesting. How many do they use do you know?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:10 AM
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20. Nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, instrumental, locative.
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 11:13 AM by JenniferZ
Six in all.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:36 AM
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25. Thanks, that's a very classical arrangement.
I don't know much about Russian but since I've never seen it grouped with languages descending from Latin I'm guessing the noun cases came from Greek?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:40 AM
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26. Yes, as does the alphabet. :)
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:01 PM
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38. It's an Indo-European language.
It's not descended from Latin and, besides some words, didn't borrow from Greek. It's immediate mother tongue was a sister of Latin's and Greek's. "Common Slavic" is how it's usually put, but the only written evidence we have is after Common Slavic was disintegrating (and that's called Old Church Slavic, since it shows up almost entirely for Bible translations and sermons).

You're seeing a family resemblance, no more, but the case endings have changed a bit (mostly, though, you can trace them back to a time when they were the same).

In addition to the usual 6 cases, with two numbers and three genders (so singular/plural, masculine/feminine/neuter), they have a few marginal cases.

The nominative can function in a few roles as accusative; some have tried to say it's a second accusative.

There's a genitive that's partitive (meaning "some" or "part of"--as in, "Pour me some tea", where "tea" isn't the usual accusative but partitive). Then there's this quirky genitive that occurs with small numbers (2, 3, 4) or with non-syllabic prepositions (such as s 'with'). It's like the usual genitive, but the stress moves.

For most nouns, the locative and prepositional are the same (v shkole 'in school', o shkole 'about school') but for some nouns there's a difference (o pole 'about the floor', na polu 'on the floor').

There's the vocative, which isn't really a case (since cases are sentence roles, and vocative says, "Hey, I'm talking to you"). Tanya becomes Tan', for instance, and "Debbi" would become "Deb'".

So, yeah, six cases, with a huge dollop of additional weirdness.
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kywildcat Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:19 AM
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14. babblefish
go to www.babblefish.com, choose translation, then free translation. Choose one of the online translators.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:54 AM
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17. Only if swampie has a cyrillic keyboard.
Those characters are embedded in the banner, he can't copy and paste them.

He could copy and paste text from the page that has the banner, though.
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kywildcat Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:52 PM
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34. Seriously! I had no idea-I've copies and pasted arabic text
farsi and sanskrit but nothing russian. I can't remember if I've copied from a banner though.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:23 PM
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36. The Russian characters copied and pasted just fine...
once I had a site to copy from, then using the website translation feature at bablefish, (thanks for your suggestion) but from a banner, nope... :hi:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woman.ru%2Ffashion%2Fmedley3%2Farticle%2F50202&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:05 AM
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18. "The best dresses of the wife of Barack Obama."
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 11:11 AM by JenniferZ
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:09 AM
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19. Here is something... Michelle is the new "star of mode" (fashion)
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 11:11 AM by NYC_SKP
It seems the Russians are fascinated with the Obamas.

http://www.woman.ru/fashion/medley3/article/50202/?startLeaflet=0&flagScroll=true

Translation:

"M for the eyes increasingly more frequently now call the new star of mode. A feeling of style and the refined details of 44- summer the husbands 44- GO of the President of America the barracks Of draw people not less than its political views."

Page translation link (includes translated comments by site visitors):

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woman.ru%2Ffashion%2Fmedley3%2Farticle%2F50202&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:25 AM
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21. The best outfits of Barack Obama's wife. She's got a name, dumbasses!
"Women.ru," nakhui.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:27 AM
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22. I'm going with dresses rather than outfits, as a play on Best Dressed.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:30 AM
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23. The play being in English, yes? Because it wouldn't be evident in Russian.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:35 AM
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24. Yes. And ONLY since Michelle was named best dressed by some other magazine
before this issue. If it were 1980, I wouldn't think it might be a play on words. But now, yes I do think it is.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:52 AM
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30. But why introduce an element that's a play only in English?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:18 PM
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33. Only because the interplay of hte 2 languages has changed so much
over the past 20 years. I think Russian media is playing to an audience that is very aware of the nuances of English, and especially American English, just as they are very aware of world events. Even the trivia of who was selected as best dressed. And of course, Michelle was always in dresses for major events. So, it's that awareness of language and world affairs that led me to the play on words.

The other thing is that I really don't like the word outfit very much. Makes me think of outfitter, which is usually specific to an activity like hiking or camping or something. Just my personal quirk.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:04 PM
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39. They could just say plat'ya, if they wanted to be specific.
'Outfits' does fine.
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pinqy Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:40 AM
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27. Style choice
I went with "outfit" because while naryad tranlates as "dress" it's in the sense of attire, rather than dresses. Yours does work, as a play on words in English, but if some of the outfits are not dresses, it might seem odd.

But of course it's a cardinal rule that no translator agrees with any other translator's translation. ;)
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:49 AM
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29. And it's probably a fairly obscure name in Russia
If more than a tiny tiny fraction of DUers could say who Vladimir Putin's wife was without Google I'd be astonished.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:53 AM
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31. Yeah, but if the article is about her, and she's shown with Barack, and it says her first and last
name, I think the average Russian would catch on.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:14 PM
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40. Yeah, but it's indeclinable, I think.
And since she's not as notorious, you go with what gets people's attention.

Mishel' Obama. Would they have the genitive be Mishel' or Misheli, and would they say 'Obamy'? I suspect it would come out mixed ('Obama' looks feminine, so it should be declinable.) Off to Yandex.

Yandex.ru sent me to the obvious place--Wikipedia. (Sorry, Wiki's in Russian, too.) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0

Брат Мишель — Крейг Робинсон: Brat Mishel' -- Kreig Robinson "Michelle's brother is Craig Robinson". So they don't decline "Mishel'", which is a dead giveaway that it's a woman's name (since it looks like a man's name, and if the owner of the name were male it would decline just fine--brat Mishelya "Michel's brother"; Michelle is the feminine form of Michel).

В американской прессе Мишель Обаму часто сравнивают с Жаклин Кеннеди. Here they say 'Mishel' Obamu', accusative, so they do decline her last name.

So the banner would read, Luchshie naryady Mishel' Obamy. Ok, but it doesn't attract attention in the same way. And it could be Obama's kid or mother, for all they know.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:41 AM
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28. It says "Barack Obama Can Increase Your Penis Size".
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:56 AM
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32. finally
we have a president who is going to make things better!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:06 PM
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35. It's Russian.
Russian e-mails arrive in my in-box sometimes - I suppose it's because, as an Alaskan, I can see Russia from my house.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:59 PM
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37. LOL!! . . . . . . . . . n/t
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:19 PM
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41. Sadly, we are on Winter break...
I have a Russian chemistry/biology/physics instrructor up at the college, a brilliant woman that was an OB/Gyn MD in Russia. She left, went to Germany, then France...worked on a Nobel winning team in Chemistry, (naturally, the team did all of the work, and the "name" got all of the recognition).

I have saved this, but not much I can do until 12Jan...:(

FWIW, she has told me that the only people in Russia that look a little tepid to Obama's being elected PotUS, are the "Old Guard". She's a Progressive Liberal, and feels that Obama will be a great asset to this nation in both domestic and foreign policies. She became a citizen some 5 years ago, and was pruod to cast a ballot for Obama!...:D
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:37 AM
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44. Imagine posting this on Free Republic. Compare and contrast the responses here and there.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:58 AM
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45. Obambi!
:spray:
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